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Post by ERICK Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:45 pm

i've been a fan of your photoshots here... and im also aiming to buy a new one... pero nagdadalawang isip ako... kase tingin ko mahal po ata ang isang starter camera... just to ask kung ano po ba ang magandang starter camera na pwede sakin, ung pangmahirap lang po ang presyo, baka di ko kayanin.. hehehe... saka na lang ung mga accessories pag nakabawi na... pa post reply naman po ung model name, pati presyo... php price po ha... mas ok kung me pic.. hehehe.. thanks in advance Crazy_Lion
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Post by bokkins Tue Jan 20, 2009 5:57 pm

Ito ang mga D-SLR
Nikon D40 - 21k
Nikon D60 - 28K
Canon 1000d - 29k
Canon 450d - 37k

Ito naman ang DSL-Like
Canon SX10-i - 24k
Sony H50 - 17k

Pwede din ang normal na digital camera. Hanapin mo ung may manual override. Ung cheapest yata is ung Casio. un ung dati ko. nasa 8k nalang ngayon. maganda na ang kuha. 10megapixels na yata. Search mo nalang sa net kasi mas ok may reviews.

Yan bro. Philippines Price yan. check mo sa Hidalgo sa gilid ng SM Carriedo or dito sa mga multiply sites na to.

http://gadgetboi.multiply.com/photos

http://sophisticat.multiply.com/photos/album/169

Check mo din dito ang mga iba pang cameras and reviews. Smile

http://www.dpreview.com/
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Post by ERICK Tue Jan 20, 2009 6:29 pm

ser... tanong k lang po ba kung me manual override? ano po ba naitutulong nun? hehehe.. noob questions po sorry
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Post by artedesenyo Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:18 pm

suggest ko D60
pinakamaliit na DSLR.

dito sa beijing naka sale nasa 3100 rmb - wala pang 21000 pesos.
di ko nga lang alam kung pwede i deliver sa pinas .....
nung binili ko nasa 3700 sayang hehehehhee.
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Post by ERICK Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:26 pm

artedesenyo wrote:suggest ko D60
pinakamaliit na DSLR.

dito sa beijing naka sale nasa 3100 rmb - wala pang 21000 pesos.
di ko nga lang alam kung pwede i deliver sa pinas .....
nung binili ko nasa 3700 sayang hehehehhee.

enlighten me naman po kung ano ung DSLR.. hehehe sensha na po.. newbie lang
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Post by artedesenyo Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:04 pm

A digital single-lens reflex camera (digital SLR or DSLR) is a digital camera that uses a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera.

The basic operation of a DSLR is as follows: for viewing purposes, the mirror reflects the light coming through the attached lens upwards at a 90 degree angle. It is then reflected twice by the pentaprism, rectifying it for the photographer's eye. During exposure, the mirror assembly swings upward, the aperture narrows (if set smaller than wide open), and a shutter opens, allowing the lens to project light onto the image sensor. A second shutter then covers the sensor, marking the end of the exposure, and the mirror lowers while the shutter resets. The period that the mirror is flipped up is referred to as "viewfinder blackout". A fast-acting mirror and shutter is preferred so as to not delay an action photo.

All of this happens automatically over a period of milliseconds. Fast cameras do this upwards of 10 times a second.

DSLRs are often preferred by professional still photographers because they allow an accurate preview of framing close to the moment of exposure, and because DSLRs allow the user to choose from a variety of interchangeable lenses. Most DSLRs also have a function that allows accurate preview of depth of field.

Many professionals also prefer DSLRs for their larger sensors compared to most compact digitals. DSLRs have sensors which are generally closer in size to the traditional film formats that many current professionals started out using. These large sensors allow for similar depths of field and picture angle to film formats.

The term DSLR generally refers to cameras that resemble 35mm format cameras, although some medium format cameras are technically DSLRs.
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Post by ERICK Tue Jan 20, 2009 9:52 pm

artedesenyo wrote:A digital single-lens reflex camera (digital SLR or DSLR) is a digital camera that uses a mechanical mirror system and pentaprism to direct light from the lens to an optical viewfinder on the back of the camera.

The basic operation of a DSLR is as follows: for viewing purposes, the mirror reflects the light coming through the attached lens upwards at a 90 degree angle. It is then reflected twice by the pentaprism, rectifying it for the photographer's eye. During exposure, the mirror assembly swings upward, the aperture narrows (if set smaller than wide open), and a shutter opens, allowing the lens to project light onto the image sensor. A second shutter then covers the sensor, marking the end of the exposure, and the mirror lowers while the shutter resets. The period that the mirror is flipped up is referred to as "viewfinder blackout". A fast-acting mirror and shutter is preferred so as to not delay an action photo.

