English Scaling help............

Mga sir hingi po sana ako ng tulong on how to determine and use the english systemsa cad..
hindi ko po kasi malaman kung anong scale tong nasa image na to....
bale gagawin ko po yung roofplan.elevations and section nyan...gawa na po yun floor plan niraster ko nlang..
Sir ano ba scale nito and what english scale ang gagamitin ko for the other architectural plans?......
nasa 579x800 po yung size ng image..

sir mukang scheme naman po, walang scale, hindi rin rpoportioned based sa measurements na nakalagay under sa names ng space/rooms. may nakalagay "used 1:70", cnu po nagsulat nun?,, base your measurements n lng po sa mga nakasulat, sure po akong hindi scaled ung drawing..

anthony_als wrote:sir mukang scheme naman po, walang scale, hindi rin rpoportioned based sa measurements na nakalagay under sa names ng space/rooms. may nakalagay "used 1:70", cnu po nagsulat nun?,, base your measurements n lng po sa mga nakasulat, sure po akong hindi scaled ung drawing..

sir scheme lang po yan...exam po namin yan kaya ganyan...eh ang sabi kasi fit to paper size sir kaya ang ginawa ko eh kinonvert ko sa metric kasi in mm yung titleblck namin...yung 1:70 sir is yung scale nyan if its ni metric system...sir alm nyu po ba kung ano ang equicalent nu 1:70 na yun in english system?

nasa image naman bro yung mga dimensions eh..kung anu area ng bawat room..sundin mo na lng....di tlga proportioned yung drawing..scheme nga yan na may indication ng dim..convert mo na lng bro..sana makatulong.. gudluck..

gamer_11 wrote:nasa image naman bro yung mga dimensions eh..kung anu area ng bawat room..sundin mo na lng....di tlga proportioned yung drawing..scheme nga yan na may indication ng dim..convert mo na lng bro..sana makatulong.. gudluck..

yup sir yun nga ang ginawa ko kinonvert ko then overide nalang....in english kasi kelangan eh hindi ko alam idertermin pag scale in english

ishae_clanx wrote:

anthony_als wrote:sir mukang scheme naman po, walang scale, hindi rin rpoportioned based sa measurements na nakalagay under sa names ng space/rooms. may nakalagay "used 1:70", cnu po nagsulat nun?,, base your measurements n lng po sa mga nakasulat, sure po akong hindi scaled ung drawing..

sir scheme lang po yan...exam po namin yan kaya ganyan...eh ang sabi kasi fit to paper size sir kaya ang ginawa ko eh kinonvert ko sa metric kasi in mm yung titleblck namin...yung 1:70 sir is yung scale nyan if its ni metric system...sir alm nyu po ba kung ano ang equicalent nu 1:70 na yun in english system?

bro yung 1:70 is scale lang yan ng drawing..gagwin mo pa rin yung drawing in natural way na sukat..then scale mo ng 1:70 yung drawing sa paper size...1:70 is mas malaki kaysa 1:100

ah, ok. magkaiba scaling ng metric at english, ang metric kc proportion by hundreds. ang english is kumbaga direct scaling, for example 1/4inch=1foot, ganyan nila iniscale. kaya if you draw a line mesuring 1/4 of an inch, in actual scale it will be equivalent to 1 foot. yung ang sa pagkakalam ko, base sa turo sa amin sa SLU. kuha nyo po explanation ko?

gamer_11 wrote:

ishae_clanx wrote:

anthony_als wrote:sir mukang scheme naman po, walang scale, hindi rin rpoportioned based sa measurements na nakalagay under sa names ng space/rooms. may nakalagay "used 1:70", cnu po nagsulat nun?,, base your measurements n lng po sa mga nakasulat, sure po akong hindi scaled ung drawing..

sir scheme lang po yan...exam po namin yan kaya ganyan...eh ang sabi kasi fit to paper size sir kaya ang ginawa ko eh kinonvert ko sa metric kasi in mm yung titleblck namin...yung 1:70 sir is yung scale nyan if its ni metric system...sir alm nyu po ba kung ano ang equicalent nu 1:70 na yun in english system?

