Civil Engineers to Practice Architecture

First topic message reminder :

http://www.architectureboard.ph/news.php?id=139#main

any thoughts?

@arkiedmund
OT: nadali mo sir! kaya pala napaka-lalim nung kanta... kay Cabangon pala.
actually wala ko alam kay Cabangon pero naalalako ginamit ko na yung Kanlungan
sa isang college proj - "Bible of My Life" [my life's milestones] naka-relate siguro yung prof
isa ako sa mga binigyan ng 100 na grado dahil siguro dun...
[salamat sa background info - check ko yan]

sa madali't salita wala po ako kinalaman sa usapang ito, sa totoo lang
gusto ko lang po mag pasalamat sa lahat ng nagmulat ng ating mga mata
sa bagay-bagay... nakikiisa po ako sa istilo ng pagpapahayag ni ramon mendoza
[na btw ubod ng layong kamaganak ng dad ko... hehehe - ubod yun ah - sa name]
kaya sa mga sumusunod na kapatid, comment nyo po ang napili kong champ.

- celes
- arkiedmund
- alapaap

hindi po kasi nakakatension at nakakadilim ng paningin basahin
at dahil po dun - mas naintindihan ko ang one-liner ni sir whey09
na para sakin ang essence naman talaga ng usapan na ito...

nagbago na isip ko - ayoko na pala ng tigil-construction or tigil-rendering
bilang protesta sa mga balubaluktot na gustong pairalin ng bill na yun...
healing mass nalang kaya [tulad kay ate glo] para sa CE na nasaktan?
or concert for a cause - total marami naman ata music lover sa philippines...
may line-up na ko naisip... iba pang bagets, iba pang thunders... makarelate lahat hehehe

opening = para sa mga arki na naninindigan...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5-yKhDd64s&ob=av2e

No more drama from now on, I promise
to focus solely on handlin my responsibilities as a father
So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof, like my daughters
and raise it, you couldn't lift a single shingle on it!
Cause the way I feel, I'm strong enough to go to the club
or the corner pub, and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar
I'd shoot for the moon but I'm too busy gazin at stars
I feel amazing and I'm [chorus]

para sa naman sa pagkaka-jumble ng mga terms and clauses...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miZWYmxr8XE

para sa finale - group hug [ahaha]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdYLpm7kdIY&feature=related

salamat uli - at maging malawak pa po sana ang ating pananaw
pero wag sanang sobrang lawak na OT na lang ang comment... thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zc8aOzIEZBk

whey09 wrote:paalala lang po ulit, hindi po ito arki vs. ce, at hindi rin po ito thread para malaman kung sino mas magaling mag design, this thread po is about a bill about CE to practice architecture,

i know whey09,,tumugun lang ako dun sa sinabi ni sir arkiedmund na hindi nag dedesign ng tulay arkitekto...gustu kulang malaman talaga kung yun ay totoo,,,,bata pa kasi ako,,mulat na kaisipan ko na Engineer lang nag dedesign ng tulay,,,,aT least nalaman ko ngayon na Architect pala may design ng mga magagandang tulay sa mundo...



Back to Topic:..hayaan na natin sa kinauukulan yang case nayan...at kung ano man ang maging decission,,respetuhin natin..,,

Tama ka simplykate architect ang nag design ng magagandang tulay sa mundo but this refers to architectural design.. very broad po yang design na word... Kasi meron din tayong tinatawag na structural design which is for CE, this refers to the structural elements.. i would like to clarify lang po..

arkiedmund wrote:@M_Shadows: makiki-off topic din ako. Baka ibig mo pong sabihin ay yung kinanta ni bamboo. Yung awiting tatsulok ay sinulat nila Noel Cabangon at Rom Dongeto nung nasa grupong buklod pa sila. Nirecord nga nila ito at napasama sa isang album na ang title ay tatsulok (kung di ako nagkakamali).

Sila din po yung may akda nung kantang Kanlungan na sumikat lamang nung nilabas sa isang mc donalds commercial nung 2004, pero sikat na yung awiting kanlungan sa defunct na NU107 noong 1998 pa.

Ok, balik sa paksa:

Based sa mga nabasa ko, meron na palang aksyon na ginawa ang UAP tungkol sa isyung ito. Sana ay bigyan ng pansin ito ng ating mambabatas, ng saganun ay maisa-tuwid na ang lahat.

@arkiedmund: the album was "We Stand Alone Together" ng Bamboo 2007, cover album sya and hit single nila yung tatsulok then sumunod yung So Far Away..

anyway back to the topic, pinadefer na ni Sen Lacson yung SB bill, it's a good news for now because we'll also be watching the SB2109 of senator escudero

here's the link
http://www.cgpinoy.org/t20048-senate-bill-2770-defers-to-sb-2109#346939

Position of the Professional Regulatory Board of ARCHITECTURE (PRBoA) on Senate Bill No. 2770

Republic of the Philippines
Department of Labor and Employment (DoLE)
Professional Regulation Commission (PRC)
Manila_____________________________________________________
The Professional Regulatory
Board of Architecture (PRBoA)
Office of the Acting PRBoA Chairman
Email Address: prboa.prc.gov.ph@gmail.com
URL/ website: www.architectureboard.ph
Mobiles: 0928.3695508 0922.8415161 0916.3822826
Fax: c/o 02.286.2678 ___
Your Ref: Our Ref : 11ag04_PRBoA-698

04 August 2011
Republic of the Philippines
SENATE OF THE PHILIPPINES
GSIS Building, Financial Center, Roxas Blvd., Pasay City
ATTENTION : The Senate Committees on Civil Service and Government Reorganization and Finance (CCSGO & CF)
SUBJECT : OFFICIAL PRBOA POSITION ON SENATE BILL NO. 2109 INSOFAR AS IT IMPACTS/ UNDULY AFFECTS THE PRACTICE OF THE STATE-REGULATED PROFESSION OF ARCHITECTURE IN THE PHILIPPINES
REFERENCES : 1) Senate Bill No. 2109 filed 10 July 2011 by Sen. Francis G. Escudero (An Act Further Amending R.A. No. 544, as Amended, or the Civil Engineering Law (5 pages);
2) Official PRBoA Position and Supplemental Position Nos. 1, 2 and 3 on Senate Bill No. 2770 (dated 29 July and 01/ 02 and 03 August 2011 and transmitted to/ received at the Joint Senate Committees/ CCSGO & CF on even dates) Insofar as It Impacts/ Unduly Affects The Practice Of The State-Regulated Profession of Architecture in the Philippines;
3) Senate Bill No. 2770 filed 31 March 2011 by Sen. Panfilo M. Lacson (An Act Professionalizing the Practice of Civil Engineering in the Philippines, Repealing for this Purpose R.A. No. 544, as Amended, and for Other Purposes (15 pages);
4) R.A. No. 9266 (Architecture Act of 2004), a valid and subsisting law, approved 17 March 2004, effective 10 April 2004, and its 2004 IRR and derivative regulations; and
5) TWG Hearing scheduled 1:00pm on 09 August 2011

Dear Sirs/ Mesdames,
Warm greetings from the Professional Regulatory Board of Architecture (PRBoA)!
Senate Bill (SB) No. 2109 is a measure that seeks to strengthen the civil engineering (CE) profession. Many of its proposed provisions are also incorporated in the separately filed SB No. 2770. Please find herewith the PRBoA comments/ suggestions on SB No. 2109.
As the future of the architecture profession and its 28,000 registrants is at stake, the PRBoA would like to officially participate in the future Committee hearings and TWG meetings on SB No. 2770. The PRBoA could be reached thru mobile numbers 0916.382.2826 (Globe) or 0928.369.5508 (Smart) or 0922.841.5161 (Sun) or c/o telefaxes 02.454.7592 or 02.286.2678 (private office numbers) or thru email at prboa.ph@gmail.com or prboa.prc.gov.ph@gmail.com or through any of the contact numbers/ addresses stated in the letterhead (reference information at top & bottom of this page).
Thank You for the attention that the Senate Committees shall devote to considering and dissecting the official PRBoA position on SB No. 2109 (attached in 5 pages).
Mabuhay ang mga batas na dapat mamayani! Mabuhay po kayo!
Yours sincerely,
The PRBoA






att : a/s
file : 11ag04_PRBoA-698___________________________________________________________________
Office of the Assistant Secretary (AsSec) to the Professional Regulatory Boards (PRBs), 3/F Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) Main Building, PRC Compound, P. Paredes St., cor. N. Reyes St., Sampaloc 1008, City of Manila, PH, P.O. Box 2038 Manila Tel. 02.735.1533 (c/o Mrs. Myrna Taruc) or c/o Tel. 02.314.0018 and PRBoA Fax: c/o 02.286.2678