All of this happens automatically over a period of milliseconds. Fast cameras do this upwards of 10 times a second.

DSLRs are often preferred by professional still photographers because they allow an accurate preview of framing close to the moment of exposure, and because DSLRs allow the user to choose from a variety of interchangeable lenses. Most DSLRs also have a function that allows accurate preview of depth of field.

Many professionals also prefer DSLRs for their larger sensors compared to most compact digitals. DSLRs have sensors which are generally closer in size to the traditional film formats that many current professionals started out using. These large sensors allow for similar depths of field and picture angle to film formats.

The term DSLR generally refers to cameras that resemble 35mm format cameras, although some medium format cameras are technically DSLRs.


ahhh un pala un... hmmm... interesting nga... ipon na cguro ako ng mas malaking halaga... thanks for the info sir... appreciate it...
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Post by tutik Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:03 pm

aside from the suggestions already mentioned, you can also try starter dlsr models from Pentax, Olympus, Fuji you'll be amazed by the features they offer at a cheaper price. non-dlsr w/ manual settings is also good to start with. i started using canon a95 (w/manual mode) and that's where i learned how the shutter/aperture/iso settings works. and if i have the $$$ now i'll get a Lumix3. getting a second hand older model is also is another option. my boss still uses the very old canon 350d and i still envy his shots (he got pricey lenses though=)).


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Post by ERICK Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:12 pm

tutik wrote:aside from the suggestions already mentioned, you can also try starter dlsr models from Pentax, Olympus, Fuji you'll be amazed by the features they offer at a cheaper price. non-dlsr w/ manual settings is also good to start with. i started using canon a95 (w/manual mode) and that's where i learned how the shutter/aperture/iso settings works. and if i have the $$$ now i'll get a Lumix3. getting a second hand older model is also is another option. my boss still uses the very old canon 350d but i still envy his shots.

hmmm... galing talaga ng forum na to.. dami tumutulong... thats why i like to be with this site til my last breath.. hehehe... thanks po sa info sir tutik... nakalista na po ung mga suggestions nyo... try ko tumingin ng mga cameras on sunday... thanks again sir....
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Post by uwak Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:27 pm

i recommend Nikon D60, medyo mura na okay pa ang quality...and you can get cheaper accessories from nikon compare to Canon...and also sa Color Quality okay yan....pero im not sure kung may available na battery grip for Nikon D60..

BTW, im a canon User, im geared with Canon 400D, old model pero nasa lente pa rin ang tiwala ko..personal opinion ko lang po..

again, i recommend Nikon D60... thumbsup Very Happy
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Post by ERICK Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:51 pm

ravenvillareal wrote:i recommend Nikon D60, medyo mura na okay pa ang quality...and you can get cheaper accessories from nikon compare to Canon...and also sa Color Quality okay yan....pero im not sure kung may available na battery grip for Nikon D60..

BTW, im a canon User, im geared with Canon 400D, old model pero nasa lente pa rin ang tiwala ko..personal opinion ko lang po..

again, i recommend Nikon D60... thumbsup Very Happy

ginoong raven magkano po ba ang halaga ng sinasabi nyo pong NIKON D60?
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Post by uwak Tue Jan 20, 2009 10:59 pm

ERICK wrote:
ravenvillareal wrote:i recommend Nikon D60, medyo mura na okay pa ang quality...and you can get cheaper accessories from nikon compare to Canon...and also sa Color Quality okay yan....pero im not sure kung may available na battery grip for Nikon D60..

BTW, im a canon User, im geared with Canon 400D, old model pero nasa lente pa rin ang tiwala ko..personal opinion ko lang po..

again, i recommend Nikon D60... thumbsup Very Happy

ginoong raven magkano po ba ang halaga ng sinasabi nyo pong NIKON D60?

