PC Specs

Guys ,

Good day!
Mga bro, ask lang me ng magandang specs ng Computer, Balak ko ng magpalit ng pc sa bahy. Im stil using Amd duron. Max 7 and Cad 2006 pa gamit ko. Whats the best specs ng pc? Availble here sa atin. Tnx.

bro d higher d better un nga lng mhal mxdo...mag core2quad ka...mobo mo sli na support upto 8 gig na ram at 2 pwede ikabit na video card...gigabyte na bord yun...

Tnx sir vhin, pwede malamn yung complete specs? tnx

be wise and pickie in setting up your pc. search mo lang sa net re: core2quad setup so you'll have a better view at sa gusto mo specs unto your computer,,,, okie

kung medyo budget ka sa processor try AMD tri-core..

Depende sa budget pero for rendering mas madaming cores mas ok. Di mo kelangan ng multi-gpu setup sli or crossfire, kahit gamer ka gagawin mo lang un pag mahilig ka magbenchmark or naguumapaw pera mo at nangangati kang gastusin. At least 4gb ram tapos 64bit vista para masaya

Intel quad core pag mejo maluwag budget mo lalo na kung nago-overclock ka, phenom x4 kung mejo budget limited pero pwede mo pa din ma-overclock decently un kung ung recent motherboar models kukunin mo.

Di naman nagkakalayo ang presyo ng Intel at AMD.. It depends pa rin kung ilan GHZ and CACHE per L1 and L2 ang prices. hindi kelangan ng SLI sa videocard kung workstation ka. OVERCLOCK not recommended in 3dmax lalamunin nia ang RAM mo kaya kapag nagrerender ka magcrashed down ang vray at max.. don't get vista muna pre...daming isyu sa quad cores processors..pabayaan mo muna lumabas ang SP2 and SP3 ng vista bago ka magdecide magvista...

Yes unreasonable overclocking by a novice not recommended, pero kung alam mo na ginagawa mo walang masisira. I've been running my system overclocked for the last two years, using it for gaming, rendering, benchmarking, and the usual web surfing and watching videos. I've replaced the cpu, mobo, rams and gpu not because these parts failed but because I upgraded: just always make sure the psu is up to the task, madaming tao (sa buong mundo) walang paki sa specs ng psu samantalang pag nasira yun pwedeng damay lahat.

If money is not a problem buy the best Quad from Intel or wait for nehalem and run everything at stock for stability. Personally I have no problems OC'ing, using Vista64 SP1 and 3D Max 2009+Vray 1.5 SP2 and if you're using DDR2-800 modules you usually don't have to overclock the rams, they can run at stock.

If you want to go AMD then wait for the new procs this Dec08/Jan09.

Thanks for the info insurgent. these are very helpful. welcome to cgp!

Thanks sir bokkins, di ako magaling sa 3d sa ngayon pero mahilig ako kumalikot ng pc systems so dito muna ko makikigulo hehehe

I've been overclocking my processors no problem.. yeah for novice not recommended. benchmarking? who's on the lead? AMD or Intel?? Listen to the PRO

In ddr2 800 can you get a timing 4-4-4-12 without overclocking?

Depende sa binili mong ram sir, ung cheap crucial ko ang jedec spec nya 5-5-5-18@1.8v pero EPP (enhanced performance profile) nya 4-4-4-12@2.2v or ddr2-1000 5-5-5-15@2.2v din. So kahit alin sa dalawa gamitin ko, jedec or epp, it's still running the memories within spec, no overclocking just setting the right voltage

Pwede ka pa din namang gumamit ng value ram na ddr2-800, kahit hindi mo ma-aabot ung "tighter" timings may significant increase pa din sa performance dahil ung fsb saka cpu clock tumaas. Ung underwhelming 25% oc ko also gave me ~26% less sa rendering time without tweaking the memory timings.

@sir cadens: simply going to quad core rig (amd/intel) from a duron will give you huge performance gains that you don't need to OC especially if you're uncomfortable with it.

simple comparison nung nag-upgrade ako:

C2D @ 3.2GHz oc'ed = 31m 9.7s render time
C2Q @ 2.4GHz stock = 19m 33.9s render time

Wala pa palang nagsa-suggest ng specs so mauna na ko, hindi specific kasi wala kang binigay na budget


CPU - sa ngayon best value sa quad core ung Q6600, ok sana ung newer models (Q9xxx) kaso masyado silang mahal para small gains, but these new models are cooler and less power hungry.


Motherboard - P45 chipset sir, wag ka papabulag sa mga mamahaling motherboard na daming features na di mo kailangan. Brands na ok para sakin asus, msi, gigabyte, biostar saka foxconn. Ung mga cheaper brands pwede din siguro pero wala akong experience sa ganun and usually cheaper brands = cheaper components tulad ng capacitors etc.