FIFTEENTH CONGRESS OF THE ) SENATE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY
REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES ) 10 JUL 27 A10:46
First Regular Session )
SENATE
S. B. NO. 2109
___________________________________________________________________
Introduced by Senator FRANCIS G. ESCUDERO
__________________________________________________________________

EXPLANATORY NOTE
The Civil Engineering Law, Republic Act No. 544, which governs the practice of Civil Engineering in the Philippines, was last amended [49]56 years ago.
Since then/ the number of registered civil engineers has grown to over 1[00]25,000 today. A new role for the civil engineer has likewise evolved in the light of the globalization and cross-bo[a]rder practice. Whereas before the civil engineer was confined to the application of technical knowledge with a boarder range of issues to deal with, the civil engineer now has to face the challenges of integrating the socio-economic and environmental issues with the technical aspects of the construction projects. The civil engineer is constantly challenged to design and build developments in a manner that isenvironmentally sound, socially acceptable, and globally competitive.

This bill, with its proposed amendments of the law, seeks to achieve the following objectives:
1. To attune the law to national development needs;
2. To strengthen the profession and enable civil engineers to cope with the formidable challenges brought about by globalization and cross-bo[a]rder practice;
3. To continually upgrade the level of competence of the civil engineers through:
a. peer recognition of specialization in civil engineering;
b. continuous professional development; and
c. the strengthening of the accredited professional organization of civil engineers;
In view of the foregoing, the immediate passage of this proposed legislation is earnestly sought.
FRANCIS G. ESCUDERO








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Position of the Professional Regulatory Board of ARCHITECTURE (PRBoA) on Senate Bill No. 2770 (29 July 2011) Page 1 of 5
03 August 2011 Comments / Suggestions by the PRBoA in UNDERLINED BOLD TYPEFACE NEW TIMES ROMAN FONT
FIFTEENTH CONGRESS OF THE ) SENATE OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY
REPUBLIC OF THE PHILIPPINES ) 10 JUL 27 A10:46
First Regular Session )
SENATE
S. B. NO. 2109
_________________________________________________________________
Introduced by Senator FRANCIS G. ESCUDERO
AN ACT
FURTHER AMENDING REPUBLIC ACT NO; 544, AS AMENDED, OR THE CIVIL ENGINEERING LAW
Be it enacted By the Senate and the House a/Representatives of the Philippines in Congress assembled:
SECTION 1. Sections 2, 4, 13, 16 and 19 of Republic Act No- 544, as
amended, are hereby further amended to read as follows:
"Section 2. Definition of Terms.
(a) The practice of civil engineering within the meaning and intent of this Act shall embrace services in the form of NON-ARCHITECTURAL consultation, design, preparation of plans, specifications, estimates, AND THE erection, installation and supervision of the construction of streets, bridges, highways, railroads, airports and hangars, port works, canals, river and shore improvements, lighthouses, and dry docks; buildings[,] AND fixed structures for irrigation, flood protection, drainage, water supply and sewerage works; demolition of permanent structures; and tunnels. The enumeration of any work in this section shall not be construed as excluding any other work requiring civil engineering knowledge and application.
(b) The term "civil engineer" as used in this act shall mean a person duly registered with the Board for Civil Engineers in the manner as hereinafter provided.
(C) ACCREDITED PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS (APOCE) SHALL MEAN THE [ PHILIPPINE INSTITUTE OF CIVIL ENGINEERS (PICE) WHICH IS THE ] OFFICIAL NATIONAL ORGANIZATION OF ALL REGISTERED CIVIL ENGINEERS IN THE PHILIPPINES AS ACCREDITED BY THE PROFESSIONAL REGULATION COMMISSION."
"Section 4. Powers and duties of the Board. - The PROFESSIONAL REGULATORY Board of [Examiners of] Civil Engineers is vested with authority, conformable with the provisions of this Act, to administer oaths, issue, suspend and revoke certificates of registration for the practice of civil engineering, [ issue certificates of recognition to civil engineers already registered under this Act for advance studies, research, and/ or highly specialized training in any branch of civil engineering, subject to the approval of the Secretary of the Public Works
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Position of the Professional Regulatory Board of ARCHITECTURE (PRBoA) on Senate Bill No. 2770 (29 July 2011) Page 2 of 5
03 August 2011 Comments / Suggestions by the PRBoA in UNDERLINED BOLD TYPEFACE NEW TIMES ROMAN FONT

and Communications, ] to investigate such violations of this Act and the regulations, there-under as may come to the knowledge of the Board and, for this purpose, issue subpoena and subpoena duces tecum to secure appearance of witnesses in connection with the charges presented to the
Board, to inspect at least once a year educational institutions offering courses in civil engineering, civil engineering works, project or corporations, established in the Philippines and, for safe-guarding of life/ health and property, to discharge such other powers and duties as may affect ethical and technological standards of the civil
engineering profession in the Philippines. For the purpose of this act, the REGIONAL DirectorS of the DEPARTMENT OF Public Works and/or his authorized representative in the provinces and chartered cities shall be ex-officio agents of the Board and as such shall be their duty to help in the enforcement of the provisions of this Act.

The Board may[, with the approval of the Secretary of Public Works and Communications issue] PROMULGATE such rules and regulations as may be deemed necessary to carry out the provisions of this act. THE LATEST EDITION OF THE CIVIL ENGINEERING CODE,THE MANUAL OF PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE OF CIVIL ENGINEERS AS PREPARED BY THE APOCE AND APPROVED BY THE POARD SHALL FORM PARTOF
THE IMPLEMENTING RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THIS ACT. The Board shall also adopt a code of ethics in the practice of civil engineering and have an official seal to authenticate its official documents."

"SECTION 4 (A). CERTIFICATE OF SPECIALIZATION - IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE THE CONTINUING PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF REGISTERED CIVIL ENGINEERS, THE [ ACCREDITED PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS (APOCE) BY THE PROFESSIONAL REGULATION COMMISSION ] BOARD SHALL BE VESTED WITH AUTHORITY CONFORMABLE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ACT, TO ISSUE A CERTIFICATE OF SPECIALIZATION TO A REGISTERED AND LICENSED CIVIL ENGINEER WHO HAS DEMONSTRATED HIS ADVANCE KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, EDUCATION, AND TRAINING IN A

RECOGNIZED BRANCH OF CIVIL ENGINEERING: PROVIDED, THAT AT THE INITIAL EFFECTIVITY OF THIS ACT, THE SPECIALIZATION OF CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT AND ENGINEERING, GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEERING, STRUCTURAL ENGINEERING, TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERING, AND WATER RESOURCES AND HYDRAULICS ENGINEERING SHALL BE SO RECOGNIZED. PROVIDED FURTHER, OTHER SPECIALIZATION MAY BE ADDITIONALLY [BE] RECOGNIZED BY THE [APOCE] BOARD. SPECIALISTS IN EACH RECOGNIZED BRANCH MAY FORM A SPECIALTY ORGANIZATION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS (SOCE): PROVIDED FURTHER THAT THIS SOCE IS AFFILIATED TO AND RECOGNIZED BY THE [APOCE] BOARD. PROVIDED FINALLY, THERE IS ONLY ONE SOCE FOR EACH RECOGNIZED BRANCH OF CIVIL ENGINEERING, WITHOUT PREJUDICE TO MEMBERSHIP IN OTHER VOLUNTARY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATIONS. THE HOLDER OF SUCH CERTIFICATE OF SPECIALIZATION MAY USE THE SPECIALIST TITLE IN THE SIGNING OF RELEVANT PLANS AND DOCUMENTS.
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Position of the Professional Regulatory Board of ARCHITECTURE (PRBoA) on Senate Bill No. 2770 (29 July 2011) Page 3 of 5
03 August 2011 Comments / Suggestions by the PRBoA in UNDERLINED BOLD TYPEFACE NEW TIMES ROMAN FONT

THE [APOCE] BOARD SHALL [HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO] SUSPEND OR REVOKE A CERTIFICATE OF SPECIALIZATION PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ON GROUNDS OF VIOLATION OF ANY OF THE PROVISION OF THIS ACT."

