32 bit apps on a 64 bit OS???

Galaites07 wrote:oops nakarating na pala kung saan tong 32bit max sa 64OS.

-to all, info lang that this is my unsolicited advice from one of my thread to a certain memeber.

-only question is do you need more than 3.3 gig assign to your max rendering or do you have more than 3.3 gig intstalled physical ram on your 64 bit OS machine. ---of course I do need more than 3.3 gigs, I'll take a million please, if I could have them. Why? To keep abreast with the newest tech coming out. Is anyone still rendering with their pentium2's & 32 mb's of ram? Sure I could dish out a few with my 3.3's. Imagine what 12 could do for me. More production equals more profits, I don't think anybody could argue with that. Look around you, everyone's crying that their renders suck because "ito lang kasi nakayanan ng rig ko low settings lang mahina kasi rig ko"... Sure there are workarounds, but 12gigs is 12gigs man... Don't tell me you don't want it... Now supposing you have your 12gigs whatcha gonna do with it; watch it sit in your table while using your 32bit app on a 64 bit program? Your 32bit app will never recognize the extra 9 or so gigs wasting on your unit... Question answered?... Without being cryptic about it?...

-of course MR. Bill gates will not discuss the great use of 32 bit software installed on a 64 bit because they will not be able to sell 64 bit programes they created.---but you yourself said that it's great to install 32bit apps on a 64bit OS because by jeeliweekers, you can multitask!!! So everyone grab your copy of the 64bit OS because hey! you can supermultitask on this with just your 32bit apps!!! What a great deal huh!!! You don't have to buy 64 bit software just use your existing 32 bit apps!!! That would be Gates' selling pitch because he'd be targeting the 64bit AND the 32bit crowd. Most 32bit apps work on 64 anyways. And, if as you say Gates won't discuss it, its a hacker community out there, nothing is sacred to these guys they'll find out even BEFORE an app is released. And thanks to the internet, you'll find out too... So bye-bye "top secret"...

- this comment I made indicating (by experience) if you like to try, try if not leave it. There is no harm in installing 32 bit/64 bit as we mostly install un-authorize copy(or its just me).---the harm comes when the advised listens & it impedes their production... specially when the advise itself goes contrary to popular & logical explanation... Perhaps your comment would've been more use on other sites where they favor multitasking from being able to produce quality renderings in the least time possible so they can go on to the next render which is the norm on this site... Upside is, well, now you can farmville all you want for the rest of the day. Me, I'd rather hone my skills...

- be observant of how much ram does your rendering is taking and decide later.---enlighten me then; which will help me produce more: 3.3gigs or 12 gigs?...

-great post sir cloud---and great answer sir galaites; but still wanting...

edosayla wrote:Sir regarding naman sa RAM it doesn't really have anything to do with your rendering speed besides the compiling of your scene just before the actual "Rendering" process. if you look at Render Farms, what they are comprised of are a series of Servers with multiple processors in each. The more processing power you have, the faster your computer will render.

we just need to use the 64bit max para lng po ma access natin ng full ang resources natin 4GB , 6GB or 12GB .. if your talking about multitasking again don't get me wrong it all depends on the processor speed .. if your using a pentium D processor for example vs XEON processor of course iba ang masasabi mong multitask..

32 bit softwares are design for 32 bit operating system but it can be run also on 64bit , but i would suggest using 64bit software on 64bit OS .. to get its full potential .. Hope naka help ...

Galaites07 wrote:irregardsless of processors speed, which is very true. Still the point of using 3.3 gig ram on rendering on max remains unanswered (what kind of scene would that be).

torvicz wrote:dude galaites, good for you.

I don't know but maybe you could tell us something about the scenes you've handled so we could at least know why you don't need to have more than 3gig of RAM. please, maybe you know some way that we could do the same on 32 bit. This could be helpful if you may...

Galaites07 wrote:sir di ako naguguluhan sa sinasabi mong 4 gig( I say 3.3 gig).

Just for clarification I already rendered a city (MUDON city alam mo ciguro iyon)

anyways, ang sinasabi ko lang eh( if you are following my comments)
its about how much ram u need and we are not talking 32bit machine here. its about 32bit max run on 64 bit OS pala.

ung nga its all depends on scene diba( case to case basis).

I say 4 gig physical ram, 32 bit max and 64 bit OS. If you need more decide later.