Harsh discussion on CGP

To all CGP members,

Harsh discussion must be limit. Napansin ko lang po mga sir and ma’am dito sa CGP site natin na padami ng padami ang mga harsh na discussion na parang not setting a good example para sa mga newbee ang new member. Napansin ko lang naman po siguro dapat ma aware na tayo dito. im not sensitive kaya ako nag post ito mga Sir.

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maybe someone is just pointing out his own side...in his own ways...but sometimes misunderstood...

I dont think there is a harsh discussion on this site, i think the administrator will not allow it. most of the topic here are open discussion.

meron na din sir ako napansin. and nagulat ako bakit ganun?

i don't na may harsh discussion dito kasi may mga moderator na nagbabantay,saka nag bibigay sila ng warning pag mainit or di na maganda ang usapan...

wrong section.

meron naman tayo degree of tolerance na pinapairal, so ok lang ang mga discussions at debate na nasa forum right now. If we limit ourselves so much, mawawalan na tayo ng room for improvement. kaya it's just normal for a discussion to be very interesting.

ang kinaiinisan lang naming mga moderators are those using text speak and jejemon language. yun ang hindi magandang example. what we are trying to do is to help every member write right. when you are in a corporate world, hindi ka uubra pag jejemon ka.

to sum it all, mas madami pa talagang dapat pagtuunan ng pansin rather than this.

and lastly pala, I've noticed basta basta nalang nagpopost ang mga bago without even reading the rules and guidelines. we welcome everyone, but we also need to respect a set of simple rules to enjoy our forum.

max_12553 wrote:To all CGP members,

Harsh discussion must be limit. Napansin ko lang po mga sir and ma’am dito sa CGP site natin na padami ng padami ang mga harsh na discussion na parang not setting a good example para sa mga newbee ang new member. Napansin ko lang naman po siguro dapat ma aware na tayo dito. im not sensitive kaya ako nag post ito mga Sir.

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i don't know how you define "harsh discussion" if you could enlighten us on this... so far wala akong nakikitang harsh discussion...
if you mean heated arguments on some threads then master bokks has answered your question...
in debates that's where we squeeze out juicy infos, pero pag tangu-an lang or ilingan, alaws tayo matutunan...
Irrelevant din yung statement na "not setting a good example" sama nga pakinggan... i don't know why we always dwell on our sensitive side... balat-sibuyas... instead of dealing with the positive side...
haaay...

baka siguro nahighblood lang ang ibang members while making a comment. haha.

di bale, we will try to educate everyone on how a debate should be done. although hindi ako magaling sa ganun, but i think we should learn it. Like there should be research involve, laying relevant issues that will help your statement. listening to feed back and stuff. para mas orderly tayo.

drawback nito, para tayo magiging senado at congreso na walang napapala at humahaba lang ang discussions dahil madaming magagaling magpaikot ikot ng salita. haha.

Pero at least we learn from it.

bokkins wrote:baka siguro nahighblood lang ang ibang members while making a comment. haha.

di bale, we will try to educate everyone on how a debate should be made. although hindi ako magaling sa ganun, but i think we should learn it. Like there should be research involve, laying relevant issues that will help your statement. listening to feed back and stuff. para mas orderly tayo.

drawback nito, para tayo magiging senado at congreso na walang napapala at humahaba lang ang discussions dahil madaming magagaling magpaikot ikot ng salita. haha.

Pero at least we learn from it.

sometimes talaga bro, di maiwasang di-magpakita ng emotion, kahit na virtual lng tung community natin pero tunay na tao din naman tayong mga gumagala dito. Kaya't kung pano tayo nagbe-behave sa totoong mundo, ganun din tayo dito... iba't-ibang character, identity, etc...
di naman natin kelangan ng formal na debate, as long na tuloy-tuloy lang yung flow ng discussion, nandun din yung flow ng information, kahit na ihambing pa natin yan sa congreso or sa senado gaano man kahaba yung talakayan, madami din tayong natutunan... actually habang humahaba nga yung usapan dun din natin nakikita yung pros and cons at kung anu at sino yung dapat nating paniniwalaan...
except lang cguro kung humaba yung usapan at walang katuturan na yung mga pinag-uusapan... out of the topic na talaga... actually the moderators are doing a good job pag dating sa mga OT at yung tipong nagbabangayan at nagpepersonalan na yung mga members... bilis ng action, andun agad... so far they've shown objectiveness and most important of all, fairness sa lahat... good job guys