"Section 13. Oath of Civil Engineers. - All successful candidates in the examination shall be required to take a professional oath before the PROFESSIONAL REGULATORY Board [Examiners] of Civil Engineers or other government officials authorized to administer oaths, prior to entering upon the practice of the civil engineering profession. ALL NEWLY REGISTERED AND LICENSED CIVIL ENGINEERS SHALL ALSO TAKE THEIR OATH AS MEMBERS OF THE ACCREDITED PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION OF CIVIL ENGINEERS (APOCE) AND SHALL COMPLY WITH ALL THEIR MEMBERSHIP REQUIREMENTS."

"Section 16. Refusal to Issue Certificate - The PROFESSIONAL REGULATORY Board of [Examiners for] Civil Engineers shall not Issue a certificate to any person convicted by a court of a competent jurisdiction of any criminal offense involving moral turpitude, or to any person guilty of immoral or dishonorable conduct, or to any person of unsound mind. THE BOARD SHALL NOT ISSUE A CERTIFICATE TO ANY PERSON WHO IS NOT A MEMBER [ OF GOOD STANDING ] OF THE APOCE. In the Event of a refusal to issue a certificate to any person, the Board shall give to the

applicant a written statement setting forth its reason for such action, which statement shall be incorporated in the
records of the Board."

"Section 19.Transitory Provisions.As soon as this Act takes effect, any person desiring to practice the profession of civil engineering shall be required to obtain a certificate of registration in the manner and under the conditions hereinafter provided. All civil engineers duly licensed under the provisions of Act Numbered [Twenty-nine hundred,and eighty- ] FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY five, as amended, at the time this Act takes effect, shall be automatically registered under the provisions hereof. Certificates of registration held by such persons in good standing shall have the same force and effect as though the same have been issued under the provisions of this Act. CERTIFICATES OF SPECIALIZATION ISSUED TO REGISTERED CIVIL ENGINEER BY THE BOARD [ OR ACCREDITED PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION FOR CIVIL ENGINEERING (APOCE) ] HELD BY SUCH PERSONS IN GOOD STANDING SHALL HAVE THE SAME FORCE AND EFFECT AS THOUGH THE SAME HAVE BEEN ISSUED UNDER THE PROVISIONS OF THIS ACT."


SEC. 2. Repealing Clause. - All other laws, decrees, presidential issuances, proclamations, and administrative regulations inconsistent with or contrary to the provisions of this Act are hereby amended, modified or repealed accordingly[ , specifically, among others. Executive Order No. 495 dated 06 December 1992 ].

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Position of the Professional Regulatory Board of ARCHITECTURE (PRBoA) on Senate Bill No. 2770 (29 July 2011) Page 4 of 5
03 August 2011 Comments / Suggestions by the PRBoA in UNDERLINED BOLD TYPEFACE NEW TIMES ROMAN FONT

SEC. 3. Separability Clause. - In the event that any provision of this Act is declared void or unconstitutional such declaration shall not affect the validity of the unaffected provisions of this Act.

SEC. 4. Effectivity Clause. - This Act shall take effect fifteen (15) days after its complete publication in at least two (2) newspapers of general circulation.

Approved,






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Position of the Professional Regulatory Board of ARCHITECTURE (PRBoA) on Senate Bill No. 2770 (29 July 2011) Page 5 of 5
03 August 2011 Comments / Suggestions by the PRBoA in UNDERLINED BOLD TYPEFACE NEW TIMES ROMAN FONT

Senate Bill 2770 (introduced by Sen. Panfilo Lacson-March 31, 2011)

Noted:
(c) General Practice of Civil Engineering within the meaning and intent of this Act shall embrace services such as, but not limited to consultation, planning, design, preparation, signing, sealing of plans, specifications, estimates, erection, installation, demolition and supervision of construction/demolition of civil engineering structures and facilities including their components, sites and environs such as, but not limited to, streets, bridges, highways, and railroads; airports and hangars; port works, canals, river and shore improvements, lighthouses, and dry docks; buildings, towers, signboards, billboards, chimneys, silos, containment structures and solid waste disposal sites; fixed structures for irrigation, flood protection, drainage, water supply and sewerage works; and twmels. The enumeration of any work in this section shall not be construed as excluding any other work requiring civil engineering knowledge and application.

(d) Scope of the practice of civil engineering encompasses the provision of professional services in connection with services of civil engineering structures and facilities and may include, but are not limited to:

(1) Technical, economic and financial feasibility studies, project promotional services, planning and designing;

(2) Pre-design services such as, but not limited to, consultation, consultancy, giving written advice and directions, evaluations, surveys, investigations, quantity surveys, appraisals and adjustments, environmental impact assessment and studies, schematic design, and design development;

(3) Preparation, signing, sealing of plans, specifications, calculations, bill of materials, cost estimates, tender documents, invitation for bids/proposals, instructions to bidders/offerors, general conditions, special conditions, and contract documents;

(4) Construction and project management, giving general management,administration, supervision, coordination and responsible direction of the planning, designing, construction, reconstruction, erection, alteration, conversion, enlargement or demolition, renovation of civil engineering structures and facilities, including all their components, sites and environs, intended for private or public use;

(5) Planning, lay-outing and utilization of spaces within and surrounding such civil engineering structures and facilities including their sites, interiors, spaces, utilities systems, equipment, and fixtures;

(6) Programming, administration, construction arbitration, conservation and restoration;

(7) All works which relate to the scientific and orderly coordination of all works and branches of the work, systems and processes necessary for the production of complete civil engineering structures and facilities, whether for public or private use, in order to enhance and safeguard life, health and property and the promotion and enrichment of the quality office; and

(8) All other works, projects and activities which require the professional competence of a civil engineer, including teaching of professional civil engineering subjects and civil engineering computer-aided design and computer-aided mapping.


http://www.senate.gov.ph/lisdata/110899453!.pdf

andy32 wrote:

arkiedmund wrote:@M_Shadows: makiki-off topic din ako. Baka ibig mo pong sabihin ay yung kinanta ni bamboo. Yung awiting tatsulok ay sinulat nila Noel Cabangon at Rom Dongeto nung nasa grupong buklod pa sila. Nirecord nga nila ito at napasama sa isang album na ang title ay tatsulok (kung di ako nagkakamali).

Sila din po yung may akda nung kantang Kanlungan na sumikat lamang nung nilabas sa isang mc donalds commercial nung 2004, pero sikat na yung awiting kanlungan sa defunct na NU107 noong 1998 pa.

Ok, balik sa paksa:

Based sa mga nabasa ko, meron na palang aksyon na ginawa ang UAP tungkol sa isyung ito. Sana ay bigyan ng pansin ito ng ating mambabatas, ng saganun ay maisa-tuwid na ang lahat.

@arkiedmund: the album was "We Stand Alone Together" ng Bamboo 2007, cover album sya and hit single nila yung tatsulok then sumunod yung So Far Away..

anyway back to the topic, pinadefer na ni Sen Lacson yung SB bill, it's a good news for now because we'll also be watching the SB2109 of senator escudero

here's the link
http://www.cgpinoy.org/t20048-senate-bill-2770-defers-to-sb-2109#346939

off-topic:

Ang ibig kong sabihin ay unang lumabas ang kantang tatsulok sa album ng buklod, 2 times pa nga ito lumabas, sa album mismo at sa isang greatest hits album, ng maghiwalay na sila noel at rom due to musical differences. Kasama din ang kantang TATSULOK sa isang double cassette compilation entitled "Karapatang Pantao". I still have the tape kept in my drawer.

