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Post by ARNEL_PRO Fri May 14, 2010 8:43 am

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TGIS po mga master.. ask ko lang po kung niimplement paba ung building setback sa building code sa mga common sa residential area? pasincya po mga master d kasi ako arki kaya tanung lang ako ng tanung dito. salamat po
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Post by joenni Wed Oct 19, 2011 2:27 pm

hello, magtatanong lang po, yung minimum setback po ba na 3m sa front at 2m sa sides goes all the way up? i mean pwede po ba na yung 2nd at 3rd floor ng building ay mas lumaki? kunyari yung lot is 12m x 7m (rectangular) tapos yung front nya is yung 7m, sa right side at rear ay firewall ng kapitbahay. Pwede po ba na sa taas ang setback na lang ay maging 2m sa harap at 1m sa gilid? TIA

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Post by whey09 Wed Oct 19, 2011 5:39 pm

yung sa front dapat 1/3 lang pwede mo i overhang, so kung 3 meters setback mo sa ilalim, pwede ka lang mag overhang hanggang 1 meter, yung sa side baka hindi pwede 1 meter, baka 0.50 meters pwede pa,


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Post by micoliver1226 Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:06 am

whey09 wrote:yung sa front dapat 1/3 lang pwede mo i overhang, so kung 3 meters setback mo sa ilalim, pwede ka lang mag overhang hanggang 1 meter, yung sa side baka hindi pwede 1 meter, baka 0.50 meters pwede pa,
bro whey,may idea ka ba kung ilan ang allowable front set back sa tandang sora area..maraming salamat..sa quezon city pala ito
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Post by whey09 Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:16 am

along tandang sora ba sir? ang alam ko sir kung gagawin mong parking atleast min of 6 mtrs., minsan kasi yung city engineers office will require you much bigger setback lalo na kung may plan sila na road widening,
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Post by micoliver1226 Fri Oct 21, 2011 10:41 am

oo sir,sa may NIA village,proposed 3 storey residential.kasi yung mga existing na bahay dun ngayon e mayroon lang more or less 1.5m from property line to the edge sa building,so i assumed na pwedeng gayahin ang mga iyon kung wala pang nabagong ruling pagdating ng zoning sa area..ty
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Post by bokkins Fri Oct 21, 2011 6:17 pm

micoliver1226 wrote:oo sir,sa may NIA village,proposed 3 storey residential.kasi yung mga existing na bahay dun ngayon e mayroon lang more or less 1.5m from property line to the edge sa building,so i assumed na pwedeng gayahin ang mga iyon kung wala pang nabagong ruling pagdating ng zoning sa area..ty

Nakagawa na kami dyan sa area. Ganyan nga ang situation dyan, but you still have to follow what the law is saying. Or you will just be another architect lost in the crowd.

Ito suggestion ko. Make the front setback 3m. Or 5m if you want to park cars infront. Then fire wall ka on both sides if you want to maximize the lot. But make sure na may setback ka sa likod ng 2m-5m din. Kung sobrang haba naman ng lot, maglagay ka ang airwell sa gitna to the firewall. 2mx2m ang minimum nyan, pwede maging interior garden. Sa harap naman at 2nd floor, saka mo na iextend ang outwards ng 1 meter. That's the best way to do it following the standards. May reason yang setbacks kaya very strict sila to implement it. Aside from magkakaproblema ka sa city hall.
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Post by micoliver1226 Fri Oct 21, 2011 9:05 pm

bokkins wrote:
micoliver1226 wrote:oo sir,sa may NIA village,proposed 3 storey residential.kasi yung mga existing na bahay dun ngayon e mayroon lang more or less 1.5m from property line to the edge sa building,so i assumed na pwedeng gayahin ang mga iyon kung wala pang nabagong ruling pagdating ng zoning sa area..ty

Nakagawa na kami dyan sa area. Ganyan nga ang situation dyan, but you still have to follow what the law is saying. Or you will just be another architect lost in the crowd.