Bottomline meron tayong natutunan... at the end of the day yung mga bagay na natutunan natin ang mag pu-push satin to the next level...

di bale, we will try to educate everyone on how a debate should be done. although hindi ako magaling sa ganun, but i think we should learn it. Like there should be research involve, laying relevant issues that will help your statement. listening to feed back and stuff. para mas orderly tayo.

I agree to this sir Bokkins..the best po yan..For me this is not just a simple forum so we must be aware of everything..before we express something we should think first if this would be benefecial for everyone..actually CGP can change our life physically and emotionally and we should appreciate that. This is not an easy task for the Operators and Moderators to handle this forum as a community.Actually we are in a CGP Nation, we live in a different world and finding our way for a better tomorrow...More power CGP!

I like the way you response sir Silvercrown...even for this kind of medium you can lay your explainations effectively and with basis.

enough as of now...Back to work,hehe...

maybe harsh lng sila kon minsan. pero constructive criticism ang binibigay we should learn from our mistake kasi iba iba tayong pananaw sa mga gawa natin that why mayroon site na katulad nito para mag ka isa tayot mag tulongan........

mabuhay ang dugong noypi mga kabayan!!!!!

si Cloud20 ibang klase. matapang masyado at mayabang. akala nya masisindak nya lahat kayabangan nya. sabi pa "pag sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko, bibigyan kita ng sideline." tama ba sabihin yun? dami pa sya di maganda sinasabi.

yaketore wrote:si Cloud20 ibang klase. matapang masyado at mayabang. akala nya masisindak nya lahat kayabangan nya. sabi pa "pag sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko, bibigyan kita ng sideline." tama ba sabihin yun? dami pa sya di maganda sinasabi.

I guess, sir cloud did not mean that literally, sometimes you have to read in between the lines, to understand a statement well.

OFFTOPIC:
Pwedeng pakipalitan yung avatar mo, masyadong mainit sa mata.

may nabasa din ako once sa isang bagong member na direct insult yung comment sa TS/poster, medyo di maganda at kakakulo ng dugo, i mean nakakadiscourage pag baguhan ka lang na nagpopost ng gawa mo, tapos negative yung comment instead na positive way.

yaketore wrote:si Cloud20 ibang klase. matapang masyado at mayabang. akala nya masisindak nya lahat kayabangan nya. sabi pa "pag sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko, bibigyan kita ng sideline." tama ba sabihin yun? dami pa sya di maganda sinasabi.

di naman sir, prangka lang at direct to the point siya... at para sakin mas ok yun... mas marami ako matututunan....positive ang dating skin kaya dahil dun mas pag-iigihan ko pa next time...

chill

yaketore wrote:si Cloud20 ibang klase. matapang masyado at mayabang. akala nya masisindak nya lahat kayabangan nya. sabi pa "pag sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko, bibigyan kita ng sideline." tama ba sabihin yun? dami pa sya di maganda sinasabi.

RE: BUNGALO FIRST POST
Pasyal ka sa bodega tiga Angeles ka naman pala; kahit anong itanong mo pipilitin kong sagutin wag lang math...

Tas pag medyo sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko bigyan na kita ng sideline...

This is my full unedited comment to the TS on that particular thread... It is an open invitation to the TS to come to my workplace para kahit papano may maishare ako sa kanya... May kasamang patawa pa yan ha wag lang math kako dahil napaka bobo ko sa math...
The last line was made in all honesty; mainitin talaga ang ulo ko... But if you read between the lines (pahiram sir Ed) ibig sabihin niyan matagal na siya nagpupunta sa kin; sanay na sa ugali ko eh... By that time i guess may natutunan na siya so pwede ko na bigyan ng gilid paminsan minsan is there anything wrong with that?... Binigyan ko pa nga ng incentive na magpunta sa kin eh... And this is all because I want to help plain & simple...

