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Post by owenski Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:22 pm

Hi,

Good morning cgpipz!!!

Hihingi lang sana advice, i've been using my pc for 2 months now and recently lang nangyayari na nagsusudden shutdown sya without any errors or notifications.

Here's my specs:
Proc. Intel core i7 950
Mobo. EVGA x58 sli le
HD. 1tb WD caviar green
RAM. 3x2gb G.skill ripjaws
vcard. Palit 450gts 1tb
Psu. Silverstone Strider 650W
Cpu fan. CM V6GT
Case fan. 2 aerocool 120mm (intake)
2 tricool antec fan (120mm and 140mm kasama sa case for exhaust)
Case. ANtec 300

I've been dealing with the it for 2 days now and i can't find any clue kung bakit nagshushutdown sya then restart.

(1)Dati naglalast pa sya for around 3-10min before nagshushutdown. Madalas once nagload na ako ng laro (assasin's creed), and pag work mode na ako. i dont think loaded sya masyado since i do work and games separately and i always check my temps thru e-fleet and kung tama pagkakaalala ko around 35 temperature ng CPU, 48 sa vreg and 34 sa system (idle) and 40-55-38 pag pag medyo loaded although sa tingin ko naman normal pa naman sya.

first step i've made.
Baka virus or anything since it all started the day i borrowed a flash drive from someone, since wala akong matinong anti virus and walang internet sa bahay, nagreformat ako, nagboot naman sya nang maayos and somehow finished the windows installation. Kaso, when i was about to install the drivers for the board etc etc, sudden shutdown nanaman (nakigamit nga pala akong ng ibang dvd-drive since nagmamalfunction yung sakin)

second step.
Check ng parts kung may sunog or anything. Since ayaw kong bulatlatin yung pc, tinanggal ko lang ram and vcard, then checked, wala namang kakaiba so i put it back. removed the dvd-drive (baka kako ito yung may problema). inON ko yung pc and somehow umabot sya sa windows, siguro mga 3min na akong nagnanavigate sa files ko then shutdown uli.

(2) this time, umiikli ang yung lifespan ng pagboot nung pc then shutdown uli, autorestart uli, nagshorten uli yung oras, then auto restart uli. Getting frustated, i turn my UPS off, dismantle my pc, cleaned everything i can possibly clean at the moment. Hindi naman sya maalikabok. Check the wires and reconnected it, checked the fans, cpu, etc etc, ok naman.

reboot ko uli, this time hanggang welcome screen na lang ng windows umabot. then shutdown, i somehow sneaked into BIOS setup, checked my temps, kung tama uli memorya ko,
34 degrees CPU
55 NB
40 Vreg
34 System
Normal naman sya sa tingin ko so reboot ko uli, this time things got worst, bukod sa umiikli ang span between boot start and shutdown, sa huli ayaw na magrestart. i tried pressing the power button pero no response at all. ang ginawa ko, Off/On and UPS, press the power button, nagboot! kaso same thing. Did the same process, sneaked into BIOS, try loading optimal defaults, ganun parin....

this time, suko na ako and decided to ask for help, hehe 4am na kasi trabaho pa ako.

Haay naku, kung kelan may ongoing projects saka naman nagloko.

question!
1. ano sa tingin nyo sira? tingin ko psu, kaso wala akong mahiraman ng psu para macheck...

TULONG!!!
TULONG!!!
TULONG!!!
TULONG!!!

please.... peace man
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Post by ortzak Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:29 pm

nice rig dude thumbsup

sa specs mo wala ako masabi baka sa OS mo or sa Software na naka install..
try to format/fresh install..advise ko win7 ultimate hehe mas oks orig kasi nagka problem din ako dati ng ganyan..
kahit wala ka antivirus, pwede windows essentials..libre yan maganda pa..

HTH..
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Post by owenski Tue Dec 07, 2010 7:49 pm

ortzak wrote:nice rig dude thumbsup

sa specs mo wala ako masabi baka sa OS mo or sa Software na naka install..
try to format/fresh install..advise ko win7 ultimate hehe mas oks orig kasi nagka problem din ako dati ng ganyan..
kahit wala ka antivirus, pwede windows essentials..libre yan maganda pa..

HTH..

nagtry na ko magrefrmat sir, same thing paring so i came to a conclusion na baka hardware nga ang problema.. and, (taghirap pa sir for genuine OS, sorry peace man ) windows 7 din gamit ko....

anyway, thanks sir...
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Post by henryM Tue Dec 07, 2010 8:13 pm

try mo sir alisin yung isang stick na memory. try mo alin sa dalawa ang uubra. saka try mo rin gamit iba video card. yan lang naman ang sirain dyan. yung procie, mboard, hdd, power supply bihira masira yan lalo kung branded.
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Post by 3DZONE Tue Dec 07, 2010 10:14 pm

ito ay baka lang sa akin bro, dahil nangyari ot sa akin...hirap din ako humanap ng problema...baka yung processor mo ay hindi masyadong nakalapat, make sure na naka-intact talaga siya sa Mobo mo...may ginagamit na paste or gel dyan eh hindi ko lang ang tawag...one more na nakikita ko dyan eh, umiinit siya sa portion na nyan...if possible lang naman mag watercoolant ka na...lakas kasi ng pc mo eh...gudlak bro Very Happy

