Building setback??

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TGIS po mga master.. ask ko lang po kung niimplement paba ung building setback sa building code sa mga common sa residential area? pasincya po mga master d kasi ako arki kaya tanung lang ako ng tanung dito. salamat po

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:

arlodesign wrote:... the arcading system of buildings, projections over the side walk is allowed....

Ano yung arcading system bro? And you can project over the sidewalk?

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Arcading is the building projection over public streets and/or alleys, yan po sir..

sa tingin mo, ano kaya ang ibig sabihin ng: a dwelling unit INCLUDING ANY STRUCTURE? does it only refer to living spaces or ANY STRUCTURE (whether living space or for design purpose lang)? ang intindi ko kasi sa description is kahit anong structure na nakadikit sa main building.

mokong wrote:

arlodesign wrote:

mokong wrote:A setback will be considered as sidewalk where there is no obstraction.. medyo hindi rin ito na elaborate sa book tong setback na ito.. RQUI if you have copy of the book, kindly find that illustration..

Censya na po sir, as clarification, setback cannot be considered as sidewalk because setback is still part of the private property that can only be part of public use thru eminent domain but to be paid by the government and sidewalk is for a government or public usage that doesn't need to be paid off in any means.an imho....thank you

Yeah you're right but in some other places (kagaya dito sa amin) yung setback ay ginagawa na rin nilang sidewalk.. As I remember noong nasa eng'g pa ako sa city may tinibag kami na pader sa isang sikat na restaurant sa amin.. yung pader na iyon ay part pa ng kanilang property... tinibag namin hanggang sa 3meters na setback dahil iyon ang gagawin naming sidewalk para through and throung yung passage way ng mga tao..

Sa awa ng Dios kinasuhan kami umabot sa Ombudsman.. hehe.. Pero using the setback as sidewalk pa rin ang nanaig na dismiss yung kaso... my power parin ang government na ipatupad yung setback gawing sidewalk because in some places kasi maliit lang yung sidewalk kaya kinakaylangan na pati yung setback sinasama as sidewalk. Kahit na iyan nakasaad sa NBCP but there are some other regulations pa kasi pa kasi like city ordinance at sa City Planning Dev. Office.

Sir, absolutely you are right also for what you've done for demolishing such kind of establishment because as a rule the government has the authority to convert or use any private property for the benefits of public use which will run under the eminent domain of the government but of coarse with corresponding value and on legal arrangement between the owner and the gov't...hope it helps

redbull wrote:sa tingin mo, ano kaya ang ibig sabihin ng: a dwelling unit INCLUDING ANY STRUCTURE? does it only refer to living spaces or ANY STRUCTURE (whether living space or for design purpose lang)? ang intindi ko kasi sa description is kahit anong structure na nakadikit sa main building.

Sir,here's an idea, dwelling unit or structure refers to the whole unit and not as a part only(neither any of that but not as a party off)...hope it helps

redbull wrote:sa tingin mo, ano kaya ang ibig sabihin ng: a dwelling unit INCLUDING ANY STRUCTURE? does it only refer to living spaces or ANY STRUCTURE (whether living space or for design purpose lang)? ang intindi ko kasi sa description is kahit anong structure na nakadikit sa main building.

Take note sir the definition of setback, it is the distance from the property line perpendicular to the outermost surface of the wall(not the column)directly stands into the ground. and regarding to the column you've been projecting, it is best to have it leveled and properly represented in the plan if it is part of the wall for design purposse(as you've mentioned) or to serve as structural component otherwise it could be a reference for setback also...

^arlodesign, ano kaya ang mga instances na ang measurement ng setback is from the property line to the edge of the column/post (gusto ko lang maintindihan kung bakit kailangan pa isama sa definition sa construction guidelines ng village yun words na column at "any projection" eh kung ang magiging basihan naman pala lagi ay yun outermost surface of the wall that directly stands into the ground.

arlodesign wrote:

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:

arlodesign wrote:... the arcading system of buildings, projections over the side walk is allowed....

Ano yung arcading system bro? And you can project over the sidewalk?

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Arcading is the building projection over public streets and/or alleys, yan po sir..

Thanks Arlo. So how would this relate to the lot being discussed.


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oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:

arlodesign wrote:

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:

arlodesign wrote:... the arcading system of buildings, projections over the side walk is allowed....

Ano yung arcading system bro? And you can project over the sidewalk?