Memory - Sa value rams, kingston, sa pagkakaalam ko lifetime warranty naman kingston. Kung gusto mo mag overclock atleast DDR2-800 pero kung hindi naman pwede na ung DDR2-667. 2x2gb sticks dahil recommended ko at least 4gb ram mura naman DDR2 ngayon e hehe.


Graphics Card - kahit di ka gamer kelangan mo pa din research to, madami kasi mahilig manloko na shops lalo na kung di mo alam kung anong gusto mong bilhin. Napansin ko din mas mahal nvidia cards dito sa pinas pero hindi ibig sabihin nun mas maganda so focus ako sa ATI card.

4670 512mb panalo tong card na to for 4,000 pesos. Wag ka papauto sir pag binobola ka tapos nagbabanggit ng mga 128bit or 256bit, or 512mb ram and 1gb ram, lahat ng specs na to depende sa architecture ng chip and madami-dami na nabobola sa ganitong raket (bayaw ng kuya ko, di kasi nagtatanong). Pwede na din siguro ung Nvidia na 9500GT pero kung maglalaro ka ng mga games masyadong mabagal un.


Power Supply (PSU) - mukhang ok na ung mga HEC branded na psu, pero kung gusto mo talaga reliable quality recommend ko ung Corsair brand, ung 450w na model nasa 3,300 pesos lang. Pero wag mo sayangin pera mo sa mga 1000w models hehehe, unless gusto mo mag Tri-SLI or Quad Crossfire


Hard drives - paborito ko ung western digital ko na 640GB, mataas platter density kaya mas onti platters na kelangan so mas malamig ung hard drive kahit mas malaki capacity. Pero di ka magkakamali basta bibilhin mo WD or Seagate wag lang Maxtor, pinaka-maingay kong naging hard drive maxtor saka mas madalas masira. Ung Samsung mukhang maganda din ung drives nila lalo na ung F1 series pero di pa ko nakakasubok.


Optical drives - sa ngayon Pioneer lang binibili ko, basta ang pinaka-ayaw kong brand na nabili ung Asus hehe, di kami magkasundo.


Haba ng post ko, madaldal kasi ako pag ganito usapan hehe.

additional info:
kung gusto ng mabilis na hard drive get the Western Digital Raptor..medyo may kamahalan pero sulit... or you can get low gb capacity about 160gb SATA then raid0+ or raid1+ search nio na lang sa google un difference AFAIK raid1+ was safer. ramdam ang bilis lalo na sa loading nga mg programs and saving..kaya nga lang kapag failure harddrive mawawala lahat ng datas mo..pero bibihira lang mangyari un kung nasa right temp un comp mo..

video card: kung seryoso ka sa workstation or rendering go for quadrofx370 or quadrofx570 designed for workstation(rendering,3d apps)..Gaming cards iba architecture nia pagdating sa modelling.

Verify your mobo first if it can handles 2.2v memories,some motherboard are not supplying 2.2v for memories.

insurgent wrote:Depende sa binili mong ram sir, ung cheap crucial ko ang jedec spec nya 5-5-5-18@1.8v pero EPP (enhanced performance profile) nya 4-4-4-12@2.2v or ddr2-1000 5-5-5-15@2.2v din. So kahit alin sa dalawa gamitin ko, jedec or epp, it's still running the memories within spec, no overclocking just setting the right voltage

Pwede ka pa din namang gumamit ng value ram na ddr2-800, kahit hindi mo ma-aabot ung "tighter" timings may significant increase pa din sa performance dahil ung fsb saka cpu clock tumaas. Ung underwhelming 25% oc ko also gave me ~26% less sa rendering time without tweaking the memory timings.

@sir cadens: simply going to quad core rig (amd/intel) from a duron will give you huge performance gains that you don't need to OC especially if you're uncomfortable with it.

simple comparison nung nag-upgrade ako:

C2D @ 3.2GHz oc'ed = 31m 9.7s render time
C2Q @ 2.4GHz stock = 19m 33.9s render time

Hehe yep pero masyadong mahal ung workstation graphics so palagay ko ok na ung regular gaming cards, ang ginawa ko na lang softmod ko ung lumang 8800 ko into quadro fx 4600 at malaki and difference sa max modeling. As far as I know same architecture sila lagi, ang difference ung driver optimizations saka siguro memory handling.

Also sir ckosio ok lang mobo ko dahil overclocking board talaga to pero much cheaper than the overpriced asus uber boards, mejo luma na nga lang pero wala pang budget para mapalitan.