bro yung 1:70 is scale lang yan ng drawing..gagwin mo pa rin yung drawing in natural way na sukat..then scale mo ng 1:70 yung drawing sa paper size...1:70 is mas malaki kaysa 1:100

ok sir ganun na nga lang tpos dayain ko nalng...overide ulit....eh sir pano yung scale,,,,ang given sa scheme is in english kya dapat yung scale din sa ibang dwgs is english din?
dun ako naguguluhan sir..kung ano yung equivalent ng 1:70 sa english?

anthony_als wrote:ah, ok. magkaiba scaling ng metric at english, ang metric kc proportion by hundreds. ang english is kumbaga direct scaling, for example 1/4inch=1foot, ganyan nila iniscale. kaya if you draw a line mesuring 1/4 of an inch, in actual scale it will be equivalent to 1 foot. yung ang sa pagkakalam ko, base sa turo sa amin sa SLU. kuha nyo po explanation ko?

ah ok sir..gets ko sir...nasanay kasi sa metric since nung first year...ngyun lang ulit napalaman sa english system....slu din pla kayu sir..hehehhe si arch lledo din pa cad nyu nun sir?

alam ko na, kung may metric scale po kau ng 1:70, itapat nyo un mesurement ng 1 foot equivalent (which is .3metrs ba?)sa english ruler, for example lumabas is 3/4 of an inch ang magiging english convertion ng 1:70 is 3/4inch=1foot, ganyan po isulat ang english scale, hindi tulad ng metric na 1:100.

opo, mbait sa grade sa kanya lng ako nakakuha ng line of 9, hehehe, sa CAD. dont wori, mkang tama ang cnabi ko kc cya ang nagturo ng english scaling sa amin. yan ung explanation nya sa amin.

anthony_als wrote:opo, mbait sa grade sa kanya lng ako nakakuha ng line of 9, hehehe, sa CAD. dont wori, mkang tama ang cnabi ko kc cya ang nagturo ng english scaling sa amin. yan ung explanation nya sa amin.

ah ok sir....medyo ginaglingan ko yung cad ko sakanya....bad trip daw kasi sya dun sa mga kaklase ko....line of nine sir...hindi na ata nagbibigay ngyun ng ganun yun eh....atlist nagbibigay pa naman sya ng 86+ pero line of 9 madalng na talga

ngek, mahigpit cya ngaun ah. cguro tumataas na standards nya. dati hindi eh, mga maliit na modelling lng pinapagawa nya, nagresidential lng nung final plate na. gudluck sir.

@ishae
here is the link bro...
http://www.vtc.com/products/AutodeskAutoCAD2009CertifiedAssociate/BasicDrawingSkills/77487

now you can type directly those feet and inches sa sketch... for example you have a room 5'6" x 3'5" just type in the command line >>> @5'6",3'5" hope it helps... mas mabuti na rin bro kung create new drawing ka muna then select imperial then go to dimension style > primary units > architectural...

kietsmark wrote:@ishae
here is the link bro...
http://www.vtc.com/products/AutodeskAutoCAD2009CertifiedAssociate/BasicDrawingSkills/77487

now you can type directly those feet and inches sa sketch... for example you have a room 5'6" x 3'5" just type in the command line >>> @5'6",3'5" hope it helps... mas mabuti na rin bro kung create new drawing ka muna then select imperial then go to dimension style > primary units > architectural...

ayun eh..thanks sir...great help to...noted yung sinabi nyu im starting with a new 1...

-you can change the unit for your convenience to architectural and start plotting the room dimension as provided. the dimension for the room is just a reference only, guide for room sizes. it may be a bit larger or a bit smaller. consider some utilities that might not fit on the room

-for dimensioning, takes kietsmark advice.