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Arcading is the building projection over public streets and/or alleys, yan po sir..

Thanks Arlo. So how would this relate to the lot being discussed.


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Sir it is just a query of somebody here in CGp..thanks

redbull wrote:^arlodesign, ano kaya ang mga instances na ang measurement ng setback is from the property line to the edge of the column/post (gusto ko lang maintindihan kung bakit kailangan pa isama sa definition sa construction guidelines ng village yun words na column at "any projection" eh kung ang magiging basihan naman pala lagi ay yun outermost surface of the wall that directly stands into the ground.

Sir as you cleary implies "construction guidelines ng village", it is no longer based on the PD1096 instead it is a personalized guidelines sir...

All villages should follow all the rules. Usually mas strict ang guidelines ng mga villages than the city government.

If there's a village na hindi sumusunod sa guidelines ng city or ng code. Kailangan maimbestigahan yan.

bokkins wrote:All villages should follow all the rules. Usually mas strict ang guidelines ng mga villages than the city government.

If there's a village na hindi sumusunod sa guidelines ng city or ng code. Kailangan maimbestigahan yan.

Exactly sir boks...

arlodesign wrote:

redbull wrote:^arlodesign, ano kaya ang mga instances na ang measurement ng setback is from the property line to the edge of the column/post (gusto ko lang maintindihan kung bakit kailangan pa isama sa definition sa construction guidelines ng village yun words na column at "any projection" eh kung ang magiging basihan naman pala lagi ay yun outermost surface of the wall that directly stands into the ground.

Sir as you cleary implies "construction guidelines ng village", it is no longer based on the PD1096 instead it is a personalized guidelines sir...

balik tayo sa una kong post na kung saan gusto ko malaman yun interpretasyon ng sinulat ko. base dun sa nakasulat na guideline, ang measurement ba ng setback ay from the property line to the outer edge of the bay window (regardless kung nasa ground itong bay window na ito or hindi)? ano ang pagkakaintindi nyo? hindi ko tinatanong kung ano ang nakasulat sa PD1096. ang gusto ko malaman ay yun interpretasyon ng una kong sinulat.

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I would consider a bay window as an allowable encroachment to the required setback. I'm sure there is a rule on this. Which means the setback is measured from the property to the outer face of the "main" wall.

Kung column ang basehan, pwede kong ipasok ng 1 metre ang column and have my wall extend beyond the columns. Mukhang magkakaproblema tayo kapag ganun.


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^thanks orange.n.green. in what instance kaya ang setback will be measured from the property line to the WINDOW? why even include the word "window" in the guidelines IF the basis will always be the main/finished wall? sa guidelines, meron word na ginamit na "any projection." if the wall will always be the basis, bakit kailangan pang isama yun words na "any projection?" ang bay window ba, technically speaking, hindi part ng dwelling unit?

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Well, if it goes beyond the allowable, I suppose...

You're questions should be shot at whoever authored the guidelines you are referring to. No rules should contradict what is written on the NBC.

Well, a bay window is part of the dwelling but it could go beyond the setback pero limited lang. There must be a rule on this. I'll try to find out.

Kung accessory structure like carports ay ina-allow na mag-extend beyond the setback, bay window pa kaya.

But then... I could be wrong.

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the best person to answer your questions is the person who wrote the NAtional Building Code, anyway, talagang maguguluhan ka sa pag interpret, for example, pinapayagan nila ang carport and porch with columns beyond the setback because hindi sila kasama sa dwelling unit, pero kung tutuusin mo "projection" sila di ba?

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Construction guidelines ng CITTADELLA EXEC. VILLAGE:

"Each bay window shall not exceed a protrusion of 0.50-meter width and 3.0 meter length from the house perimeter."

- ww.cittadella.asia/dload/constr.doc

Must be based on PD 1096...


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whey09 wrote:the best person to answer your questions is the person who wrote the NAtional Building Code, anyway, talagang maguguluhan ka sa pag interpret, for example, pinapayagan nila ang carport and porch with columns beyond the setback because hindi sila kasama sa dwelling unit, pero kung tutuusin mo "projection" sila di ba?

The roof eaves are considered projections, as well.

Pinapagulo lang ng village guidelines na yan ang rules e.

