CGP Community Project # 1
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CGP Community Project # 1
First topic message reminder :
Thanks eyecon for this suggestion: Nakahighlight ang stages ng process and copied to the next reply. sundan nalang natin.
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
I was inspired by bokkins post of the Stormbirds cinematic and was tempted to propose this. I figured out that instead of just thinking about it, we should do something about it para at least things would move forward... so here is my suggestion
Lets create a new thread that will hold the community project which is an animated short which will run at least 30 seconds to 3 minutes nothing more. This is how I planned it will go.
1. Create the thread
2. Start the thread with suggestions for the theme, a theme that is simple and nothing fancy, no story needed just pure visualization and effects. (we don't want it looking like an arki presentation right?) This will run for I don't know 1-2 months? Or until we agree on the theme.
3. create the concept art, everyone, all ideas na related sa theme are ok. after which we will vote for the best concepts to create into models and environments.
4. Pre-visualization and rough animatics para makikita ng lahat kung ano ang mangyayari and all will have an idea what to do.
5. Modelling and creation of the "hero" elements to be assigned to individuals na gustong gumawa.
6. Rough compositing for semi final visualization
7. Finalization of models and environments and effects
8. Final Compositing
9. Creating a movie
10. Celebration for work done!
This will be done without deadlines and at your own pace and by any member na willing. We can all individually contribute any element and tulungan pa tayo in producing a film that will give us hands on production experience at the same time enjoy pa! This will also bring discipline to newbies in the industry and help them maintain overall quality in their work.
So kailngan lng dito ay simulan na at commitment. Thats it !
LETS DOOOOOO THIS!
Thanks eyecon for this suggestion: Nakahighlight ang stages ng process and copied to the next reply. sundan nalang natin.
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
I was inspired by bokkins post of the Stormbirds cinematic and was tempted to propose this. I figured out that instead of just thinking about it, we should do something about it para at least things would move forward... so here is my suggestion
Lets create a new thread that will hold the community project which is an animated short which will run at least 30 seconds to 3 minutes nothing more. This is how I planned it will go.
1. Create the thread
2. Start the thread with suggestions for the theme, a theme that is simple and nothing fancy, no story needed just pure visualization and effects. (we don't want it looking like an arki presentation right?) This will run for I don't know 1-2 months? Or until we agree on the theme.
3. create the concept art, everyone, all ideas na related sa theme are ok. after which we will vote for the best concepts to create into models and environments.
4. Pre-visualization and rough animatics para makikita ng lahat kung ano ang mangyayari and all will have an idea what to do.
5. Modelling and creation of the "hero" elements to be assigned to individuals na gustong gumawa.
6. Rough compositing for semi final visualization
7. Finalization of models and environments and effects
8. Final Compositing
9. Creating a movie
10. Celebration for work done!
This will be done without deadlines and at your own pace and by any member na willing. We can all individually contribute any element and tulungan pa tayo in producing a film that will give us hands on production experience at the same time enjoy pa! This will also bring discipline to newbies in the industry and help them maintain overall quality in their work.
So kailngan lng dito ay simulan na at commitment. Thats it !
LETS DOOOOOO THIS!
Last edited by bokkins on Tue Feb 17, 2009 8:57 am; edited 2 times in total
Re: CGP Community Project # 1
guys im doing a very short story board now, i'll post it soon. Kung meron kayong designs sa planes please post it here too.
Re: CGP Community Project # 1
may maitutulong b ko? i like to participate... just let me know...
BoySkan- Smooth Criminal
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
ako din.....
pwede?
pwede?
denz_arki2008- Punk Zappa
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BoySkan, denz_arki2008:
Hey guys! Of Course! You can join just state what you want to do. As of the moment we are still on the concept stage. You can think of any design of a seconf world war plane but with a modern twist and post it here. You might also think of other designs, skies the limit man!
Once again thanks for the support and welcome aboard!
Hey guys! Of Course! You can join just state what you want to do. As of the moment we are still on the concept stage. You can think of any design of a seconf world war plane but with a modern twist and post it here. You might also think of other designs, skies the limit man!
Once again thanks for the support and welcome aboard!