And yes that bamboo album where the cover of Tatsulok can be found is called "we stand alone together". Not a bamboo fan though. But i do appreciate their music, wala nga akong copy ng cd's even the rivermaya bamboo era, wala din. The music is nice, it's just that i never was really into bamboo even during the rivermaya days. I started liking rivermaya, when rico took over the vocal duties.

I've seen his backing band jamming in puerto galera years ago. Ayos naman, but ira cruz(passage, introvoys, bamboo, kapatid) is not as flexible as sir noel mendez(passage, and session musician extra-ordinaire), IMHO, and karel honasan(barbie's cradle, YOSHA) is a better bass player based on what i've been seeing, as for the drummer, nagkaroon sila ng hidwaan dati ni mike alba, ok din si vic mercado, pero mas malupit sa di pagbibilang yung drummer ng kitchen sync from baguio, sabi pa nga ng ilan, overrated masyado ang bamboo. But to his credit, he sings way better than rico. And most of the rivermaya hits were written by rico blanco.

Nathan and ira has a new band now, called HIJO, together with junjie lerma of radioactive sago project, who is a very good guitar player. And azarcon's music is more non-mainstream so to speak, more jazz in a way, and i kinda dig the songs.

yung so far away naman ay isang original ni carole king, and may rod stewart version din ito....

Hope clear na sa yo lahat.

Back to topic:

That's good news, at least there is hope, let's see what happens next. And let's hope something good and beneficial to both parties will come about from this action. Babasahin ko mamaya yung bill ni senator lacson. Sa ngayon, matutulog muna ako.