Ginoong Erick, dito sa Dubai nagkakahalaga yan ng 1800 Dirhams mga 21,000php more or less...
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Post by bokkins Tue Jan 20, 2009 11:21 pm

almost 7k cheaper pala sa talaga pag sa labas mo binili ang d60. very good price. Thanks sa info mga bro. Smile
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Post by ERICK Wed Jan 21, 2009 12:36 am

bokkins wrote:almost 7k cheaper pala sa talaga pag sa labas mo binili ang d60. very good price. Thanks sa info mga bro. Smile

mahal pa din... pag lalaanan ko lang sya sana ng 15k.. meron bang may ganung presyo?
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Post by celes Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:49 am

not sure kung meron DSLR na 15k.. even mga "SLR-like" models tulad ng Canon G10 over 20k na rin.

check out this guy's recommendations, very straightforward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRkczEUW0T4

nyek si obama pala to.. hehe ito tamang link

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm

for me i'd suggest you go for the Nikon D40 (instead of the D60) if you are on a budget.. otherwise if you have 6k+ to spare go for the D60 na. kung entry level talaga ang habol mo. I had my D40 for years and it still works great... minsan mas madalas ko pa siya gamitin kesa sa upgrade camera ko.
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Post by tutik Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:07 am

mushroom wrote:not sure kung meron DSLR na 15k.. even mga "SLR-like" models tulad ng Canon G10 over 20k na rin.

check out this guy's recommendations, very straightforward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRkczEUW0T4

nyek si obama pala to.. hehe ito tamang link

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm

for me i'd suggest you go for the Nikon D40 (instead of the D60) if you are on a budget.. otherwise if you have 6k+ to spare go for the D60 na. kung entry level talaga ang habol mo. I had my D40 for years and it still works great... minsan mas madalas ko pa siya gamitin kesa sa upgrade camera ko.

ehem, naka d90 ka na pre? =)
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Post by celes Wed Jan 21, 2009 7:24 am

tutik wrote:
mushroom wrote:not sure kung meron DSLR na 15k.. even mga "SLR-like" models tulad ng Canon G10 over 20k na rin.

check out this guy's recommendations, very straightforward.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRkczEUW0T4

nyek si obama pala to.. hehe ito tamang link

http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/recommended-cameras.htm

for me i'd suggest you go for the Nikon D40 (instead of the D60) if you are on a budget.. otherwise if you have 6k+ to spare go for the D60 na. kung entry level talaga ang habol mo. I had my D40 for years and it still works great... minsan mas madalas ko pa siya gamitin kesa sa upgrade camera ko.

ehem, naka d90 ka na pre? =)

hehehe.. Very Happy yup pre, di ako nakatiis.. ganda ng features eh. low light ISO and video, sulit..


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Post by ERICK Wed Jan 21, 2009 5:54 pm

i've made up my mind... i'll go for nikon d40... thank you sir mushroom and sa lahat ng nagreply sa thread na to... mabuhay po kayong lahat
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Post by artedesenyo Wed Jan 21, 2009 6:24 pm

galing ng commercial ni obama hehehehehe tnx tutik..
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Post by nyop Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:39 am

im here nikonian! just advice to go for d60...
promise!!!
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Post by ERICK Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:24 pm

madsnyop wrote:im here nikonian! just advice to go for d60...
promise!!!
ate glow hahahaha..........

hi sir... mashado na pong mahal para sakin ang d60, dukha lamang po ako.. hihihi...
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Post by nyop Thu Jan 22, 2009 5:32 pm

hahaha hindi naman po, bibili kana rin man, dun na sa ok dba, wag kang magmadali, pag nabili mo na un d40 6mpxl. lang un compare sa d60 10mpxl. meron din bro sa hidalgo, kung nasa manila ka kay "henry" madami dun, kung gusto mo sa tipidpc.com Very Happy
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Post by ERICK Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:33 pm

madsnyop wrote:hahaha hindi naman po, bibili kana rin man, dun na sa ok dba, wag kang magmadali, pag nabili mo na un d40 6mpxl. lang un compare sa d60 10mpxl. meron din bro sa hidalgo, kung nasa manila ka kay "henry" madami dun, kung gusto mo sa tipidpc.com Very Happy

san po ba ung henry?
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Post by nyop Thu Jan 22, 2009 6:40 pm

sa may hidalgo tabi ng quiapo church...
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Post by tutik Thu Jan 22, 2009 7:07 pm

madsnyop wrote:hahaha hindi naman po, bibili kana rin man, dun na sa ok dba, wag kang magmadali, pag nabili mo na un d40 6mpxl. lang un compare sa d60 10mpxl. meron din bro sa hidalgo, kung nasa manila ka kay "henry" madami dun, kung gusto mo sa tipidpc.com Very Happy

i agree, one time big time is better! d90 na sana kc mabibitin ka pa rin sa d60, kaso way beyond reach as you mentioned. so good to go na ang d40! hippie
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