How to criticize a work?! (A small discussion)

bokkins wrote:masisira na naman tong thread na to, nang-aaway na naman kasi kayo eh. Kaya ayaw makisali ng iba dito eh, kasi kayong mga old at oldies palaaway talaga.

19BASTE67 wrote:Hindi lahat ng magaling ay magaling at hindi lahat ng hindi magaling ay wlang alam...iisa lang ang dapat isa alang alang ng bawat pumuna sa mga gawa o nakikita ng bawat isa sa katulad ng elektronikong talaan ng mga kasayanan o pagpapakita ng bawat anking galing o talino sa paglikha ng kanilang mga obra o pulidong trabaho sa bawat antas ng kasanayan..Huwag mong pansin ang pumupuna sa sayo bagkus tulungan mo sila hindi ko kailangan ang mamagaling ang kailangan ko ay ang may mga sakit....

cloud20 wrote:

bokkins wrote:masisira na naman tong thread na to, nang-aaway na naman kasi kayo eh. Kaya ayaw makisali ng iba dito eh, kasi kayong mga old at oldies palaaway talaga.

Hehe... This is what I'm reacting to boss. Contrary to what others may think, di po ako namemersonal. But when you say that I'm the cause of something entirely untrue, I will always react & take it personally.

cloud20 wrote:Huwag nyo pong kakalimutan si Heneral Jumong matanda din po kase yun eh baka magtampo po kasi yun.

houdini wrote:Hi guys, newbie here pasingit kunti...ive been following this thread for a while. ok yung takbo ng thread and I understand the objective that when you do critiques, all we want is straight honest to goodness and direct to the point answers. now lets observe American Idol, youve got 3 judges one is a sharp shooter (simon) , yung isa mahilig magpasikot sikot(paula), n yung huli astig kung sumagot(randy). kung kunyare puro simon or randy nalng yung judge, what will you feel? although you have established uniformity pero kulang parin, are we gonna take this critiques way too seriously? to the point we will have to limit what we want to say.

tsaka we are from different character and different behavior A kiss ass comment to others might just be a simpleng acknowledgemnt lang nung nagpadala, a simpleng comment from a critique will sometimes be an assault to the guys credibility. Again no one can classify this from that kasi, tao lang tayo. everybody is entitled to his/her own observation and well, comments. take a look at cgtalk 11secondclub, highend3d, our very own cgpinoy and among others, they were made on the norms establishing a social connection in a virtual world to people who share the same interest, hobbies or profession. I dont think this was made for the main purpose of learning lang. so what's wrong with loosening up? every work you see try to acknowledge man lang yung pinaghirapan niya. try to see what's good with it.

I agree with the 8 points of properly critiquing one's work, but then again these are just the proper way but not the right way
There are many ways to impart wisdom, a sharp barb comment is one, and a simpleng tagay is another one.

cheers,

Houdini

bokkins wrote: Ito naman ang mga suggestions ko on how to critic:
1. point out the mistakes
2. suggest solutions on how to improve them

nice read... makita ko lang tong two items na to sa pagcomment sa akin masaya na ako... Smile pero kung ung number one lang... balewala din ung comment... parang sinabi lang nung nagcomment na "may alam ako... pero hindi kita tuturuan" Smile

v_wrangler wrote:

nice read... makita ko lang tong two items na to sa pagcomment sa akin masaya na ako... Smile pero kung ung number one lang... balewala din ung comment... parang sinabi lang nung nagcomment na "may alam ako... pero hindi kita tuturuan" Smile

Wrong. Wrong Perception.

Even if you got number one you should be thankful someone got the courage to tell you which area your work sucks. I bet in general, girlfriends or wives or daughters or sons or the whole pinoy tribe will never say the same thing for fear of touching upon the precious ego.

So what kung di ka turuan. Does the critic owe you something? Nah.

Most of the time, the mere pointing out is all we need to get those initiative juices flowing. The critic's job is to ellicit your attention about the areas that you might have left out or areas you might have refused to see.

Suggestions about the solutions is just an added bonus.

Finding the solution is actually your part of the equation.

I'll point out you've got a boogie peeping out your nostrils. I don't have to tell you to pick it, pull them out or push them in, neither do I have to pick it for you. You got to do it on your own fast as you could para lalo kang di kahiya-hiya. Same analogy, some people will notice but never say anything to protect you daw from kahihiyan. Well, here's what I say - the longer you've got the boogies in there - mas lalo kayong kahiya hiya!

So thank the person who called thy attention. Simple eh?

Valiant wrote:

well vertex... i respect your opinion... you have to respect mine.

if you will give me that analogy of a boogie... it will still depends on how the other person told me... if he said it with a loud voice... still mapapahiya ako di ba? so you can't compare it to a forums like this... wherein everyone can see the post of other person pointing out a certain person's mistake... kaya sinabi ko na mas mabuting merong solution...

corpsegrinder wrote:

Valiant wrote:

well vertex... i respect your opinion... you have to respect mine.

if you will give me that analogy of a boogie... it will still depends on how the other person told me... if he said it with a loud voice... still mapapahiya ako di ba? so you can't compare it to a forums like this... wherein everyone can see the post of other person pointing out a certain person's mistake... kaya sinabi ko na mas mabuting merong solution...