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simulan na eto....
guys sino may midi na roaming jet fighter. hehehehe...
im doing a scripts for now para sa story board layout, but wait ko din kay eyecon baka mas maganda.
guys sino may midi na roaming jet fighter. hehehehe...
im doing a scripts for now para sa story board layout, but wait ko din kay eyecon baka mas maganda.
render master- Game Master
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
render master wrote:simulan na eto....
guys sino may midi na roaming jet fighter. hehehehe...
im doing a scripts for now para sa story board layout, but wait ko din kay eyecon baka mas maganda.
HAHAHA dude don't wait for me, we need all the ideas we can and if you have then lets do it! The more ideas the better and we can even combine them para mas astig! After all this is not a one man project its a project for all! I'm looking forward to your banner (wala pa yung sa akin... busy sa wokr eh) and you storyboards...
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Pa share naman po ng idea on how to pump the cinematography on this one..
Perhaps we could make it 40 seconds to have atleast 10 secs of peaceful scene where we can show our title and some captions. Let's do what sir Tor mentioned...a flyby on a forrest for 10 secs..then the CGP plane will pass by at lightning speeds dragging the camera and producing the shake..then the three other planes would follow and afterwhich we could show the whole chase scene. Do some colse ups on the planes...so on and so forth.
Gusto ko sana tu,ulong visually kaso la ako alam sa Max hehe..But if ever you decided to use live footage to have realistic camera movements, I can do the matchmoving since I already used jet models on live action scenes.
If ever tulong nalang ako sa sound mixing/editing once all the visuals are in place. Nice project BTW hehe
Perhaps we could make it 40 seconds to have atleast 10 secs of peaceful scene where we can show our title and some captions. Let's do what sir Tor mentioned...a flyby on a forrest for 10 secs..then the CGP plane will pass by at lightning speeds dragging the camera and producing the shake..then the three other planes would follow and afterwhich we could show the whole chase scene. Do some colse ups on the planes...so on and so forth.
Gusto ko sana tu,ulong visually kaso la ako alam sa Max hehe..But if ever you decided to use live footage to have realistic camera movements, I can do the matchmoving since I already used jet models on live action scenes.
If ever tulong nalang ako sa sound mixing/editing once all the visuals are in place. Nice project BTW hehe
Alicecocoz- CGP Apprentice
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
i think 1 munite is just enough to show what we have. posting the script on monday and the teaser ( sir bokks plugs ko na here ang teaser )
render master- Game Master
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I just thought I should paste this here as well.
this is just a suggestion for the plane design. a retro sci-fi concept comes to my mind.. something in line with the movie Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow or a pc game that I used to play, Crimson Skies.
designs like these experimental WWII warbirds:
American Curtiss XP-55 Ascender
Japanese J7W1 Shinden
and from Crimson Skies:
or even Wing Commander's Rapier:
I hope this will inspire some concepts for the project.
Cheers
this is just a suggestion for the plane design. a retro sci-fi concept comes to my mind.. something in line with the movie Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow or a pc game that I used to play, Crimson Skies.
designs like these experimental WWII warbirds:
American Curtiss XP-55 Ascender
Japanese J7W1 Shinden
and from Crimson Skies:
or even Wing Commander's Rapier:
I hope this will inspire some concepts for the project.
Cheers
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Alicecocoz: mmmmm 40 minutes is okay well see bo, you know you can also create a rough storyboard para me time frame tayo, pag kinapos eh di lets make it longer, pero at least we try to limit it to 30 seconds. It all depends on each scene eh, basta not so dragging, after all this is " in the works" pa naman... everyhting is open to changes...
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ok lang kahit mahaba.. dadaan pa naman sa editing and stuff.. basta parang cinematic ang dating.
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this is a great project!
boks, i suggest we organize things first. let's create a production team before we proceed with the fun part para may governing body. otherwise kanya kanya na naman ng tirada at mauuwi na naman sa wala just like before.
1. who's the team leader/director?
2. modellers?
3. animators?
4. texture artists?
5. lighting & visual effects specialists?
6. writers?
7. janitor
8. etc
then we make a work program para may schedule tayong sinusunod. let's make a list of those who want to help according to specialisation then divide the work once the script & the storyboard is done.
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this is a great project!
boks, i suggest we organize things first. let's create a production team before we proceed with the fun part para may governing body. otherwise kanya kanya na naman ng tirada at mauuwi na naman sa wala just like before.
1. who's the team leader/director?
2. modellers?
3. animators?
4. texture artists?
5. lighting & visual effects specialists?
6. writers?