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Post by kieko Wed Dec 08, 2010 12:45 am

same problem bro with me..
check this..

http://www.cgpinoy.org/techie-corner-f26/on-off-pc-problem-t15113.htm

Since then, nagpalit ako memory nag g.skill trident me..so for around 3 weeks running smooth siya
but last 3 days, nangyari ulit..but this time i believe more on software problem..magrereformat nga ako niyan kasi may bad sector yung drive c:.. but after nung reformat e momonitor ko ulit..kapag nangyari ulit..baka talagang defect ang mga parts..
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Post by killerBEE Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:26 am

sa OS po ata yan bro.nangyari na din yan sakin
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Post by kieko Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:30 am

killerBEE wrote:sa OS po ata yan bro.nangyari na din yan sakin

di din ako sure kung sa os lang sir..kasi sabi nila, sa kakashutdown and restart, magkakaerror ang software or madadamay din ang OS..pero di sure yung root cause..
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Post by killerBEE Wed Dec 08, 2010 1:46 am

kasi po may mga OS (di genuine) na hindi compatible sa pc.
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Post by pugot ulo Wed Dec 08, 2010 2:17 am

3DZONE wrote:ito ay baka lang sa akin bro, dahil nangyari ot sa akin...hirap din ako humanap ng problema...baka yung processor mo ay hindi masyadong nakalapat, make sure na naka-intact talaga siya sa Mobo mo...may ginagamit na paste or gel dyan eh hindi ko lang ang tawag...one more na nakikita ko dyan eh, umiinit siya sa portion na nyan...if possible lang naman mag watercoolant ka na...lakas kasi ng pc mo eh...gudlak bro Very Happy


tama si sir 3dzone,


sir ganito, yung processor mo at yung CM V6 heat sink mo hindi nakalapat masyado, dapat lapat na lapat yan. try re-seating your V6 again, tanggalin mo siya, put some thermal paste or thermal compound above your processor and at your V6, use any card na pangpahid sa thermal paste mo, prepaid cards pwede, calling card, etc...

masyado mainit na ang processor mo kaya nag ooverheat, hindi nakalapat sa heatsink, kaya ang nagyayari restart ng restart. pag sobrang init na, hindi na talaga yan bubukas.

yung iba, DIY ginagawa, nilalagyan ng foil in place of thermal paste or compund.

please update us kung ano na nangyari...

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Post by bokkins Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:09 am

Ganyan din nangyari sa akin itong week lang. Nilinis ko lahat ng parts. Video card at processor. Pagbalik ko ng processor, hindi yata nakabit ng maayos. Gumana kaso biglang ngshutdown. Kinalas ko ulit lahat, saka ikinabit. Ok na ngayon.

Either that or the OS.
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Post by jc01 Wed Dec 08, 2010 4:16 am

nangyari na rin sakin to,lininis ko lang rin mga parts, importanti sa lahat power supply... pag wala pa rin try mo mgpalit ng os...

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Post by Stryker Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:52 pm

Try mo magformat sa dos before install new os... sir...! possible kasi virus... hope it helps... Very Happy
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Post by owenski Wed Dec 08, 2010 6:58 pm

updates mga sir, salamat sa mga reply...

i tried to power on my pc, worst case na.... around 5 secs restart sya... hanggang sa ayaw na, ni hindi na umaabot kahit sa welcome page ng mobo.

kinalas ko uli lahat... checked every parts, dinagdagan ko na rin ng thermal paste, hinigpitan ng maayos hsf, tried rebooting, same thing pa rin.

removed lahat ng cables except sa power supply... same thing....

tried rebooting with single ram, chineck ko paisaisa, pati video card, pati hd, and di ko lang inalis procie, and psu, same thing paring...

nagboboot for 5 sec ng dalwang beses siguro, then paikli ng paikli hangang wala na reaction kahit pindutin ko power button...

mga sir, question, if temp ng cpu ang problema, how come nung nakapuslit ako with the bios, 34 degrees lang ang temp nya...

wahhhh!! nakakasira ng ulo... Shocked
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Post by kieko Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:04 pm

bakit hindi nyo pa dalhin sa isang technician or kung saan nyo binili?kasi baka defect na talaga sa mga hardwares..
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Post by pugot ulo Wed Dec 08, 2010 7:35 pm

does your PSU Silverstone Strider 650W is TRUE RATED? you got a high specs there.. try removing and using your PSU in other high specs of CPU. if still keeps on restarting or shutting down, it will be your PSU lacks of wattage.

also, if you want to format your CPU, do not format it, just select the REPAIR option in the format boot-up, but i dont think that it will be the cause.

if the CPU restarts during boot-up, maybe your OS has a problem,, pero kung sa una palang namamatay / restart na kagad CPU mo at hindi nakarating sa pag BOOT, means one of your hardwares has a problem, either may maluwang or sira talaga.