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actually mas maselan pa nga ang mga guidelines ng mga ibang exclusive subd. kesa sa munisipyo mismo, there is one time kulang lang ng 1mm yung dimension ko sa setback, so they asked me to change the plans, kaya kapag approved na ng subd. ang mga plans, sigurado approved na rin ito sa munisipyo,

actually, dun sa construction guidelines ng subdivision, meron separate provision for the roofs/eaves. walang gray area sa pag-interpret pagdating sa roofs/eaves. klarong-klaro siya. even sa carport, meron din provision na malinaw.

ang may gray area is the setback measurement "from the property line to the nearest finished wall/window or column or any projection from the said wall/window or column"...ito yun nakasulat sa guidelines. ang argument ng iba is hindi dapat kasama ang bay window kasi ang pinag-uusapan dito ay ang dwelling unit. ang iba naman, ang argument is ANY PROJECTION, kasi kung babasahin mo ang buong paragraph sa guidelines, ito ang nakalagay: A Dwelling Unit including any structure constructed or installed as a component thereof, such as but not limited to, maid's quarters, gazebos, covered terraces AND/OR PARTS THEREOF, must be constructed at a distance of not less than 4 meters on all sides...ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng "parts thereof?" para sa akin, "parts thereof" could include ANY permanent structure that is attached to the main dwelling unit whether pang-arte lang siya or may function (like columns/posts that support something). experts, ano sa tingin nyo ang interpretation nito kung ang basis lang natin is the guidelines at hindi yun pd1096 (sa tingin ko mas-strict pa nga yun subdivision kesa sa pd1096).

ano ba ang setback restrictions for residential homes na nakalagay sa pd1096?

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Kung walang nakalagay na provision regarding sa bay window then you should consult PD 1096.

The subdivision construction guidelines or rules are based on 1096, so it should not contradict nor supercede any provisions of the building code.

Your interpretation appears to be correct but there are exemptions and other conditions provided for in the NBC that must be considered also.


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i am assuming that none of the subdivision guidelines contradict/supersede pd 1096 kasi sa setback requirements pa lang ng subdivision, 4 meters na. kung mas-strict na yun sa subdivision, i don't think there is a need to consult with the NBC to check for any exemptions. i don't see any instance when the subdivision guidelines will contradict the NBC the mere fact that the subdivision has a larger setback requirement. also, the residents cannot point out na mas-masusunod ang NBC kasi ang sabi sa akin ng isang architect before, ang laging masusunod ay yun guidelines with the more stringent restrictions. kung sa subdivision pa lang, considered a violation na yun ginawa ng resident, hindi pwede sabihin ng resident na sa NBC ganito lang ka liit ang setback requirements. what will always prevail is the more stringent restriction.

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Sorry to contradict you pero malamang ang sinasabi ng Architect na yun sa 'yo before is between laws, i.e. NBC vs. Fire Code of the Philippines. Hindi pwedeng may sariling law ang isang subdivision. Congress lang ang pwedeng gumawa nun.

Mas masusunod ang "National" Building Code against a mere subdivision rule. Kung Law vs. Law, yes, I will agree with you but this is not the case.


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Unless I waive my rights.... For type R1 residences, the table below says I can build my house up to 2 metres from the property line on the sides and back and up to 4.5 metres from the property line at the front. Sorry but no subdivision rules can overrule this.






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hindi tayo nagkaintindihan. this is what i am trying to point out: a resident in our subdivision cannot insist that he can build his house with ONLY A 2 METER SETBACK on the sides and the rear portion of his lot because 2 meters is the minimum requirement of the NBC or pd 1096. the resident cannot use this argument. the minimum requirement of the subdivison is 4 meters (for the sides and rear); clearly, a lot bigger than the requirement of NBC or pd 1096. if the resident builds his house following only the 2 meter setback (sides and rear), the subdivision association can file a case against him. marami ng cases na ganyan. the rule is this: the more stringent (or stricter) requirements prevail.

if on the other hand, the subdivision only has a 1 meter setback requirement, NBC/pd1096 will prevail over the requirement of the subdivision on the setbacks. most licensed real estate brokers would know about this ruling.

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Well, if that is what you think is right, it's up to you.

My position is, a mere subdivision rule cannot supercede a law which guarantees both the right of the lot owner and the state.

"the rule is this: the more stringent (or stricter) requirements prevail."

This is only applicable if we are comparing like for like - Law vs. another Law. Example: Fire Code of the Philippines Vs. National Building Code. You cannot compare a Law created by Congress and signed by the President of the Philippines to a rule created by subdivision homeowners.

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