7. janitor
8. etc
then we make a work program para may schedule tayong sinusunod. let's make a list of those who want to help according to specialisation then divide the work once the script & the storyboard is done.
.
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:.
this is a great project!
boks, i suggest we organize things first. let's create a production team before we proceed with the fun part para may governing body. otherwise kanya kanya na naman ng tirada at mauuwi na naman sa wala just like before.
1. who's the team leader/director?
2. modellers?
3. animators?
4. texture artists?
5. lighting & visual effects specialists?
6. writers?
7. janitor
8. etc
then we make a work program para may schedule tayong sinusunod. let's make a list of those who want to help according to specialisation then divide the work once the script & the storyboard is done.
.
Thanks for the suggestion dude. We were getting to that. So far we don't have any of those things yet since we don't have a concrete storyboard or concepts. That has been given out and sort of a free for all thing muna and vote for the best idea that may come in. I was thinking of having all these ideas placed on the table first then we can decide on the team leads after. That way walang pressure and ideas can freely pour in.
As for scheduling, well the initial plan was to not have any deadline, but having a schedule might come in handy too.
And BTW if you have any concepts for the plane, or storyboard ideas, feel free to post them
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eyecon01 wrote:Alicecocoz: mmmmm 40 minutes is okay well see bo, you know you can also create a rough storyboard para me time frame tayo, pag kinapos eh di lets make it longer, pero at least we try to limit it to 30 seconds. It all depends on each scene eh, basta not so dragging, after all this is " in the works" pa naman... everyhting is open to changes...
No problem bro, kung d busy this weekend I might do a movie much like as a story board.
Alicecocoz- CGP Apprentice
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
i think better a to start muna sa isang simple and short animation/movie. mahirap kapag nagprolong tayo tapus di naman matatapus. im posting here a simple scripts, teaser effect lang muna, improvised na lng kung may idadagdag, movie introduction via teaser ang dating.... post ko requierement sooner kung ano magiging tema ng scene like the improvised warplane model.
THE SCRIPTS.
CGP Community Project 01
Title: Codename CGP
Genre: action/drama/fiction
Lenght: 1 minute
Plot: A time of conflict between warrying nation, theres a war-torn place wherein all people suffered a lot from enemies occupations, bombing, rattling gun, zooming missiles, and more, all side by side storming the entire place. One man arises in the midst of it, a burning desires to defend his people led him to fight with the only weapon he have...his brain and heart. Injured and exhausted and with some primitive tools in hand he was able to fixed one warplane that accidentally crash on his place. Studied everything all by himself with the help of some old manuals he find on the warplane cabin. With some adventurous action in the air, land and water, he successfully defend the place from the entire enemies. His people dont know him. They just seen him along the street begging for a living. Now they are proud that this man become thier only hope. They call him only with a Codename: CGP.
scene 1 ( 5-10 sec) - missile/bomb explosion, followed by falling debris, woods, and bomb remnants, then a dog tag with a bullet hole fell on the floor, a dirty and bloody hand reach it, then a closer view of the dog tag showing the name embedded on it " C o d e n a m e : C G P", Then another bomb exploded on the background, another group of debris fall making the entire scene a bit black, follwed by a zoming letter of CODENAME on the screen ( from big to readable letters at a bullet speed) followed by another group of letters CGP superimposed on the screen to a readable letters.
scene 2 ( 10 sec) - from codename CGP letters, a warplane goes on the screen on an extreme close up, hiting and bump all the letters. The letters exploded / scattered and vanish on the screen. from black background to a war scene, the warplane continues to zoom, then fired up some missiles on one community place. Then comes an explosion.
scene 3 (5 sec) - scene after of the explode place, close views of some explode debris, The scene faded from falling debris to a swinging dogtag, now seen hanging on then fall down on a dirty floor. One hand hold them.
scene 4 (5 sec) - Cut to cut scene of a soldier in agony and pain...asking for a help as he is holding a dog tag. one middle age man, dirty and have some bruise all over his body approach the soldier as if he is giving the dog tag to him. the man take it and the soldier point his hand to a nearby battleground as if he is talking to a man to look and see what was happening there. As the man hold the dog tag, the soldier went off his last breath saying "Go CGP".