Ito suggestion ko. Make the front setback 3m. Or 5m if you want to park cars infront. Then fire wall ka on both sides if you want to maximize the lot. But make sure na may setback ka sa likod ng 2m-5m din. Kung sobrang haba naman ng lot, maglagay ka ang airwell sa gitna to the firewall. 2mx2m ang minimum nyan, pwede maging interior garden. Sa harap naman at 2nd floor, saka mo na iextend ang outwards ng 1 meter. That's the best way to do it following the standards. May reason yang setbacks kaya very strict sila to implement it. Aside from magkakaproblema ka sa city hall.
thanks for the enlightment sir bokks
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Post by reeses Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:27 am

Good evening mga cgp.
Makatanong lang po about setback and lot size.
Ung friend ko kasi bibili ng lot. Ang sabi ng developer 60sqm lot.
Ganito ung lot sa pic katabi nya ang road sa harap na walang sidewalk. Ung right side RROW. Ang lot size na sixty babawasan pa ba yan ng setback sa harap and sa side na pang public sidewalk? Ibabawas ba yan sa 60sqm or dapat gumawa sila ng provision for public sidewalk na labas sa usapan ng 60sqm? Medyo di nya alam ang zoning sa area na ito.
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Liliit na masyado ung lot kapag ung sa harap binawasan ng 3m na setback. Ano ba ang tamang computation ng lot pag sinabi na 60sqm?
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Post by bokkins Fri Jun 01, 2012 1:54 pm

sobrang liliit nyang corner lot bro. at least 2m pa ang setbacks nyan sa side ng road. baka kaya 1.5m kung pipilitin, pero hindi advisable. Wala ng matitira sa lupa.
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Post by Master Noob Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:19 pm

60 sq.m is your lot, yung public sidewalk, hindi yun dapat kasama sa lot mo, developer ang magpo-provide nun. pag sinabi ng developer na sa lot mo kukunin yung space for sidewalk, huwag mo na bilhin yang lot.
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Post by arlodesign Sun Jul 01, 2012 2:05 am

Actually setback considerations depend on the type of lot you've been doing(corner,etc.)
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Post by zagvot Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:57 am

magandang topic to mga boss

kahit CE ako dapat ma learn ko ito

walang book dito sa amin yan kasi mindanao ako
san makaka order ng building code na libro?
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Post by archmanlapao Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:17 am

reeses wrote:Good evening mga cgp.
Makatanong lang po about setback and lot size.
Ung friend ko kasi bibili ng lot. Ang sabi ng developer 60sqm lot.
Ganito ung lot sa pic katabi nya ang road sa harap na walang sidewalk. Ung right side RROW. Ang lot size na sixty babawasan pa ba yan ng setback sa harap and sa side na pang public sidewalk? Ibabawas ba yan sa 60sqm or dapat gumawa sila ng provision for public sidewalk na labas sa usapan ng 60sqm? Medyo di nya alam ang zoning sa area na ito.
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Liliit na masyado ung lot kapag ung sa harap binawasan ng 3m na setback. Ano ba ang tamang computation ng lot pag sinabi na 60sqm?
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If i am not mistaken this kind of lot is a for subdivision based on BP220 the set back is different in PD1095 (NBC) in BP 220 the front & side setback is 1.5 meters , rear setback is 2.0 meters
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Post by bokkins Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:33 am

zagvot wrote:magandang topic to mga boss

kahit CE ako dapat ma learn ko ito

walang book dito sa amin yan kasi mindanao ako
san makaka order ng building code na libro?

National bookstore bro. Saka hingi ka ng mga requirements sa city hall, yun guidelines nila ang maggogovern on building a structure.

Good luck!
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Post by arlodesign Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:49 pm

archmanlapao wrote:
reeses wrote:Good evening mga cgp.
Makatanong lang po about setback and lot size.
Ung friend ko kasi bibili ng lot. Ang sabi ng developer 60sqm lot.
Ganito ung lot sa pic katabi nya ang road sa harap na walang sidewalk. Ung right side RROW. Ang lot size na sixty babawasan pa ba yan ng setback sa harap and sa side na pang public sidewalk? Ibabawas ba yan sa 60sqm or dapat gumawa sila ng provision for public sidewalk na labas sa usapan ng 60sqm? Medyo di nya alam ang zoning sa area na ito.
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Liliit na masyado ung lot kapag ung sa harap binawasan ng 3m na setback. Ano ba ang tamang computation ng lot pag sinabi na 60sqm?
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If i am not mistaken this kind of lot is a for subdivision based on BP220 the set back is different in PD1095 (NBC) in BP 220 the front & side setback is 1.5 meters , rear setback is 2.0 meters

...if the lot is being was sold as a residential lot on a subdivision or any housing area it should be properly defined by its correct boundary line representing the limitation of that particular lot therefore the side walk is absolutely not included to that buildable area of that lot, and for the arcading system of buildings, projections over the side walk is allowed starting from the first floor but certain percentage distance of the sidewalk is considered, every additional floor will correspond a bigger percentage distance from the sidewalk to the building outermost edge which also includes the roof.(ex. first floor edge distance will be 5% of the sidewalk width, the 2nd floor should be highier that 5%)...