Eto lang kung nayayabangan ka sa kin sir, don't read my comments. Simple as that. You won't learn anything from them naman eh coz from the onset nega na kagad ang dating sa iyo... Chaka mayabang lang naman talaga ako dahil sa avatar ko at least yan nayayakap ko pag malamig ang gabi; hindi ko dala dala lang sa banyo at binabasa-tinitingnan lang habang jumejebs.

Now try to retrace your steps from when you first started to learn how to walk. Somewhere along that path you dropped something. Perhaps if you look carefully while retracing your steps you might find out where you dropped it; you just haven't noticed for a long time coz you rarely use it...

@ sir genesis - minsan may mga troll members, nagpaparegister lang dito para mang inis at mang gulo,,

genesisg23 wrote:may nabasa din ako once sa isang bagong member na direct insult yung comment sa TS/poster, medyo di maganda at kakakulo ng dugo, i mean nakakadiscourage pag baguhan ka lang na nagpopost ng gawa mo, tapos negative yung comment instead na positive way.

kung madidiscourage ka, talo ka. mas malupit pa dyan pag client mo na ang nagcomment. kailangan mo lang tibayan ang loob mo. madami na akong experiences sa ganyan, minsan hinahamon pa ang pagiging architect natin. We have doctors na client, they're hard to please and you can't just give a lousy reason to your mediocre work. Panindigan mo talaga ang design mo. You have to fight back, Wag ka papasipa lang ng basta basta, but you have to calculate your actions too. It should be a win win situation. That's where you need to think alot. Ganun lang yun bro. Fighting back doesnt always mean war. There are so many other ways to do it. Pwedeng paawa effect ka, or kaibiganin mo. or debate kayo. So many ways, offensive and defensive.

yaketore wrote:si Cloud20 ibang klase. matapang masyado at mayabang. akala nya masisindak nya lahat kayabangan nya. sabi pa "pag sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko, bibigyan kita ng sideline." tama ba sabihin yun? dami pa sya di maganda sinasabi.

basahin mo kasi lahat, pag excepts lang, masyadong misleading yan.

I like cloud not because mas matanda sya sakin, but because prangka sya parang boy abunda. baka mayabang sya kung minsan kasi englisero. pro kung babasahin mo talaga ng maigi ang mga comments nya. may point eh. Sometimes kasi it hard to see our own mistakes, most of the time, ibang tao talaga ang nakakapuna nito. and that's hard to accept lalo na pag mapride ka. pro once natanggap mo na, dito na papasok ang pagbabago.

cloud20 wrote:

yaketore wrote:si Cloud20 ibang klase. matapang masyado at mayabang. akala nya masisindak nya lahat kayabangan nya. sabi pa "pag sanay ka na sa init ng ulo ko, bibigyan kita ng sideline." tama ba sabihin yun? dami pa sya di maganda sinasabi.

... Chaka mayabang lang naman talaga ako dahil sa avatar ko at least yan nayayakap ko pag malamig ang gabi; hindi ko dala dala lang sa banyo at binabasa-tinitingnan lang habang jumejebs.
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sir di po ako tomboy! meron din akong nayayakap kapag malamig.

you are just playing safe...

chillax lang. newbie lang po kami, mga kuya at mga ate namin kayo. do guide us.

share ko lang itong nabasa ko from redvertex sa evermotion tutorials mga katulad kung newbies!!
eto ngayun yung motto ko sa pagrerender!
"Everything is subjective when it comes to color correction and
post-production because everyone perceives colors differently
and sees things in his own way. The main thing is to be critical of your work,
and of course learn from the best to become one of them."
one of them na tinutukoy dito,,syempre ang mga guro natin at mga mahuhusay dito sa cgworld!!
kaya sa mga newbie kagaya ko huwag po tayung matakot magpost nang gawa natin

"The successful man will profit from his mistakes
and try again in a different way."

ok tong post mo dwin. dapat ganyan ang newbie na sinasabi nyo. being a newbie doesn't mean being weak and lame. it's a very different idea of a newbie. newbies should even be stronger, parang sa PMA, kung sino ang bago sila ang bugbog sarado. Sana maintindihan nyo yun. Swerte nyo pa nga dito, alagang alaga kayo. I'm not sure lang kung nafefeel nyo yun. You get almost everything you want.

bokkins wrote:
basahin mo kasi lahat, pag excepts lang, masyadong misleading yan.