scene 5 (10 sec) - the man look closely the dog tag, then a close up view of the dog tag with the embedded name codename:CGP. Then the man inspect the soldiers body, take some of his belongings ( tools) and go to a warplane that crashed nearby. He look on the cabin and seen a warplane manual. Then he started fixed the engine and some broken parts. the wheels is broken, then he see a wooden cart and take the wooden wheel. He take it, reinforced and improvised and successfully fixed it to the warplane.
scne 6 (10 sec) - with the flight manual on his hand, he maneuvered the warplane in trial and error. He cant make the warplane to go up, just moving around bumping everything on its way. Even exhausted, he continually tried his best. And now the warplane goes near the cliff edge as if it will fall down in the deep.The place is on top of a grassy mountain. they are on top
scene 7 (10 sec) - aerial view of the cliff zooming in to a close up shoot then fading to a warplane as it falls on the top, then it goes down as if he is riding in a roller coaster. It goes down then it goes up. As the plane goes an gain enough speed, it flew in the air. The man now gained confidence. Then he see on the other side of the mountain a wartorned place. The people there wave thier hand as if they somebody that will rescue them from the enemy. The man took a deep breathe and nod to them. Then he goes off on the main battle to fight the enemy.
scene 8 ( 5 sec) - pan and zooming on the warplane, then a closer view of the cockpit, then a view of the battleground on the warplane windows. The scene faded to full view of the warplane as it swoops in the red sky, then a text CODENAME: zoom in the screen in a bullet speed followed by another text CGP. The scene faded in black then a text appears in the screen "coming soon"
THE SCRIPTS.
CGP Community Project 01
Title: Codename CGP
Genre: action/drama/fiction
Lenght: 1 minute
Plot: A time of conflict between warrying nation, theres a war-torn place wherein all people suffered a lot from enemies occupations, bombing, rattling gun, zooming missiles, and more, all side by side storming the entire place. One man arises in the midst of it, a burning desires to defend his people led him to fight with the only weapon he have...his brain and heart. Injured and exhausted and with some primitive tools in hand he was able to fixed one warplane that accidentally crash on his place. Studied everything all by himself with the help of some old manuals he find on the warplane cabin. With some adventurous action in the air, land and water, he successfully defend the place from the entire enemies. His people dont know him. They just seen him along the street begging for a living. Now they are proud that this man become thier only hope. They call him only with a Codename: CGP.
scene 1 ( 5-10 sec) - missile/bomb explosion, followed by falling debris, woods, and bomb remnants, then a dog tag with a bullet hole fell on the floor, a dirty and bloody hand reach it, then a closer view of the dog tag showing the name embedded on it " C o d e n a m e : C G P", Then another bomb exploded on the background, another group of debris fall making the entire scene a bit black, follwed by a zoming letter of CODENAME on the screen ( from big to readable letters at a bullet speed) followed by another group of letters CGP superimposed on the screen to a readable letters.
scene 2 ( 10 sec) - from codename CGP letters, a warplane goes on the screen on an extreme close up, hiting and bump all the letters. The letters exploded / scattered and vanish on the screen. from black background to a war scene, the warplane continues to zoom, then fired up some missiles on one community place. Then comes an explosion.
scene 3 (5 sec) - scene after of the explode place, close views of some explode debris, The scene faded from falling debris to a swinging dogtag, now seen hanging on then fall down on a dirty floor. One hand hold them.
scene 4 (5 sec) - Cut to cut scene of a soldier in agony and pain...asking for a help as he is holding a dog tag. one middle age man, dirty and have some bruise all over his body approach the soldier as if he is giving the dog tag to him. the man take it and the soldier point his hand to a nearby battleground as if he is talking to a man to look and see what was happening there. As the man hold the dog tag, the soldier went off his last breath saying "Go CGP".
scene 5 (10 sec) - the man look closely the dog tag, then a close up view of the dog tag with the embedded name codename:CGP. Then the man inspect the soldiers body, take some of his belongings ( tools) and go to a warplane that crashed nearby. He look on the cabin and seen a warplane manual. Then he started fixed the engine and some broken parts. the wheels is broken, then he see a wooden cart and take the wooden wheel. He take it, reinforced and improvised and successfully fixed it to the warplane.