As advice to the buyer of any lot, make sure that the area should not include the sidewalk even on the lot survey because sidewalk is intended for government or public use.
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Post by arlodesign Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:57 pm

And onemore thing as for the clarification on the lot subdivision for this particular area, the dimension of lot varies due to its use and purpose and for this size this is intended for rowhousing which uses a sharing firewall in-between neighbors and a firewall also on both ends.. so if the lot subdivision is intended for rowhousing or townhousing, it is not allowed to contruct a single detach which requires setbacks minimum on three sides.....
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Post by oRangE.n.GreeN Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:31 pm

arlodesign wrote:... the arcading system of buildings, projections over the side walk is allowed....

Ano yung arcading system bro? And you can project over the sidewalk?

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Post by whey09 Sun Jul 01, 2012 10:37 pm

pinapayagan pa ba ang arcading system parang yung mga building sa recto?
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Post by mokong Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:30 am

archmanlapao wrote:
reeses wrote:Good evening mga cgp.
Makatanong lang po about setback and lot size.
Ung friend ko kasi bibili ng lot. Ang sabi ng developer 60sqm lot.
Ganito ung lot sa pic katabi nya ang road sa harap na walang sidewalk. Ung right side RROW. Ang lot size na sixty babawasan pa ba yan ng setback sa harap and sa side na pang public sidewalk? Ibabawas ba yan sa 60sqm or dapat gumawa sila ng provision for public sidewalk na labas sa usapan ng 60sqm? Medyo di nya alam ang zoning sa area na ito.
Building setback?? - Page 3 23k3p05
Liliit na masyado ung lot kapag ung sa harap binawasan ng 3m na setback. Ano ba ang tamang computation ng lot pag sinabi na 60sqm?
Thanks

If i am not mistaken this kind of lot is a for subdivision based on BP220 the set back is different in PD1095 (NBC) in BP 220 the front & side setback is 1.5 meters , rear setback is 2.0 meters

As far as i know (correct me if mali ako), ang setback na nakasaad sa BP220 is intended only for low-cost housing project na may developer (massive housing project), tapos may house design A, B, C etc.. yung design ng bawat bahay ay dumadaan sa city planning dev. office, eng'g, sangunniang panglungsod for approval...

If ever ibang house design ang itatayo na hindi kasama na approve design, diyan na papasok ang PD 1096 (NBCP).. setback na gagamitin is yung nakasaad sa PD 1096.

para sa nilagay mong image suggest ko lang na gawing firewall yung isang side tapos sa kabilang side is 1.5 m setback, sa harap is 2m setback at sa likod naman is 1.5m, kung gusto naman niya sulitin ang boung lot pwede niyang gawing firewall yung sa likod. pwede din gawing tatlong side naka firewall, lakihan mo lang yung mga windows for ventilation..

sana makatulong ito.
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Post by redbull Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:52 am

i am not an architect. pls help with the interpretation of the following:

A DWELLING UNIT including any structure constructed or installed as a
component thereof, such as but not limited to servant's quarters,
gazebos, covered terraces and/or parts thereof, must be constructed at a
distance of not less than 3 meters from the boundary of the lot which
is fronting a street and 2 meters from other boundaries not fronting a
street. The setback shall be measured from the property line to the
nearest finished wall/window or column or any projection from the said
wall/window or column.

my question is: if you have a bay window,
do you still measure from the finished wall OR from the edge of the of
the bay window?


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Post by arlodesign Wed Jul 04, 2012 1:59 am

mokong wrote:A setback will be considered as sidewalk where there is no obstraction.. medyo hindi rin ito na elaborate sa book tong setback na ito.. RQUI if you have copy of the book, kindly find that illustration..

Censya na po sir, as clarification, setback cannot be considered as sidewalk because setback is still part of the private property that can only be part of public use thru eminent domain but to be paid by the government and sidewalk is for a government or public usage that doesn't need to be paid off in any means.an imho....thank you
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Post by arlodesign Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:02 am

redbull wrote:i am not an architect. pls help with the interpretation of the following:

A DWELLING UNIT including any structure constructed or installed as a
component thereof, such as but not limited to servant's quarters,
gazebos, covered terraces and/or parts thereof, must be constructed at a
distance of not less than 3 meters from the boundary of the lot which
is fronting a street and 2 meters from other boundaries not fronting a
street. The setback shall be measured from the property line to the
nearest finished wall/window or column or any projection from the said
wall/window or column.

my question is: if you have a bay window,
do you still measure from the finished wall OR from the edge of the of
the bay window?