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Senate Bill No. {., , { I . ! I
Introduced by SENATOR PANFILO M, LACSON
EXPLANATORY NOTE
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'11 MAR 31 P5:05
The Civil Engineering Law, Republic Act No. 544, which governs the practice of civil
engineering in the Philippines, was last amended 55 years ago.
Since then, the number of registered civil engineers has grown to over 90,000 today. A
new role for the civil engineer has likewise evolved in the light of globalization and cross- border
practice. Whereas before the civil engineer was confined to the application of technical
knowledge and skills in the successful implementation and completion of projects, the civil
engineer is now conti'onted with a broader range of issues to deal with. The civil engineer now
has to face the challenges of integrating the socio-economic and environmental issues with the
technical aspects of the construction projects. The civil engineer is constantly challenged to
design and build developments in a manner that is environmentally sound, socially acceptable,
and globally competitive.
This Bill, therefore, seeks to achieve the following objectives:
1. To attune the law to the needs for national development;
2. To strengthen the profession and enable the civil engineers to cope with the formidable
challenges brought about by globalization and cross-border practice;
3. To continually upgrade the level of competence of the civil engineers through:
a. peer recognition of specialization in civil engineering,
b. continuing professional development, and
c. strengthening of the accredited professional organization of civil engineers;
4. To define more clearly the practice of civil engineering in the Philippines by foreign
nationals;
5. To promote the growth of the consulting sector by making it cognizant of the
international philosophy of multi-disciplinary consultancy services;
6. To remove a provision that makes contracting of multi-disciplinary consultancy
services unnecessarily difficult, complicated and impracticable and which now
adversely affects the infrastructure of the government to the extent that work and
payment to contracted parties on projects are suspended; and
7. To make the law better serve and safeguard public interest by establishing a clear,
precise and practicable delineation of professional and corporate contractual
accountability in the civil engineering practice. In view of the foregoing, the immediate passage of this Bill is earnestly sought.
PA~~~ACSON
\ /Sena tor FIFTEENTH CONGRESS OF THE REPUBLIC}
OF TI-IE PHILIPPINES }
First Regular Session }
SENATE ~'7"f~
Senate Bill No. 2770
Introduced by SENATOR PANFILO M. LACSON
AN ACT
'1] MAR 31 P5 :05
RECEIVED BY:
PROFESSIONALIZING THE PRACTICE OF CIVIL ENGINEERING IN THE
PHILIPPINES,
REPEALING FOR THIS PURPOSE REPUBLIC ACT NUMBER FIVE HUNDRED AND
FORTY-FOUR (RA No. 544), AS AMENDED, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES
Be i t enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the Philippines in Congress
assembled:
Article I
TITLE OF THE ACT AND DEFINITION OF TERMS
Section 1. Title of Act - This Act shall be known as the "Civil Engineering Law of
2011."
Sec. 2. Definition of Terms - As used in this act, the following terms shall be defined as
follows:
(a) Civil Engineering is the sCIence or profession in which knowledge of the
mathematical and physical sciences gained by study and practice is applied with judgment to
utilize natural and man-made resources and forces in the planning, design, management,
construction, and maintenance of buildings, structures, facilities, and utilities in their totality, for
the progressive well-being and use of mankind, enhancing the environment, community living,
industry, and transportation, taking into consideration such aspects as functionality, efficiency,
economy, safety, and environmental quality.
(b) Civil Engineer as used in this Act shall mean a person duly registered with the
Board of Civil Engineering in the manner as hereinafter provided.
(c) General Practice of Civil Engineering within the meaning and intent of this Act
shall embrace services such as, but not limited to consultation, planning, design, preparation,
signing, sealing of plans, specifications, estimates, erection, installation, demolition and supervision of construction/demolition of civil engineering structures and facilities including
their components, sites and environs such as, but not limited to, streets, bridges, highways, and
railroads; airports and hangars; port works, canals, river and shore improvements, lighthouses,
and dry docks; buildings, towers, signboards, billboards, chimneys, silos, containment structures
and solid waste disposal sites; fixed structures for irrigation, flood protection, drainage, water
supply and sewerage works; and twmels. The enumeration of any work in this section shall not
be construed as excluding any other work requiring civil engineering knowledge and application.
(d) Scope of the practice of civil engineering encompasses the provision of professional
services in connection with services of civil engineering structures and facilities and may
include, but are not limited to:
(1) Technical, economic and financial feasibility studies, project promotional
services, planning and designing;
(2) Pre-design services such as, but not limited to, consultation, consultancy, giving
written advice and directions, evaluations, surveys, investigations, quantity
surveys, appraisals and adjustments, environmental impact assessment and
studies, schematic design, and design development;
(3) Preparation, signing, sealing of plans, specifications, calculations, bill of
materials, cost estimates, tender documents, invitation for bids/proposals,
instructions to bidders/offerors, general conditions, special conditions, and
contract documents;
(4) Construction and proj ect management, giving geueral management,
administration, supervision, coordination and responsible direction of the
planning, designing, construction, reconstruction, erection, alteration, conversion,
enlargement or demolition, renovation of civil engineering structures and
facilities, including all their components, sites and environs, intended for private
or public use;
(5) Plam1ing, lay-outing and utilization of spaces within and surrounding such civil
engineering structures and facilities including their sites, interiors, spaces, utilities
systems, equipment, and fixtures; (6) Programming, administration, construction arbitration, conservation and
restoration;
(7) All works which relate to the scientific and orderly coordination of all works and
branches of the work, systems and processes necessary for the production of
complete civil engineering structures and facilities, whether for public or private
use, in order to enhance and safeguard life, health and property and the promotion
and enrichment of the quality ofiife; and
(8) All other works, projects and activities which require the professional competence
of a civil engineer, including teaching of professional civil engineering subjects
and civil engineering computer-aided design and computer-aided mapping.
(e) The term "Boa rd" as used in this act shall mean the Board of Civil Engineering.
(f) The term "Commi s s ion" as used in this act shall mean the Professional Regulation
Commission of the Philippines.
(g) The term " a c c r edi t ed professional organization of civil engineers" as used in this
Act shall mean the Philippine Institute of Civil Engineers (PICE) which is the official national
organization of all registered Civil Engineers in the Philippines as accredited by the Professional
Regulation Commission.
(h) The term "Specialist" as used in this act shall mean a registered Civil Engineer who
is certified by the PICE to have demonstrated his advanced knowledge, experience, education,
and training in a recognized specialization of Civil Engineering, and who is the recipient of a
certificate of specialization set forth in section 24 of this act.
(i) The term "Specialty Organization of Civil Engine e r ing (SOCE)" as used in this
Act shall mean the organization of PICE-certified specialists in the specialization of Civil
Engineering. The SOCE shall be recognized by the PICE and shall be given a status as an
affiliate organization of the PICE.
0) "Civil Engineer-of-Record" is the Civil Engineer registered under this Act, and
qualified under the implementing rules and regulations hereof, who is the signatory and sealer to
the plans and building permits, specifications, calculations and others that form part of the contract documents for a project or component of a project, and who is therefore professionally
responsible and liable for the design for that project or component of that project.
(k) "Civil Engineer In-charge of Construction" is the Civil Engineer registered under
this Act, and qualified under the implementing rules and regulations hereof, who is the signatory
and sealer to the building permit of a project or component of a project and who is therefore
professionally responsible and liable for the construction management and supervision of the
project or component of that project.
(1) "Civil Engine e r Pl'ime Professional" is the Civil Engineer registered under this Act,
and qualified under the implementing rules and regulations hereof, who is responsible for the
overall integration, coordination, and successful conduct of all of the processes who is engaged
in the project from inception to completion.
(m) "Continuing Professional Development (CPD)" refers to a sustaining and
progressive learning process that maintains, enhances, or increases the knowledge and
continuing ability of Civil Engineers.
Article I I
BOARD OF CIVIL ENGINEERING
Sec. 3. Composition Of The Boa rd - Within three (3) months after the approval of thi s
Act, there shall be created a Board of Civil Engineering, a collegial body under the
administrative supervision by the Commission to be composed of a chairman and four members
who shall be appointed by the President of the Philippines, upon the endorsement of the
Commission, who shall select from the list of at least three (3) nominees for each position as
submitted by the PICE. The chairman shall be appointed by the President of the Philippines
from among the members of the Board, and shall serve as chairman until the expiration of his/her
term. Except for the first chairman, only members of the Board that have served for at least one
(1) year as member of the Board shall be qualified to be appointed as chairman.
Sec. 4. Te rms Of Office of Board Members - The members of the Board shall hold
office for a term of three (3) years after appointment or until their successors shall have been
appointed and shall have duly qualified. The first members of the Board appointed under this Act shall hold offiee for the following terms: the chairman for three (3) years; two (2) members
for two (2) years; and two (2) members for one ( I ) year. Each member of the Board shall qualify
by taking the proper oath of office before performing his/her duties. Any member of the Board
may be removed by the President of the Philippines for neglect of duty, incompetence,
malpractice, unprofessional, unethical, immoral, or dishonorable conduct, after having been
given opportunity to defend himself in a proper administrative investigation by the Commission:
Provided, that during the process of investigation the President of the Philippines shall have the
power to suspend such member under investigation and shall appoint a temporary member in his
place. Vacancies in the Board shall be filled for the unexpired term only. No member of the
Board may be appointed to more than two (2) consecutive terms.
Sec. 5. Powers And Duties of the Boa rd - The Board, subject to the administrative
supervision by the Commission, is vested with authority conformable with the provisions of this
Act, to administer oaths, issue, suspend, revoke or reinstate certificates of registration and
professional identification card for the practice of Civil Engineering, to issue and revoke special
temporary permits, to investigate such violations of this Act and the regulations, thereunder as
may come to the knowledge of the Board, and, for this purpose, issue subpoena and subpoena
duces tecum to secure appearance of witnesses in connection with the charges presented to the
Board, to inspect educational institutions offering courses in civil engineering, civil engineering
works, projects or corporations, established in the Philippines and, for safeguarding of life,
health and property, to discharge such other powers and duties as may affect ethical and
technological standards of the Civil Engineering profession in the Philippines.
Sec. 6. Promulga t ion Of Implementing Rules And Regulations - The Board shall
promulgate such rwes and regulations to carry out the provisions of this Act. The latest edition
of the Civil Engineering Code and the latest edition of the Manual of Professional Practice for
Civil Engineers as prepared by the PICE and approved by the Board, shall form part of the
implementing rules and regulations. The PICE shall prepare a code of ethics in the practice of
Civil Engineering, which shall also be part of the implementing rules and regwations upon
approval by the Board. The Board shall also adopt an official seal to authenticate its official
documents. /
Sec. 7. Qualifications of Board Members - Each member of the Board shall, at the time
of his appointment:
(a) Be a citizen and resident of the Philippines;
(b) Be at least thirty (30) years of age and of good moral character;
(c) Be a holder of a bachelor's degree in Civil Engineering fi'om a recognized and legally
constituted school, institute, college, or university;
(d) Be a Civil Engineer duly qualified to practice Civil Engineering in the Philippines;
(e) I-las practiced Civil Engineering, with a certificate as such, for a period of not less
than ten (10) years prior to his appointment. At least five (5) years of such practice
must be as either Civil Engineer-of-Record, Civil Engineer In-charge of Construction,
or Civil Engineer Prime Professional;
(f) Not be a member of the faculty of any school, institute, college, or nniversity where
Civil Engineering course is taught, nor have a pecuniary interest in such institutions;
(g) Be an active member in good standing of the PICE.
Sec. 8. Compensation Of The Board - The members of the Board shall each receive
as compensation the sum comparable to, and in like manner with, the compensation received by
like members of other existing professional regulatory boards under the Commission. A Civil
Engineer in the service of the goverl1l1lent of the Republic of the Philippines appointed as
member of the Board shall receive the compensation as herein provided, in addition to any
compensation received in such service.
Sec. 9. Annual Report - The Board shall, at the end of each fiscal year, submit to the
Commission a detailed report of its activities and proceedings during the period covered by the
fiscal year ended.
ARTICLE I I I
EXAMINATION, REGISTRATION AND CERTIFICATION
Sec. 10. Examination Requirement - All applicants for registration for the practice of
Civil Engineering shall be required to pass a technical examination as hereinafter provided. "
Sec. 11. Holding Of Examination - Examination of candidates for the practice of Civil
Engineering in the Philippines shall be conducted at such places and on such dates determined,
fixed, and announced by the Commission in accordance with the laws, rules, and regulations
governing the conduct of licensure examinations for all existing professional regulatory boards
under the Commission.
Sec. 12. Subjects Of Examination - Applicants for registration for the practice of Civil
Engineering shall be examined, in the discretion of the Board, on the following subjects:
(a) General Civil Engineering including, but not limited to project planning, designs and
management, manual of practice, codes and regulations, economics, enviromnental impact
assessment; materials testing and inspection, surveying, highway and railroad surveying; plane,
topographic and hydrographic surveying, and advanced surveying; numerical methods for
computer application; mathematics such as algebra, plane and spherical trigonometry, analytic,
descriptive and solid geometry, differential and integral calculus, and rational and applied
mechanics.
(b) Construction management and engineering including, but not limited to contracts,
enviromnent, cost estimates, unit cost development, construction schedule, manpower and
equipment scheduling and control, material control, pert-cpm, bar chart schedule, project
monitoring, s-curve, network analysis, time scheduling, project activities, project cost, project
control, quality assurance, bidding, tender doclll1lents, specifications, construction supervision.
(c) Transportation engineering including, but not limited to theory and practice of
transportation engineering, transportation and traffic engineering studies, pla1111ing, design and
construction of highways including pedestrian facilities, railways, ports and harbors, and
airports.
(d) Structural engineering including, but not limited to theory of structures, properties of
materials, lateral load analysis, earthquake engineering, wind engineering, fW1ctional planning,
floor plans, elevations, sections, utilities, design of wooden, reinforced concrete, steel, and
composite buildings, bridges, towers, walls, foundations, silos, and masonry structures.
(e) Geotechnical engineering including, but not limited to soil composition, classification
of soils, compaction of soils, flow of water in soils, permeability, seepage, flow nets, effective stress, compressibility of soil, shear strengths of soil, lateral earth pressure, soil bearing capacity,
slope stability, solid waste disposal systems and ground improvement.
(f) Water resources and hydraulics engineering including, but not limited to hydrology,
