When and How can we say that there is a "Philippine Architecture" ?

walang magawa...kaya ito na lang gawa po ako ng thread for the very important question even some employer's ask this....

Have a look of the Bahay Kubo and our own bahay na bato... and then may be you can recognize what our own...?

Napaka hirap sagutin yan sir......kadalasan kasi ng mga design satin
inspred or di kya copied from other countries.....kahit nga mga sikat na structure sa pinas hindi parin natin masasabing gawang pinoy...for example no.1-yung ccp (Cultural Center of the Philippines) ni uncle locsin sabi ng iba ginaya nya sa falling water ni Frank Lloyd Wright ...yung cantilever style ba which is possible kasi mas nauna ang falling waters kesa sa ccp at si locsin lang siguro nun ang sikat na arkitekto at me pera na pwede makapunta sa US.
Example no2- yung gusali ng pambansang museo (Philippine National MUSEUM ...found in the 50 peso bill) is obviusly an example of classical architecture...pero bat natin tinatawag na "Philippine" national museum.
Yap pwede nating sabihin na satin ang bahay kubo pero actually maraming gumamit ng bahay kubo.....example sa micronesia...yung mga islanders dun bahay kubo din gamit ibang style,massing and construction nga lang......yung sa atin kasi me tukod(stilts) kaya orig at mas presentable.
Mas masasabi pa natin na philippine architecture ang bahay na bato kaso natigil kasi ang evolution nito...kung hindi sana tayu nasakop ng ibat ibang lahi marahil umusbong at nagdevelop ang bahay na bato bilang philippine architecture.
Hindi rin natin masisisi kasi ang tingin kasi natin nun sa mga kano napaka superior nila kesa satin tapos yung pagdating pa ng western culture sa bansa natin kaya nakalimutan na ang bahay na bato at bahay kubo genre.
We should design structures lalo na pag itatayu dito sa pinas tropically and soundly bearing some recognition of our country....dapat sa lahat ng projects me makikita tayung original na pinoy qualities para hindi makalimutan ang ating pinagalingan....

saan ba nagmula ang bahay na bato? kung titingnan natin sir... bahay kubo pa rin ang pinagmulan neto... madami nagkakamali jan na ang bahay na bato is an spanish architecture pero nde... this is our own...! our very own!!!
ung mga examples mo malayo na un... simple lang ung ibinigay ko sir... bahay kubo...
Hindi rin kasi natin maalis ung mga similarities s mga design... some concepts are influences of different architectures,ages and purposes...! nag eevolve sila sir hindi kinokopya....think of roman architecture...? dba kumuha sila ng concept from the greeks...? pero mas pinaganda pa nila eto to the extent na nakagawa sila ng sarili nila... for example the tuscan order and the composite order....? dba?!
mahirap talga i-define ang sariling atin... s dami ng sumakop satin.. marami ang nabago at naputol ung pagunlad ng sariling atin...!

ayos na move sya dito salamat sa MOD

ito pa po

Is that BAHAY KUBO or BAHAY NA BATO is from filipino? magulo parin satin to db?

check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_Philippines#Bahay_na_Bato

Stryker wrote:check this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Architecture_of_the_Philippines#Bahay_na_Bato

the link says that The Bahay Na Bato, the Colonian Filipino House, is a mixture of native Filipino, Spanish and Chinese influences. In Vigan, Ilocos Sur, excellently preserved examples of the houses of the noble Filipinos can be admired. In Taal, Batangas, the main street is still ligned with examples of the traditional Filipino homes.

cge,magdesign kayo ng pinoy na pinoy para masabi natin na atin...antayin ko yan ah..

arki_vhin:(no offense)"the Colonian Filipino House" sabi db??Filipino nkalagay db??so "Filipino" db? it does not mean that if there is a mixture,it aint filipino..nung wala pang intsik at espanyol sa pinas,san nkatira ang mga filipino?ung mga igorot,san nkatira??ibig bang sabihin wala silang bahay nung dumating ang mga espanyol at intsik?
grabe ang pinas....matagal na pa lang naghihirap..nkakaawa.

japanese ang bamboo db?so ung bahay kubo japanese style?joke

You will not find any of the Spanish Colonial Filipino Houses in Spain. That is already a very good statement that there is a Filipino Architecture kung physical aspect ang paguusapan.