Sir, the setback always starts from the outer edge of the wall that stands directly to ground, so if the bay window is suspended start of the measurement will be from the wall that carries the window..hope it helps
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Post by redbull Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:47 am

arlodesign wrote:
Sir, the setback always starts from the outer edge of the wall that stands directly to ground, so if the bay window is suspended start of the measurement will be from the wall that carries the window..hope it helps

salamat sa iyong reply. nakalagay sa description: ANY PROJECTION FROM THE SAID WALL/WINDOW OR COLUMN.
ito yun nakakalito sa description. what if yun bay window ko suspended nga, doesn't the bay window give me additional living space? pwede kong takasan yun setback requirements by making suspended bay windows kasi ang measurement is yun finished wall at hindi yun edge ng bay window.

what if meron akong poste/column na nakadikit sa finished wall ko na pang-arte lang from ground to the roof (does not carry the weight of anything - pang-design lang), saan ang measurement ng setback? from the property line to the edge of the columns/posts or sa finished wall pa rin kung ang pagbabasehan natin ay yun description?

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Post by mokong Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:51 am

arlodesign wrote:
mokong wrote:A setback will be considered as sidewalk where there is no obstraction.. medyo hindi rin ito na elaborate sa book tong setback na ito.. RQUI if you have copy of the book, kindly find that illustration..

Censya na po sir, as clarification, setback cannot be considered as sidewalk because setback is still part of the private property that can only be part of public use thru eminent domain but to be paid by the government and sidewalk is for a government or public usage that doesn't need to be paid off in any means.an imho....thank you

Yeah you're right but in some other places (kagaya dito sa amin) yung setback ay ginagawa na rin nilang sidewalk.. As I remember noong nasa eng'g pa ako sa city may tinibag kami na pader sa isang sikat na restaurant sa amin.. yung pader na iyon ay part pa ng kanilang property... tinibag namin hanggang sa 3meters na setback dahil iyon ang gagawin naming sidewalk para through and throung yung passage way ng mga tao..

Sa awa ng Dios kinasuhan kami umabot sa Ombudsman.. hehe.. Pero using the setback as sidewalk pa rin ang nanaig na dismiss yung kaso... my power parin ang government na ipatupad yung setback gawing sidewalk because in some places kasi maliit lang yung sidewalk kaya kinakaylangan na pati yung setback sinasama as sidewalk. Kahit na iyan nakasaad sa NBCP but there are some other regulations pa kasi pa kasi like city ordinance at sa City Planning Dev. Office.
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Post by arlodesign Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:06 am

redbull wrote:
arlodesign wrote:
Sir, the setback always starts from the outer edge of the wall that stands directly to ground, so if the bay window is suspended start of the measurement will be from the wall that carries the window..hope it helps

salamat sa iyong reply. nakalagay sa description: ANY PROJECTION FROM THE SAID WALL/WINDOW OR COLUMN.
ito yun nakakalito sa description. what if yun bay window ko suspended nga, doesn't the bay window give me additional living space? pwede kong takasan yun setback requirements by making suspended bay windows kasi ang measurement is yun finished wall at hindi yun edge ng bay window.

what if meron akong poste/column na nakadikit sa finished wall ko na pang-arte lang from ground to the roof (does not carry the weight of anything - pang-design lang), saan ang measurement ng setback? from the property line to the edge of the columns/posts or sa finished wall pa rin kung ang pagbabasehan natin ay yun description?

You'ere correct, take note window is a window and no other use but to provide light and ventilation and aesthetic on the otherhand and make sure it doesn't stands directly to the ground in order not to be considered as a living space.

And regarding the protruding column on wall as part of design, that column should be properly indicated on the plan to properly represent as its purpose not to be the reference on setback consideration.hope it helps....
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Post by arlodesign Wed Jul 04, 2012 3:16 am

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:
arlodesign wrote:... the arcading system of buildings, projections over the side walk is allowed....

Ano yung arcading system bro? And you can project over the sidewalk?

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Arcading is the building projection over public streets and/or alleys, yan po sir..
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