hydraulics, design of piers, ports, wharves, aqueducts, reservoirs, spillways, open channels,
pressure conduits, navigation canals and locks, sanitary engineering works, water supply system,
dikes, dams, and irrigation and drainage canals, hydropower.
Sec. 13. Qualifications For Examination - Any person applying for admission to the
Civil Engineering examination as herein provided shall, prior to the date of the examination,
establish to the satisfaction of the Board that he/she has the following qualifications:
(a) Be at least twenty-one (21) years of age;
(b) Be a citizen of the Phi I i ppines;
(c) Be of good reputation and moral character; and
(d) Be a holder of a bachelor's degree in civil engineering from a recognized and legally
constituted school, institute, college, or university
Sec. 14. Oath Of Civil Engineers - All successful candidates in the examination shall
be required to take a professional oath before the Board or other government officials authorized
by the Commission to administer oaths, prior to issuance of the certificate of registration.
Sec. 15. Certificate Of Registration - Individual certificates of registration shall be
issued by the Board and the Commission to all successful candidates in the examinations and
who have taken the professional oath, subject to payment of required fees prescribed by the
Commission. The certificate shall be the authority to practice, but may be suspended or revoked
by the Board and the Commission for jus t cause as may be provided by l aw after due notice and
hearing.
Sec. 16. Membership In The PICE - All registered Civil Engineers shall automatically
become members of the Philippine Institute of Civil Engineers (PICE), which is the accredited
professional organization of civil engineers, and shall comply with all the membership
requirements therein.
Sec. 17. Professional Identification Card - Individual professional identification cards
shall be issued by the Commission to all registered Civil Engineers, each card to bear the name and picture of the registrant, registration number, date of issuance of card, expiry date of card,
and signature of the chairman of the Commission. No professional identification card shall be
issued to the new registrant unless he/she presents a certificate of active membership in good
standing issued by the PICE. The same certificate shall be required before the Board and the
Commission shall renew the professional card of a registered Civil Engineer.
Sec. 18. Indi c a t ion of Certificate of RegistrationlProfessional Identification Ca rd
and Professional Tax Receipt - The Civil Engineer shall be required to indicate his/her
Certificate of Registration and Professional Identification Card, its date of issuance and the
duration of validity, including the professional tax receipt number, on the plans and documents
he/she signs, uses or issues in connection with the practice of his/her profession.
Sec. 19. Seal And Use Of Se a l - All Civil Engineers shall obtain a seal of such design
as the Board shall authorize and direct: Provided, however, That the serial number of the
certificate issued by the Board shall be included in the design of the seal. Plans and
specifications prepared by, or under the direct supervision of a Civil Engineer shall be stamped
with said seal during the life of the registrant's certificate, and it shall be unlawful for anyone to
stamp or seal any documents with said seal after the certificate of the registrant named thereon
has expired or has been suspended or has been revoked, lJJlless said certificate shall have been
renewed or re-issued. Plans, drawings, specifications, and other contract documents duly signed
and sealed, as instruments of professional service, shall remain the intellectual property of the
Civil Engineer, whether the object for which they are made is executed or not. I t shall be
unlawful for any person without the written consent of the Civil Engineer author of such signed
and sealed documents to duplicate or to make copies of said documents for use in the repetition
of said object or for other projects. Civil Engineers shall incorporate the text of the preceding
two (2) sentences in full and in prominent location in all written instruments of professional
service.
SEC. 20. Refusal to Issue Certificate - The Board shall not issue a certificate of
registration to any person convicted by a court of competent jurisdiction of any criminal offense
involving moral turpitude, or to any person guilty of immoral or dishonorable conduct, or to any
person of unsound mind. The Board shall not issue a certificate to any person who has not taken · ..
the oath of Civil Engineers. In the event of a refusal to issue a certificate to any person, the
Board shall give to the applicant a written statement setting forth its reason for such action,
which statement shall be incorporated in the records of the Board.
Sec. 21. Suspension And Revocation Of Certificates And Cancellation Of
Professional Identification Ca rds - Subject to the approval of the Commission, the Board
shaH have the power, after due notice and hearing aHowing the registrant the opportunity to
defend himself/herself in a proper administrative investigation by the Board, to suspend or
revoke the certificate of registration for any cause mentioned in the preceding section, to suspend
or revoke the celiificate due to the registrant's malpractice, nnprofessional, unethical, immoral,
dishonorable conduct or non-membership in good standing in PICE for tIn'ee (3) consecutive
years. When the certificate of registration is suspended or revoked, the professional
identification card shall be ordered cancelled by the chairman of the Commission.
Sec. 22. Re-Issue And Replacement Of Certificates And Professional Identification
Ca rds - The Board may, after the expiration of one ( I ) year from the date a certificate of
registration is revoked and for reasons it may deem sufficient, entertain an application for a new
certificate of registration from the registrant concerned. Such application shall be accomplished
in the same form prescribed for examination, but the Board may, in its discretion, exempt the
applicant from taking (he requisite examination. The corresponding application for professional
identification card shall be accomplished in the same form prescribed for renewal.
Sec. 23. Continuing Professional Development (CPD) - All registered Civil Engineers
shaH maintain a program of professional deVelopment to promote public interest and to
safeguard life, health, and property. The PICE shall have the responsibility of developing a
continuing professional development program for Civil Engineers. Other entities or
organizations may become CPD providers upon accreditation by PICE and the Board.
Sec. 24. Certificate Of Specialization - In order to encourage the continuing
professional development of registered Civil Engineers, the PICE which is the accredited
professional organization of Civil Engineers shall be vested with authority conformable with the
provisions of this Act, to issue, suspend, and revoke a certificate of specialization to a registered
Civil Engineer who has demonstrated his advanced knowledge, experience, education, and ' ..
training in a recognized branch of Civil Engineering: provided, that at the initial effectivity of
this Act, the specializations of construction management and engineering, geotechnical
engineering, structural engineering, transportation engineering, and water resources and
hydraulics engineering shall be so recognized, Provided further, other specializations may
additionally be recognized by the PICE. Only specialists in each recognized branch of
specialization may form a Specialty Organization of Civil Engineering (SOCE): Provided that
this SOCE is affiliated to and recognized by the PICE: Provided further, there is only one SOCE
for each recognized branch of Civil Engineering, without prejudice to membership in other
voluntary professional organizations. The holder of such certificate of specialization may use the
specialist title in the signing of relevant plans and documents
Sec. 25. Specialist Identification Ca rd - Individual specialist identification card shall
be issued by PICE to all registered Civil Engineer with certificate of specialization and renewed
in accordance with PICE requirements for renewal.
Sec. 26. Tr ans i tory Provisions - Upon the effectivity of this Act, all Civil Engineers
duly registered under the provisions of Republic Act 544, as amended, shall automatically retain
their registered status as i f they are registered under the provisions hereof. Certificates of
registration held by such persons in good standing shall have the same force and effect as though
the same have been issued under the same provisions of this Act. Certificates of recognition for
advanced studies, research, or highly specialized training in any specialized branch of Civil
Engineering issued to registered Civil Engineers under Republic Act 544 shall be replaced by
equivalent certificates of specialization by the PICE. Likewise, Certificates of Specialization
previously issued by PICE shall have the same force and effect as though the same have been
issued under the same provision of this Act.
Article IV
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS
Sec. 27. Pr epa r a t ion Of Plans And Supervision Of Construction By Registered Civil
Engineer - I t shall be unlawful for any person to order or otherwise cause the construction, -..
reconstruction, or alteration o[ any building or structure intended for public gathering or
assembly such as theaters, cinematographs, stadia, churches or structures of like nature, and any
other engineering structures mentioned in Section 2 of this Act unless the designs, plans, and
specifications of same have been prepared under the responsible charge of and signed and sealed
by a registered Civil Engineer, and lIDless the construction, reconstruction and/or alteration
thereof are executed under the responsible charge and direct supervision of a registered civil
engineer. Plans and designs of structures must be approved as provided by law or ordinance of a
municipality, city or province where the said structure is to be constructed.
Sec. 28. Individual And Personal Qualifications - The practice of Civil Engineering
is a professional service, admission to which must be determined upon individual, personal
qualifications.
Sec. 29. Partnerships And Corporations Engaged In Civil Engineering And
Multi-Disciplinary Consultancy - A sole proprietorship, partnership or corporation may
engage in providing consultancy services as defined in the National Economic Development
Authority (NEDA) guidelines for engagement of consultants in the field of Civil Engineering:
Provided that such an entity is owned and controlled by duly registered Civil Engineers and
provided that such sole proprietorship, partnership, or corporation has been issued a certificate of
registration by the Board. A sale proprietorship, partnership or corporation engaged in providing
consultancy services in the field of Civil Engineering may further offer and engage in providing
multi-disciplinary consultancy services provided that such professions are closely related to or
allied with Civil Engineering or incidental and indispensable to the practice thereof. Individual
members of such sole proprietorships, partnerships, or corporations shall be responsible for their
own respective professional acts.
Sec. 30. Prac t i c e Of Profession By Foreign Nationals - All foreign nationals,
including former Filipino citizens desiring to practice the profession of Civil Engineering in the
Philippines and are authorized by law to practice Civil Engineering in the Philippines, shall
apply [or a special temporary permit [rom the Board subject to approval of the Commission, in
accordance with the provisions of section 7(j) of Republic Act No. 8981. Except for cases where
the foreign national has already been issued a special temporary permit, the agencies, organizations, or individuals, whether public or private, who secure the services of a foreign
national authorized by law to practice Civil Engineering in the Philippines shall be responsible
for securing a special temporary permit from the Board, subject to approval of the Commission.
No working permit, temporary or permanent visa shall be issued by any government agency to
any foreign national intending to practice Civil Engineering in the Philippines without complying
with these provisions.
A foreign Civil Engineer or any person not authorized to practice Civil Engineering in the
Philippines, or a foreign Civil Engineer authorized to practice Civil Engineering in the
Philippines but has not been issued a special temporary permit from the Board, who shall stay in
the country and perform any of the activities mentioned in Section 2 of this Act or any other
activity analogous thereto, shall be deemed engaged in the unauthorized practice of Civil
Engineering.
Sec. 31. Ros t e r Of Civil Engineers - A roster showing the names and places of
business of all registered Civil Engineers shall be periodically prepared by the Commission
through the Board. Copies of this roster shall be placed on file with the PICE and furnished to
such government entities or agencies and municipal, city and provincial authorities as may be
deemed necessary and to the public upon request.
Article V
ENFORCEMENT OF ACT AND PENAL PROVISIONS
Sec. 32. Enfor c ement Of The Act By Officers Of The Law - I t shall be the duty of
all duly constituted law officers of the national, provincial, city and municipal governments,
or any political subdivisions thereof, to enforce the provisions of this Act and to prosecute any
person violating the same.
Sec. 33. Regi s t r a t ion Requi r ed - No person, sole proprietorship, partnership or
corporation shall practice or offer to practice Civil Engineering, or engage or offer to engage in
providing Civil Engineering consultancy services in the Philippines without having obtained the
proper certificate of registration from the Board Sec. 34. Requi r ement for A Wr i t t en Service Agreement, Appointment or
Employment Cont r a c t - Any person or entity whether private or public, Filipino or foreign,
who shall entice, compel, coerce, require, or otherwise cause a duly registered Civil Engineer to
perform or undertake any Civil Engineering work or professional service without first executing
a written service agreement, appointment or employment contract shall be deemed guilty of
violation of this Act.
Sec. 35. Positions In Gove rnment Requi r ing The Services Of A Civil Engine e r -
Within six (6) months from the effectivity of this Act, all existing and proposed positions in the
local and national government offices, whether appointive, career, permanent, temporary, or
contractual and primarily requiring the services of Civil Engineers whether or not using that
designation shall be filled only by registered Civil Engineers who are members in good standing
of the PICE.
Sec. 36. Penal Provisions - Any person who shall practice or offer to practice Civil
Engineering in the Philippines without being registered in accordance with the provisions of this
Act or any person presenting or attempting to use as his/her own the certificate of
registration/professional identification card of a registered Civil Engineer, or any person who
shall give any false or forged evidence of any kind to the Board, or any person who shall
impersonate any registered Civil Engineer of different name, or any person who shall attempt to
use a revoked or suspended certificate of registration/professional identification card, or any
person who shall use in connection with his name or otherwise assume, use or advertise any title
or description tending to convey the impression that he/she is a Civil Engineer, without holding
a valid certificate of registration, or any head of a government agency or officer of a private firm
or institution who fails to secure a special temporary pennit from the Board subject to approval
of the Commission prior to engaging the services of a foreign national to practice Civil
Engineering under the employ or engagement by the agency, firm or institution, nnless such
foreign national has already been issued a special temporary permit, or foreign nationals who
engage in the practice of Civil Engineering in the Philippines without the benefit of a special
temporary permit, or any person, partnership, or officers of corporation who shall violate Section
31 or any of the provisions of this Act and its implementing rules and regulations, shall be guilty • ••
of a misdemeanor and shall, upon conviction, be sentenced to a fine of not less than one hnndred
thousand pesos (PIOO,OOO) nor more than one million pesos (PI,OOO,OOO), or to suffer
imprisonment for a period of not less than six months nor more than three years, or both, at the
discretion of the COUI t . Foreign nationals who engage in the practice of Civil Engineering in the
Philippines without the benefit of a special temporary permit shall also be subject to deportation.
Sec. 37. Repeal - All laws, parts of laws, orders, ordinances, or regulations in conflict
with the provisions of thi s Act are hereby repealed. No laws of other allied professions shall limit
the scope of the practice of Civil Engineering nor shall exclude the Civil Engineer from
practicing his/her profession as defined in this Act: Provided, that he/she does not designate
himself/herself as such as other professional. Nothing in this Act would likewise limit the other
professionals from practicing their own respective professions: Provided, that such professional
does not designate himself/herself as a Civil Engineer.
Sec. 38. Separability Clause - I f any part or section of this Act shall be declared
unconstitutional, such declarations shall not invalidate the other provisions hereof.
Sec. 39. Effectivity - This Act shall tal(e effect upon its approval.
Approved,