Ang ibig nyo bang sabihin hndi nirespeto ni vertex ang opinyon nyo???

Its like everytime you respond to vertex opinion, ngmumukhang mahina ang iyong pick-up...

Valiant wrote:

corpsegrinder wrote:

Valiant wrote:

well vertex... i respect your opinion... you have to respect mine.

if you will give me that analogy of a boogie... it will still depends on how the other person told me... if he said it with a loud voice... still mapapahiya ako di ba? so you can't compare it to a forums like this... wherein everyone can see the post of other person pointing out a certain person's mistake... kaya sinabi ko na mas mabuting merong solution...

Ang ibig nyo bang sabihin hndi nirespeto ni vertex ang opinyon nyo???

Its like everytime you respond to vertex opinion, ngmumukhang mahina ang iyong pick-up...

pare wag kang makisawsaw... kung gusto mong magpapogi kay vertex gumawa ka ng sarili mong comment at post...
kung mahina akong pumick-up for you e pagpasensyahan mo na... ganun talaga... hindi pare-pareho ng talino ang bawat tao... nagkataon na mas magaling kang pumick-up sa akin kaya hat's-off sayo.

corpsegrinder wrote:

Valiant wrote:

corpsegrinder wrote:

Valiant wrote:

well vertex... i respect your opinion... you have to respect mine.

if you will give me that analogy of a boogie... it will still depends on how the other person told me... if he said it with a loud voice... still mapapahiya ako di ba? so you can't compare it to a forums like this... wherein everyone can see the post of other person pointing out a certain person's mistake... kaya sinabi ko na mas mabuting merong solution...

Ang ibig nyo bang sabihin hndi nirespeto ni vertex ang opinyon nyo???

Its like everytime you respond to vertex opinion, ngmumukhang mahina ang iyong pick-up...

pare wag kang makisawsaw... kung gusto mong magpapogi kay vertex gumawa ka ng sarili mong comment at post...
kung mahina akong pumick-up for you e pagpasensyahan mo na... ganun talaga... hindi pare-pareho ng talino ang bawat tao... nagkataon na mas magaling kang pumick-up sa akin kaya hat's-off sayo.

hndi tau mgkumpare...

v_wrangler wrote:
I'll point out you've got a boogie peeping out your nostrils. I don't have to tell you to pick it, pull them out or push them in, neither do I have to pick it for you. You got to do it on your own fast as you could para lalo kang di kahiya-hiya. Same analogy, some people will notice but never say anything to protect you daw from kahihiyan. Well, here's what I say - the longer you've got the boogies in there - mas lalo kayong kahiya hiya!

So thank the person who called thy attention. Simple eh?

celes wrote:

v_wrangler wrote:
I'll point out you've got a boogie peeping out your nostrils. I don't have to tell you to pick it, pull them out or push them in, neither do I have to pick it for you. You got to do it on your own fast as you could para lalo kang di kahiya-hiya. Same analogy, some people will notice but never say anything to protect you daw from kahihiyan. Well, here's what I say - the longer you've got the boogies in there - mas lalo kayong kahiya hiya!

So thank the person who called thy attention. Simple eh?

OT: so parang

TITLE of THREAD: Cave Boogie (Practice Mode, with HDRI)

commentator 1: me nakadungaw na boogie sa left kweba niyo po master, IMO lang.

TS: salamat sa pagpuna sir, any tips or suggestions para matanggal?

commentator 1: well maraming ways. pwede ka gumamit ng nipper version 2008 kaso ang drawback niyan baka me masali na buhok sa ilong. i think the best solution is to simply pick it with your right hand finger, pwede rin left kung left handed ka. dont forget na wag ipahid yan sa kung saan saan though. looking forward to your next boogie. keep it up!

commentator 2: nasabi na nila ang comments sir, pero para sa kin sir aprub tong boogie niyo, lufet!

if you will give me that analogy of a boogie... it will still depends on how the other person told me... if he said it with a loud voice... still mapapahiya ako di ba? so you can't compare it to a forums like this... wherein everyone can see the post of other person pointing out a certain person's mistake... kaya sinabi ko na mas mabuting merong solution...

corpsegrinder wrote:

Valiant wrote:

well vertex... i respect your opinion... you have to respect mine.

if you will give me that analogy of a boogie... it will still depends on how the other person told me... if he said it with a loud voice... still mapapahiya ako di ba? so you can't compare it to a forums like this... wherein everyone can see the post of other person pointing out a certain person's mistake... kaya sinabi ko na mas mabuting merong solution...

Ang ibig nyo bang sabihin hndi nirespeto ni vertex ang opinyon nyo???

Its like everytime you respond to vertex opinion, ngmumukhang mahina ang iyong pick-up...