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Post by darkwarrior Thu Dec 09, 2010 6:33 am

1. kung hindi virus, malware yang tumira sa pc mo?
 possible solution: update your anti-virus and  install"malwarebytes" then scan your pc. Kung di ma install sa nrmal mode try mo sa safe mode.

2. maduming memory
possible solution: gamit ka ng eraser tanggalin mo yung memory at linisin mo yung plate (color gold sa memory)

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Post by Nico.Patdu Thu Dec 09, 2010 11:26 am

kung windows 7 ka sir baka bSOD ung syo, may bug daw kasi ung win7, ung akin din dati 2 weeks ko palang gamit windows 7 os nag autoshutdown bigla nang wala warning then reformat ko at naayos din. madami pa pwede dahilan hardware problem sa powersupply at heatsink.better kuha ka nang technician or papalitan mo bago.
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Post by 3DZONE Thu Dec 09, 2010 1:30 pm

dalawa na lang nakikita kong problema dyan...MOBO or SU ang may sira...

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Post by owenski Thu Dec 09, 2010 10:06 pm

haay, thanks everyone! i tried using my psu to another unit and it seems like yun nga ang may sira. Nagkaaksidente pa nga our of frustrations, hehe, sana di nasira mobo ko, haay naku...

anyway, thanks again mga sir! i have to wait for atleast two weeks para marepair or mapalitan...
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Post by Nayve Fri Dec 10, 2010 12:29 am

Buti nakita niyo agad problem...
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Post by necrolyte Sat Dec 11, 2010 12:10 pm

mag isolate ka ng mga parts na pinag sususpetsahan mo. unahin mo muna ang hardware i solve bago ang software, mahirap mag ulit ng pag install ng mga programs at mabura pa yung ibang mga naka save mong importanteng files.

kung under warranty pa yan, pinaka magandang gawin nga ay dalhin sa pinag bilhan para ipa-test, sasalpakan nila ng ibang pyesa yan na compatible sa buong setup mo para makita kung alin ang culprit.
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Post by arkiangel Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:32 am

Hi Owensky,

I read this thread just now.. Mukhang pareho tayo ng problema ngayon, at ngayon lang ako nagkaron ng oras na mag-research tungkol sa topak ng pc ko.


My pc specs:

OS: Windows 7 Professional 64 Bit version

ASUS Rampage 3 Extreme X58 DDR3 i7 950
G.Skill Trident DDR3 (6GB)
Asus 460 GTX 1GB DCU
WD 1TB & Samsung 1TB hard disk
PSU Cooler Master 1000 watts


Sa situation ko naman, Boot-up pa lang nagpi-freeze na.. minsan nakakatsamba ako na mag-load ng matino at walang problema pero once na nag-internet nako, ayun bigla na lang nagpi-freeze at mag-re restart. Akala ko dati e virus lang din..

Pero multiple times ko na na-experience ganung mga pangyayari at madalas din ang Blue Screen (BSOD), kaya kinuha ko ung code na laging lumalabas and one-step search lang sa Google..ayun lumabas na agad kung ano pala talaga ang problema.


These are the codes na lumalabas sa Blue screen: 0x00000116 / nvlddmkm.sys

All these codes will only lead you to video card problems with NVIDIA most commonly on 400/500 series (which in my case I bought 460 GTX). Hindi ko alam kung matutuwa ako o anuman, dahil nalaman ko na hindi pala ako nag-iisa.

And one of the coolest forums I've read is with this link: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187419&st=0

NVIDIA didn't deny the issues about their video cards, kaya lang medyu nakakadismaya ang mga sagot nila sa forum nila mismo:
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=187401


To sum up..nagawa ko na din lahat ng ginawa mo at naisip ko na din lahat ng na-suggest ng mga tropapips natin dito.
Frustrating lang, kasi I bought this pc recently as a gift for myself,
just a simple token para sa subsubang pagta-trabaho nang napakaraming
taon. In first 2 weeks na nagagamit ko ay walang problema, pero after ko
i-update yung mga drivers..ayun consistent naman sya hanggang ngayon na
nagpi-freeze at nag-re restart ng kusa.

Ang masaklap dito mukhang wala nang solution sa problema ko kundi bumili ako ng bagong video card. Alam ko, na most recommended ang NVIDIA nang mga masters sa larangan na ito. But with this bad experience I had, baka I will go with ATI muna. Ansakit na sa puso, sakit pa nang bulsa ko sa pangyayaring ito.

But still, if someone out there already found a solution about this problem of ours... Please, oh please help us Sad


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Post by nixsaw Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:19 am

100% sa OS yan!!!!!!!!!try nalang sa windows 7.....sa specs mo wla ako masabi......
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Post by bicolano Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:32 am

tingin ko under power PSU mo.
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