Senate : Public Hearing on CE Law


The Senate Committee on Civil Service and Government Reorganization will conduct a Public Hearing on Tuesday, August 9, 2011 at 1:00 PM at the Sen. Padilla Room, 2nd Floor, Senate of the Philippines, Pasay City to deliberate on the following legislative measures:

SBN 2109: “AN ACT FURTHER AMENDING REPUBLIC ACT NO. 544, AS AMENDED, OR THE CIVIL ENGINEERING LAW” (Introduced by Senator F. Escudero);

SBN 2770: “AN ACT AN ACT PROFESSIONALIZING THE PRACTICE OF CIVIL ENGINEERING IN THE PHIILIPPINES, REPEALING FOR THIS PURPOSE REPUBLIC ACT NUMBER FIVE HUNDRED AND FORTY-FOUR (RA NO. 544), AS AMENDED, AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES” (Introduced by Senator P. Lacson

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@ M_Shadows



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@ TS sorry po wala pang comment masyadong maraming kailangan basahin pa.

parang pinaglihi lang sa koala or panda mga yun ah...
sa canada pwedeng pwede yan, dito sa pinas mahirap na....
baka isa yan sa modus operandi ng dukot-dukot gang...

ang saya naman ng kanta... [natuwa ako dun - bago ata]
pang good time este joyride... kala ko pang emo eh...

*meeting adjourned na ata eh... maliwanag na sa lahat?