Na-try ko din magraid, striped and mirror, pero personally ung gains ng raid setup hindi sya enough para gamitin ko 24/7. Ginawa ko na lang storage ung mga extra hdd, lalagyan ng installers saka videos/music. Atleast pag nangati ako magformat ng windows drive di na magcopy copy ng files, di din ako nagpa-partition dahil tatlo naman ung hdd ko sa main pc. Di nagbanggit ng budget si sir cadens, kung sky's the limit suggest ko ung mga SSD, lalo na ung Intel drives kung makakakita ka hehe.

ano un ginamit mo un driver ng quadro??software mode?? parang imposible ata fapz..

magkaiba po ang architecture ng quadro at gaming video card...never nagkapareho un...
hindi rin driver at memory handling lang ang pinagkaiba ng workstation at gaming card..disagree ako dun..try to google it and search the difference. sir kung nagbenchmarking kayo lam nio difference nun. try toms hardware for benchmarking quadro and gaming cards in max..

performance: magmodel ka sa sketchup ng maraming box or highpoly models then enabled shadows makikita mo kapag magrorotate ka ng view nwawala un shadows at hindi smooth ang rotation..kung quadro gamit mo super smooth walang sabit,..nag-7800gt ako hanggang 9800gt then decided to used quadro since tumatanda na tau for gaming hehe!

mura lang po ang quadro..un quadro 370 $129 un quadro570 $150..ang mahal na quadrofx un quadro1700 pataas...

about raid: ano bang rpm ng hard drive na ginamit nio sir?? I raid all my 4 drives into two raid0 at raid1 and its boosting more than WD raptor..

Yep, software mod (softmod) using rivatuner then used a quadro driver, hindi imposible sir pareho lang ng architecture un. Hindi ko naman sinabing magiging quadro na ung card, pero may significant gains sa cad saka max in my case.

http://www.techarp.com/showarticle.aspx?artno=539

saka sir according to wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_Quadro

"Many of these cards use the same chipset as the game- and action-oriented GeForce video cards by NVIDIA. Those cards that are identical to the desktop cards can be "soft-modded" to identify itself as the equivalent Quadro card and this allows optimized drivers intended for the Quadro cards to be installed on the system.[3] While this will not offer anywhere near the performance of the equivalent Quadro card it can improve performance in certain applications."

Nagge-games pa din ako sir so mas ok sakin nug cheaper gaming cards na pwedeng pang max saka games, unlike ung cheap workstation cards na pang max lang tapos di ko na magagamit sa iba, kanya kanya lang naman ng paggagamitan

Nawawala na ung gpuz screens nung softmodded pa ung 8800 ko, post ko dito pag nakita ko ibang card na kasi gamit ko ngayon.

About raid personal preference ko lang na gawin na lang storage ung other drives, ung single digit % gains ng raid di ko din mapapansin masyado

wow.. dami ko natutunan dito ah... post ko ung na kita kong specs... sa core2quad.. patingin po kung ok ha? thanks ng marami

sir kung may time ka tutorial how to do softmod para maincrease at magamit ko un gaming cards ko dito...salamat sa info sir!

and sir hindi po cheap ang workstation cards hehe...un 370 at 570 lang ang cheap..pagapak sa 1700 $500 na un...actually umaabot ng $2000 un quadro..un ung high end na...kung 9800gs mura lang talaga..pero kung GT or GTS or GTX, GX2 etc.the prices are about $400-$500 depende sa edition at production date. You can go to www.newegg.com for pricing (actually sila ang pinakamura ang pricing sa pc parts)para hindi maloko ng mga mapagsamantala dyan sa pinas..

thanks sa info sir!

Sir ckosio may tutorial na dun sa above post, sa techarp. Yep mahal ung mga workstation graphics kaya para sa mga mortal na katulad ko ung gaming na lang hehehe. May mura pero yun ung mga older models.

http://www.techpowerup.com/71086/AMD_Release_FirePro_V8700_&amp_V3750_Professional_Graphics_Cards.html

Newest workstation graphics ng ATI, $200 lang ung lower model tapos $1500 lang ung higher model, competitive prices compared sa usual srp ng mga quadro/firepro.


Edit: May friend ako softmodded ung 8800GTS so humingi ako ng screenshot

salamat sir insurgent very nice having conversation with you..dami ideas at learning process kahit medyo matigas ang ulo ko hehe!

Binalik ko un 8800gts ko subok ko lang.
sir ok un soft-mod nakakasabay un shadow kaso may iwan lang ng konti nagdodouble un shadow sa sketchup pero atleast ok nmn...I can play games and the same time rendering...

No problem sir, atleast nakakatulong ako ng konti. Dami ko na din natutunan sa pagiging lurker dito saka sa 3dp

Sir insurgent, Ckosio,

PAsensya pla di ko nabanggit ang budget ko, Less 20k pla. Very expensive and powerful mga specs u suggest. Dito sa amin province nagpaquote me sa pc shop. very expensive tlga ang core2quad. Pwede n b yung mababang core 2 duo 2.40 ghze4600? Motherboard asus p5vd2, 1GB ddr2667, Asus8500 512mb video card. 160 gb n hardisk. specs n quote sa akin ng sales rep.