I like cloud not because mas matanda sya sakin, but because prangka sya parang boy abunda. baka mayabang sya kung minsan kasi englisero. pro kung babasahin mo talaga ng maigi ang mga comments nya. may point eh. Sometimes kasi it hard to see our own mistakes, most of the time, ibang tao talaga ang nakakapuna nito. and that's hard to accept lalo na pag mapride ka. pro once natanggap mo na, dito na papasok ang pagbabago.

si cloud, "prangka sya parang boy abunda" at inglisero parang c kris aquino , sa kabuu-an "the buzz" yan! hehehe cheers master cloud!
gaya ng sabi ni master arkied, "read between the lines" di dapat literal ang interpretation... pag si cloud ang nagsulat minsan mamamangha ka sa style nya, sometimes he's poetic, minsan naman satiric and all the time acerbic
gaya ng sinabi ni master bokks preparation na rin yang comments dito mapa-harsh man yan, pag kliyente na kaharap mo prangkahan na yan, sasabihin nila gusto nilang sabihin lalo na't binabayaran ka... kung masyado kang sensitive you won't survive... baka ma-depress ka lang... dapat malakas yung loob mo, i-defend mo at i-justify mo yung mga bagay na kelangan mong i-defend at i-justify, wag papasindak... kaya't iwasan na ring gumawa ng mga bagay na di mo kayang i-depensa...

Ayun oh, ako nanaman nakita ng dalawa oh, ayun oh inumpisahan na nga ng isa kinumpleto pa ng isa mga walang galang sa matatanda araykupo...

As to bos Bok's & the Cajun's "depensa" litany; it's what I preach dito sa forum & even sa workplace namin. Truth: first timers in our workplace cry the first day once i get to them. Bibigyan ko talaga yan at mapapaiyak pero while I'm doing it I tell them to defend themselves. Preparation yan sa naghihintay sa kanila when they go out for themselves. Yung mga nagsi "graduate" ko na dito sa work, you can ask them what kind of kuya-tatay I really am... You have to make people "feel". If its anger I evoke, fine basta ba afterwards may matutunan. Eto sample ko somewhere here sa forums;
"RE: Acad to Max..pa improve po
Well & good sir (sir na lang nasita na ako ni Corpsegrider eh) Caleb pero don't just bow & kowtow to the masters (di ako kasali dyan) or the older (ouch ako yan) members; i-explain mo rin kung bakit naging ganoon ang images, try to defend yourself kase para sa iyo maganda naman yang mga yan di ba para mas dynamic ang sharing of ideas... Impart to them where you're coming from & your frame of mind when you created these works...
Two-way man, two-way..."

To mam (mam pala eh diko naman alam kala ko guy ka sukat ba namang ilagay mong avatar e pang-guy) Yuckytore, find time to peruse all of my posts, di naman po lahat pangyayabang... Well, almost lahat pangyayabang (bwiset) pero meron din naman pong mangilan ilan na matino. And for the record; I never play safe. I tell it like I see it & how I want it when I want it. You've never seen rogue till you meet me. And about "chillaxin" (you're sooo up to datey huh), when my mother was malignantly pregnant with moi, she was working at a cryonics institute somewhere in Michigan. She gave birth to me there, with all that deep icy cold temp around. Ergo, I got ice in my veins my dear. I'm ALWAYS chillaxed.

Oi master Silvercrown hanapin mo nga yang si mam Sylvialatorre at dalhin mo sa kin dito at nang makurot sa si...ko... Jusko ang laki ng canada mahanap mo kaya?...