You will also see the Filipino Architecture on how the way spaces are done during the earlier years of construction.

Dagdag na din sa physical aspect. you will find the bahay kubo a filipino house dahil na din sa dito sya sa Pilipinas nakikita. Although it is very similar to our Asian Neighbors dahil na din sa land bridges and maritime activities during the earlier years. Mapapansin mo na kahit magkapareho ang roots ng mga bahay na to but none of the materials were imported. By that simple fact. It is already known as the Filipino Architecture.

At nagevolve yan, gaya ng nasa link ni stryker.

Share ko nalang din, If you want to see more of the Filipino Architecture in one place, try to visit the Acuzar Heritage Village (Ciudad Real de Acuzar) in Bagac, Bataan. Here's a link of the beautiful photos taken by Jong Basco. Quite an awesome scene to see.

http://jongbasco.multiply.com/photos/album/250/Ciudad_Real_de_Acuzar_?replies_read=64

imho walang Philippine Architecture...cguro bahay kubo mayron tayo,pero di sya Architecture...actually ginagawa pa lang naten ang Philippine Architecture,using our own bahay kubo...

K-W-E-B-A : yan ang philippine architecture!!!ating-atin!be proud!!

kahit san naman sa mundo may kweba. pro oo, yun naman talaga ang early shelter dahil maganda ang protection from rain and sun.

champorado wrote:K-W-E-B-A : yan ang philippine architecture!!!ating-atin!be proud!!

heheheh tama ka jan sir....pero hindi lang namn pinoy gumawa nyan....begining of mankind yan na talaga ang first residence!
I think wala tayu pwedeng sabihing Philippine Architecture......kasi laging me touch of other nation.....tama nga nagevolve yung bahay na bato mula sa bahay na kubo...pero spanish parin ang main concept nito kahit me gawang pinoy mas evident naman ang spanish architecture..
For me mas masasabi ko pa na concrete example ng Philippine Architecture yung Ifugao Fal-e ( native house of the cordilleran people) kasi first and for most nung nasakop ng spanish ang philippines ang mga igorot at muslims lang hindi nagpasakop!
AT nung dumating ang mga americans they already established theri own brand of architecture...kaya kung pagkokomparahin mo ang bahay na bato sa ifugao fal-e mas di hamak na pinoy ang fal-e....ang bahay kubo kasi maraming gumamit nayan sa mag tprocial island gaya ng nauru, hawaii, at other islands of micronesia...ibang desenyo at method of construction kaso ang idea is almost desame.....kung titignan pa natin ng mabuti ala kang makikitang foriegn detail or hindi pinoy sa fal-e hindi gaya ng bahay na bato na very evident.....
Ang arhitecture kasi sa Pilipinas eh pwede ng tawagin na "HYBREED ARCHITECTURE"...kumbaga ito yung dulot ng halo-halo oh mixture of all architectural styles.....

kweba...! amp!

that is what im saying... bahay na bato evolve from the bahay kubo... and may be said to be a mixture of native filipino, spanish and Chinese "Influences". and even before the spaniards came the bahay kubo is already exists in many forms and kinds...!

mahaba habang tlakayan to!

jenaro wrote:imho walang Philippine Architecture...cguro bahay kubo mayron tayo,pero di sya Architecture...actually ginagawa pa lang naten ang Philippine Architecture,using our own bahay kubo...

ito rin ang paniniwala ko......