Architectural drawings is for Architect, Structural drawings is for Civil Engineers the Architect has a broader mind when it regards on signing and sealing Architectural design and documents compared to C.E's that has no design subject and no design topics included on their board exams, so that this is not fair for the Architects that has studied on 5 years with 2 years of apprenticeship before taking the board exam..Hope that our law will carefully think on what is right, unless if they let the C.E's to approve their law on signing architectural documents, it will downgrade the Architecture profession in our country..

ang tawag nalang sa mga ganito ay Architectural Engineer!!!!!

Engineers, Architects, Interior Designers, Etc.........

Every professional can help each other to achieve a specific goal. . . no crabs, no greed, no anarchy....just pure passion of what we love to do.

We should know that this is not only a battle of UAP alone but its the Coucil of Architecture Profession, Thanks to UAP, PIA, BOA for all the effort to unites all Architecture groups first to make a stronger bond through the council. Let us be fair we knew that its not the Civil Engineers who initiate the sudden revision of this Law which favor them co-equal right in signing and sealing architectural plans. I have a lot of Civil Engineer friends who shared sentiment with us. According to them they are train to design structure to stand and its their duty, Architectural design is for Architects and Structural Design is for Civil Engineer and Structural Engineer, plain and simple its the greediness of the PICE official, according to PIA President the only way to compete is to strengthened our curriculum in architecture after-all clients will consult architect based on their performance and credibility of an Architect if you are good its your credit. Based on the report PICE are adding architectural units to their curriculum to support the bills, I'm sure this will be a big blow were most CE student hated ARKI subjects but the truth is the PICE are doing full effort to win this battle compared to UAP officials. If they only do their homework it will not reached this far, but anyway thanks a lot with this the council of ARCHITECTURE PROFESSION, UAP, PIA & BOA step by step we will reach our goal. Lets pray and hope that all the senators involved in this bill will be fair enough. By the way its really hard to win a battle of Technicalities and Number without a proper plan. Kaso talo tayo don mas marami sila, Ika nga kung gaano ka meticulous and pag-gawa nag plano ganon din dapat ang gawin ng Council of Architecture Profession !!! Good Luck!!

An info coming from Council of Architectural Profession:
TO ALL OUR MEMBERS, for more than a month of deliberations and consultations among our members and leaders, the UAP, PIA and the CODHASP finally agreed to established the COUNCIL FOR THE ARCHITECTURE PROFESSION last March 26, 2012, at the UAP HQTR. Our PIA Council member representatives are Jpaul Octaviano (Council Vice Chairman), Nic Pagulayan (Committee chairman Professional Practice), Nepthy Del Rosario (member, Comm. on Government Affairs) Cynthia Naval (member, Legal Affairs) and Joel Rico ( ExeCom Member). The Council's foremost objective is to safeguard, protect and promote the architectural profession in the Philippines. Kindly SHARE this message and images to all our PIA Sections / UAP Chapters. please be advise. Mabuhay ang mga Arkitektong Pilipino!

Pasalamat nga sila biglang lumabas ang Autocad kung hinde ewan ko lang kung saan pupulutin ang manual drafting nila.

its very unfortunate,thats just really sad.

Gusto nila wala na silang limitasyon. Gusto rin naming mabuhay. Sa mga ka cgp po jan baka may engineer... sana maisip nyo naman.. he he he he..

i think there is a reason kaya makulit itong mga civil engineers na ito. i think nakakakita sila ng malaking business oppurtunities sa mga trabaho nating mga arkitekto. ang payo ko lang sa mga may ari ng malalaking architectural office, dont hire these civil engineers. descriminate them in work. lahat gusto nilang pasukin. dont ever share knowledge to these civil engineers.

hello mga ka cgp's...

a bit late for this post...but this is the best word from the 13th congress itself which states...THE CEs HAVE NO ACADEMIC NOR SUB-PROFESSIONAL PREPARATION FOR ARCHITECTURAL PRACTICE AND THE CE LICENSURE EXAMINATION DOES NOT TEST THE EXAMINEES FOR KNOWLEDGE OR SKILLSETS REQUIRED FOR THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANNING AND DESIGN OF BUILDINGS. IN STARK CONTRAST, THE 450-QUESTION (2-DAY) LICENSURE EXAMINATION FOR ARCHITECTS (LEA) IS ONE HUNDRED PERCENT (100%) ABOUT THE ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING (A&E) PLANNING AND DESIGN OF BUILDINGS AND THEIR SETTINGS/ ENVIRONS.

so, the best way for them if they want to practice architectural profession is to take the 5-year course of architecture and have take the board exam and if they pass that's the no question for them to practice architecture...

To all CE's there outside, get it in a proper and descent way...have a nice day...

At tungkol naman ki Ebdane na yan,,,di na nkakapagtak yang takbo ng utak nyan dahil dapat sa gubat yan pero napunta sa kabihasnan kaya akala nya yong kalabaw pwede na sa maynila...pulis nsa dpwh...hehehehe...ano ginagawa nyan dyan.

well, on the other hand, have a look sa mga website ng uap and some of its chapters,sa totoo lang guys, halos walang laman, not well updated, in other words ito ba ang ipinapakita natin sa ibang professions, look at PICE website, GOD ang layo sa website ng UAP, i think these conveys a message, i think people from UAP should do their homework, and i think what architects are showing to these CE's are na madali lang ang ginagawa natin. and jobs na pwede na nilang gampanan. architecture in the philippines is really very behind, the academics should be reviewed well. sa members dito na maaring kakilala ako in person, sensya na kung may tatamaang chapter, but i think we should consider a lot of things sa architecture academics and profession. the way philippines look and do at architecture hasnt changed really much. sa mga UAP chapter presidents, i hope you should look very forward, we are just showing to these CE's that we are vulnerable. again to all people comapre UAP and PICE website, if i am wrong, murahin nyo ako.

Napadaan lang and i dont need to argue and i read some thoughts of people here
gumagamit ba ang philipines ng epoxy coated rebars?

feel free to reply

ciaoriki wrote:well, on the other hand, have a look sa mga website ng uap and some of its chapters,sa totoo lang guys, halos walang laman, not well updated, in other words ito ba ang ipinapakita natin sa ibang professions, look at PICE website, GOD ang layo sa website ng UAP, i think these conveys a message, i think people from UAP should do their homework, and i think what architects are showing to these CE's are na madali lang ang ginagawa natin. and jobs na pwede na nilang gampanan. architecture in the philippines is really very behind, the academics should be reviewed well. sa members dito na maaring kakilala ako in person, sensya na kung may tatamaang chapter, but i think we should consider a lot of things sa architecture academics and profession. the way philippines look and do at architecture hasnt changed really much. sa mga UAP chapter presidents, i hope you should look very forward, we are just showing to these CE's that we are vulnerable. again to all people comapre UAP and PICE website, if i am wrong, murahin nyo ako.

may point ka... CE ako pero gusto ko din architecture kaso hina ako sa art eh...
sana parang sa abroad na team-up yung CE at archi (extreme engineering)

^^
Dapat sana ganun, kaso majority ng Filipinos mga self-serving, tingnan mo pag nasa mrt or pila, gusto sisingit ng sisingit, instead na pagbigyan nalang yung mas nuuna sa kanya, pipilit pa talaga na unahan yung tao, katulad din yan sa pag handle sa profession, sa halip na makipag tulungan sa allied professional, ang ginagawa, sinosolo ang trabaho, para mas malaking kita.

Parang yung estado ng bansa natin, dahil majority ng kababayan natin gustong mas mauna sa isa't-isa, ayan napag iwanan na tayo ng ibang bansa.

One of the things that i don't like about fellow Filipinos.

Kaya madaming naka abroad because of this issue parang magiging isa nako duon days from now, hate to say our profession is not well maintained. LAgi nalang pag may nagpapagawa sakin ng design engineer tawag sakin, akala kasi nilang normal na tao basta gumagawa o nagdedesign ng bahay ay engineer ganun na kasi ang nakamulatan nila. tsk!..