scne 6 (10 sec) - with the flight manual on his hand, he maneuvered the warplane in trial and error. He cant make the warplane to go up, just moving around bumping everything on its way. Even exhausted, he continually tried his best. And now the warplane goes near the cliff edge as if it will fall down in the deep.The place is on top of a grassy mountain. they are on top
scene 7 (10 sec) - aerial view of the cliff zooming in to a close up shoot then fading to a warplane as it falls on the top, then it goes down as if he is riding in a roller coaster. It goes down then it goes up. As the plane goes an gain enough speed, it flew in the air. The man now gained confidence. Then he see on the other side of the mountain a wartorned place. The people there wave thier hand as if they somebody that will rescue them from the enemy. The man took a deep breathe and nod to them. Then he goes off on the main battle to fight the enemy.
scene 8 ( 5 sec) - pan and zooming on the warplane, then a closer view of the cockpit, then a view of the battleground on the warplane windows. The scene faded to full view of the warplane as it swoops in the red sky, then a text CODENAME: zoom in the screen in a bullet speed followed by another text CGP. The scene faded in black then a text appears in the screen "coming soon"
render master- Game Master
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
ilabas na iyong mga itinatago dyan na imahinasyon. hehehehe.
first project was the concept for an improvised warplane. creat tayo ng model na something na magdadala doon sa movie.
first project was the concept for an improvised warplane. creat tayo ng model na something na magdadala doon sa movie.
render master- Game Master
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
mukang nahinto to ha???
maganda ung plot ni ser dude ronel....
and it needs a lot of character modelling...
I really hope we could pull this out...sayang naman kung di...
maganda ung plot ni ser dude ronel....
and it needs a lot of character modelling...
I really hope we could pull this out...sayang naman kung di...
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
torvicz wrote:mukang nahinto to ha???
maganda ung plot ni ser dude ronel....
and it needs a lot of character modelling...
I really hope we could pull this out...sayang naman kung di...
oo nga eh kaya gumawa ako ng scripts, actually draft pa lang yan, something to play with.... movie intro via teaser ang dating. the scene will play muna sa 2 characters how codename cgp merge as if rencarnation of something sa katauhan noong isang tao. puede bawat scene eh naka matte painting muna.
sample shot. iimprovised pa iyong plane, scnaline render plus particles, low res
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hey! hindi po nahinto ito.. its still on! I'll see if I can put some time to create some storyboards... yung me drawing... also I might try to get some designs out.... dami lng talagang work sa office hahahaha!
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Sir nel, are you sure you want to go that way? I mean if we're going to do those shots, we would need high poly and ultra realistic characters right?, since we are trying to showcase our capacity. We also need high quality rigs with controls for smooth movements otherwise our work would look substandard. I'm not saying that we can't do it (believe me, i've seen better works posted here compared to other forums) but just facing the facts, it would require massive work. Having said that, you still have my full support if you choose to go that path, nice scenarios BTW
Alicecocoz- CGP Apprentice
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
ayus na ayus na yang ginawa mo ser dude ronel.....
I have no problem with that, kahit scanline nga ok na e oh....
pero dun lang sa script mo parang matrabaho nga ng konti kase
character na e....
cguro kung ganyan lang muna sa ginawa mo mas madali cguro sa lahat.
palagay mo ser?
I have no problem with that, kahit scanline nga ok na e oh....
pero dun lang sa script mo parang matrabaho nga ng konti kase
character na e....
cguro kung ganyan lang muna sa ginawa mo mas madali cguro sa lahat.
palagay mo ser?
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Re: CGP Community Project # 1
i think we should minimize on the acting and go for more visual effects. adding characters can quickly make a simple scene to a very complicated shot. just my 2 cents.
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Para sakin basta may output ok na. edit nalang tayo. ok lang magdream big. basta meron actions. kaya tuloy na tuloy to.
Last edited by bokkins on Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:50 pm; edited 1 time in total
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pwede kayang e- revised konti ang script? It sounds good but the rigging and animation for all the charachters would be slightlly over the top. Since this is pro bono, I don't think anyone could spend that much time doing that hardcore modelling and animation at that level without the sacrifice of time.
We can do it, but the question is, who is willing to do it?
We can do it, but the question is, who is willing to do it?
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eyecon01 wrote:pwede kayang e- revised konti ang script? It sounds good but the rigging and animation for all the charachters would be slightlly over the top. Since this is pro bono, I don't think anyone could spend that much time doing that hardcore modelling and animation at that level without the sacrifice of time.
We can do it, but the question is, who is willing to do it?
Pwedeng pwede bro. the script is for editing talaga. para lalo pang mapaganda. post nalang ng suggestion kung which part to take out, then ano ang ipapapalit.
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