I beg to differ, so does architecture only relate to the major structures? That the bahay kubo in itself is NOT a piece of architecture? Even caves - as a cave in itself, it is nothing. But the moment man took them for shelter AND painted the walls in order to make them aesthetically pleasing, man has started becoming an architect (quoted by some famous guy).

Now on the Philippine context, kahit naman pare pareho ang styles ng bahay whether it is from Spain or Indonesia or China, the fact is the bahay kubo and the bahay na bato are 100% Philippine Architecture.

Any structure that has evolved, refined to suit the tropical, geophysical, cultural and social aspects ng isang lugar, becomes endemic to that region.

So ang bahay kubo, kahit maraming variants and similarities with our Asian neighbors is still our very own. It contains all the base design elements of what influences that structure - such as

1. Raised floor, stilted, floating: this is to allow the structure to "float" against floods, extreme heat during the summer, and to allow the structure to sway during earthquakes.

2. During normal days the lower level acts as storage, parking bays for carts, sometimes farm animals and a bit of cooking are done below (this is supposedly to assist in warding off mosquitoes)

3. The interior space layout of the house is also unique. It is important that the main living space is one of the biggest areas in the house - reason being Filipinos are very social people and the living space should be able to accommodate visitors during fiestas and extra banig space for relatives who stay in transient.

4. The materials obviously are taken from whatever is available in the area. while FLW was preaching that with his fallingwater, our ancestors have already been doing it.

5. Roof design: the slope is patterned functionally to weather our climate conditions most especially rains. semiotically it manifests the natural shape of our hills and mountains that they fuse with the environment themselves.

6. It is quite interesting how the Ifugao huts were designed as well. The columns are not piled to the ground: they sit on a series of discs/notches on the legs, which is supposedly to prevent a fall to the ground - should the upper part slip and fall.

7. Aesthetic sensibilities of course vary from region to region - the treatment in Luzon may be different from that of Visayas, or Mindanao which may incorporate Tausug elements or the Bajao stilt houses (which sit on water bodies) but the core elements remain the same.

You will find it surprising that these very same elements and many others are also present in the bahay na bato, which makes it the big brother of our bahay kubo. One such similarity is the roof design. The bahay na bato is a result of our evolution and the introduction of our Spanish colonizers' own culture, albeit a major rehash of the structure is the use of striking and multiple colors (Filipinos being a colorful lot).

For interiors we also have our unique features. An example would be the old salas.. forgot what they're called, but remember how they used to have mini cages underneath? These are actually spaces for visitors to keep their chickens or fighting cocks.



That is why Lindy Locsin's CCP has been hailed as a reflection of Filipino architecture simply by adhering closely, whether intentional or not, to the bahay kubo's concepts. I won't go in detail as to the similarities, but one striking resemblance is the illusion that the CCP "floats" and that the main level is also the second, not the lower level.

hahah...ang dami na nating reactions about sa topic ko...INteresting diba?.. so syempre dapat meron din ako...

for me...hindi ko rin masabi na may philippine architecture but the filipino attitude or ways on how we live...we can say that this structure was a filipino architecture..HOW? just simple...kung anu ang kinaugalian nating mga Pinoy sa araw araw na ating ginagawa... By its Function...sa bahay natin...pag pasok diba? Living area agad kung saan ginaganap ang pagsasama sama ng ating pamilya...then may dining agad...at halos katabi ay kitchen...dun ko masasabi na sya ay filipino architecture...