-scale 1:70 is for your viewport scale only

-heres what i came out for the image you have, it may or maybe that way depending on your professor instruction and requirements.

layout 1


layout2


as for layout 1 the open space is quite large and is not practically, so it was adjusted on layout 2, adjust the sizes if necessary anyway its just a studies, just nothing to do habang nagkakape.

@ishae
i forgot hehehe dont forget to include the CHB as well... 6" thick for exterior and 4" thick for interior walls.

@rendermaster
thanks a lot for those images

salamat render master...nagabala pa kayu....great help.....problema ko lang sir kung anong ilalagay kong scale nya...updat ko nalng once nagawa yung sugestion ni sir kietsmark........

kietsmark wrote:@ishae
i forgot hehehe dont forget to include the CHB as well... 6" thick for exterior and 4" thick for interior walls.

@rendermaster
thanks a lot for those images

uy salamat sa pahabol sir......

ishae_clanx wrote:salamat render master...nagabala pa kayu....great help.....problema ko lang sir kung anong ilalagay kong scale nya...updat ko nalng once nagawa yung sugestion ni sir kietsmark........

eto yan sir, i bet you know how to scale in viewport

about sa scaling bro... you can try this... please correct me if i am wrong...

1. go to paperspace > TM enter then type "0" or click the layout button na lang hehehe
2. type "MS" enter >>> to activate modelspace in paperspace then type "Z" then enter >>> type 10/700xp then enter
3. the logic is... 10/10xp will give you 1:1 printout so 10/100xp is 1:10, 10/200 is 1:20, and so on...

i will check din ung working drawings ko sa bahay to confirm this... dati kasi english system ang gamit ko sa previous work ko... i hope makatulong...

kietsmark wrote:about sa scaling bro... you can try this... please correct me if i am wrong...

1. go to paperspace > TM enter then type "0" or click the layout button na lang hehehe
2. type "MS" enter >>> to activate modelspace in paperspace then type "Z" then enter >>> type 10/700xp then enter
3. the logic is... 10/10xp will give you 1:1 printout so 10/100xp is 1:10, 10/200 is 1:20, and so on...

i will check din ung working drawings ko sa bahay to confirm this... dati kasi english system ang gamit ko sa previous work ko... i hope makatulong...

very helful to sir....add ko to sa notes ko....
@sir rendermaster....thanks po talga with the images..mas madali kong naunawaan kung pano yung approach

kietsmark wrote:about sa scaling bro... you can try this... please correct me if i am wrong...

1. go to paperspace > TM enter then type "0" or click the layout button na lang hehehe
2. type "MS" enter >>> to activate modelspace in paperspace then type "Z" then enter >>> type 10/700xp then enter
3. the logic is... 10/10xp will give you 1:1 printout so 10/100xp is 1:10, 10/200 is 1:20, and so on...

i will check din ung working drawings ko sa bahay to confirm this... dati kasi english system ang gamit ko sa previous work ko... i hope makatulong...

sir pano na when it comes to english....pano mo yung iscale?

@ishae
yan na rin un bro...
in order for you to test kung tama ung scaling na binigay ko...
1. go to dimension style then enable mo ung display alternate units sa "alternate units tab"
2. create a rectangle muna say 5'x5' then plot mo by using 10/500xp (1:50) or kung ano ung gusto mo scale mo kung tama sa 1:50

kietsmark wrote:about sa scaling bro... you can try this... please correct me if i am wrong...

1. go to paperspace > TM enter then type "0" or click the layout button na lang hehehe
2. type "MS" enter >>> to activate modelspace in paperspace then type "Z" then enter >>> type 10/700xp then enter
3. the logic is... 10/10xp will give you 1:1 printout so 10/100xp is 1:10, 10/200 is 1:20, and so on...

i will check din ung working drawings ko sa bahay to confirm this... dati kasi english system ang gamit ko sa previous work ko... i hope makatulong...

to add.....just activate the viewport toolbar. pagcreate mo ng viewport sa paperspcae, makikita mo kaagad sa viewport toolbar kung anong scale ng viewport ang need mo..