THen i also believe in our Philippine History... connected din ang ibang aspeto kung saan nagmula ang ating Filipino Architecture...

salamat sa mga comment ninyo at nadag dagan ang kaalaman ko...hintayoin pa natin ang iba ...

hehehehehh if we consider bahay na kubo as philippine architecture and try showing it to the natives of micronesia....baka sabihin nilang sa kanila yun..........pati ang bahay na bato.....show it to the europeans and they might say na ginaya ng mga pilipino.....but try showing the ifugao fal-e to other nationalites.....magtatanong yan..ano ba yan west indies ba? sa ecuador ba yan?...hindi nila madidistinguish kasi its all original! Iba kasi ang tingin ng karamihan na pinoy sa mga igorot..para bang napaka baba nilang nilalang kaya hindi napansin ang kanilang architecture...pero kung tutuusin sila pa nga me say na ang ifugao fal-e is philippine architecture..walang katulad na structure. Critics nga ayaw tanggapin yung fact na yun pero without bias sa tingin ko yun ang tama. Ang ifugao fal-e kasi alang halong ibang architectural style or foreign touch..its all cordilleran and they are filipino. Ang bahay kubo is maraming katulad...kung national house ng pinas yun pwede rin national house na micronesa or nauro yun. Ang bahay na bato naman kahit anong lahi mo itanong sasabihing it has a spanish touch....imposibleng first impression ng ibang lahi it has a filipino touch sa unang tingin...hindi naman diba.
Kaya kung titignan sa ano mang aspect regarding philippine architectrue 1st ang ifugao fal-e 2nd bahay na bato at 3rd bahay na kubo. Steorotype lang kasi ang tingin natin sa mga kababayan natin igorot kaya ganun.
if you ever watched yung movie na apocalypto ni mel gibson....bahay kubo namn tirahan nila dun ha..ibang chosen of material nga lang.
(FIY po mga master hindi ako igorot.....mixture po ako ng ilocano at bicolano.....and im living in baguio city! yung kalinga city na location ko is wala lang ......hehehehehhehe para hindi matrace?)

i think sa south of the philippines meron din ata,yung lokal nang mga taga zamboanga i think meron silang sariling style nang architecture dun sa kanila,im not sure about that pero parang meron

yung mga bahay na bato sa batanes?may katulad ba yun sa iba?

ishae_clanx wrote: kadalasan kasi ng mga design satin
inspred or di kya copied from other countries.....kahit nga mga sikat na structure sa pinas hindi parin natin masasabing gawang pinoy..

sir imho lang po ,,does it mean na wala ring roman architecture.. kc adopted sa greek architecture ang character nya...well kung ganun cguro under lahat ng architecture sa prehistoric architecture , kc halos lahat ng principles ay basically nagmula at kinopya dun. (cromlech , arc, behive hut.etc)

sakin naman tingin ko may mga similarities talaga sa mga architecture, pero may pagkakaiba sila in some manner...

ayus tong discussion na ito ah. may laman...

pixelburn wrote:

ishae_clanx wrote: kadalasan kasi ng mga design satin
inspred or di kya copied from other countries.....kahit nga mga sikat na structure sa pinas hindi parin natin masasabing gawang pinoy..

sir imho lang po ,,does it mean na wala ring roman architecture.. kc adopted sa greek architecture ang character nya...well kung ganun cguro under lahat ng architecture sa prehistoric architecture , kc halos lahat ng principles ay basically nagmula at kinopya dun. (cromlech , arc, behive hut.etc)

sakin naman tingin ko may mga similarities talaga sa mga architecture, pero may pagkakaiba sila in some manner...

ayus tong discussion na ito ah. may laman...

bro adopted ng roman architecture sa greek pero nkapagdeveloped sila ng kanilang style kaya mayrong roman architecture imho... if we can developed our own style im sure mgkakaroon tayong Philippine Architecture na tatawagin...

actually meron din adaptation at development sa atin. kaya magkapareho ang micronesia, indonesia, malaysia at kahit sa madagascar kasi they belong sa austronesia. pro may distinction din yan sa isat isa dahil sa local materials.

tulad ng greek at evolution ng roman architecture.

tulad din ng india to china to japan.

Malalim itong Philippine Architecture. Kailangan lang ng in depth study. Usually kasi, ang tinuturo sa school na history of architecture ay nakabase lang sa fletcher. Kaya medyo kulang ang kaalaman natin dito. Kailangan lang iresearch pa ng konti.