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PC Specs
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Guys ,
Good day!
Mga bro, ask lang me ng magandang specs ng Computer, Balak ko ng magpalit ng pc sa bahy. Im stil using Amd duron. Max 7 and Cad 2006 pa gamit ko. Whats the best specs ng pc? Availble here sa atin. Tnx.
Guys ,
Good day!
Mga bro, ask lang me ng magandang specs ng Computer, Balak ko ng magpalit ng pc sa bahy. Im stil using Amd duron. Max 7 and Cad 2006 pa gamit ko. Whats the best specs ng pc? Availble here sa atin. Tnx.
cadens21- CGP Apprentice
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Re: PC Specs
@kietsmark
ilan ba all in all yung memory slot ng mobo mo? yup, gagana yung dual channel kapag nasa same color nakalagay. pero di ko lang alam bakit sa utol ko gumana yung binigay kong Kingston HyperX sa kanya ng magkatabi ng slot. hahaha... weird nga eh.
anyway... kung ako tatanungin mas okay yung 4GB (2X2GB) Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz Dual Channel DDR2. in terms of speed in rendering, mas mabilis ang mas mataas na frequency.
explain ko sayo ng mabuti kung papaano ba nag wo-work ang memory para lalong makatulong sa pag decide mo....
habang tumataas ang "GB" syempre mas madaming na-cacache ang memory, sa ganong paraan, di na nya kailangan balik balikan pa yung mga data na binabasa nya habang ginagamit mo sya. once napuno na yung cache, ilalabas nya yung very first data na nasa queue tapos ipapasok nya yung new data. yung "Mhz" naman is yung speed ng pag read ng data nung memory. mas mataas ang Mhz, mas mabilis mag basa.
pero in your case, I think 8GB will be overkill. mas bagay ang 8GB para sa 3D motion. I would suggest get the 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 rather than the XMS. then later on, if you have the budget and still want to make it 8GB, then buy another pair of Dominator, atleast hindi nasayang ang investment mo sa memory. by the way, paalala lang, 4GB RAM cannot be fully utilized by a 32 bit operating system.
HTH
ilan ba all in all yung memory slot ng mobo mo? yup, gagana yung dual channel kapag nasa same color nakalagay. pero di ko lang alam bakit sa utol ko gumana yung binigay kong Kingston HyperX sa kanya ng magkatabi ng slot. hahaha... weird nga eh.
anyway... kung ako tatanungin mas okay yung 4GB (2X2GB) Corsair Dominator 1066Mhz Dual Channel DDR2. in terms of speed in rendering, mas mabilis ang mas mataas na frequency.
explain ko sayo ng mabuti kung papaano ba nag wo-work ang memory para lalong makatulong sa pag decide mo....
habang tumataas ang "GB" syempre mas madaming na-cacache ang memory, sa ganong paraan, di na nya kailangan balik balikan pa yung mga data na binabasa nya habang ginagamit mo sya. once napuno na yung cache, ilalabas nya yung very first data na nasa queue tapos ipapasok nya yung new data. yung "Mhz" naman is yung speed ng pag read ng data nung memory. mas mataas ang Mhz, mas mabilis mag basa.
pero in your case, I think 8GB will be overkill. mas bagay ang 8GB para sa 3D motion. I would suggest get the 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 rather than the XMS. then later on, if you have the budget and still want to make it 8GB, then buy another pair of Dominator, atleast hindi nasayang ang investment mo sa memory. by the way, paalala lang, 4GB RAM cannot be fully utilized by a 32 bit operating system.
HTH
Re: PC Specs
ang meron lang ako, benchmark ng games. hahaha...hotrod wrote:no budget pa sa vcard, it doesnt help naman when it comes to rendering.hehe
baka upgrade ko later pag may budget na
mayron ba scene dito to use for benchmark?
Re: PC Specs
necrolyte wrote:@kietsmark
pero in your case, I think 8GB will be overkill. mas bagay ang 8GB para sa 3D motion. I would suggest get the 4GB Corsair Dominator 1066 rather than the XMS. then later on, if you have the budget and still want to make it 8GB, then buy another pair of Dominator, atleast hindi nasayang ang investment mo sa memory. by the way, paalala lang, 4GB RAM cannot be fully utilized by a 32 bit operating system.
HTH
thanks bro malaking tulong to para makapagdecide ako hehehe. merong 4 slots ang mobo ko and ang nakalagay sa manual na maximum capacity sa ram is 8GB. salamat sa paalala, i am using vista x64 kaya ayos lang. meron din kasi akong plan na upgrade ng mobo from GA-965P-DQ6 to EP45-DQ6. kaya good choice nga ung dominator para later-on mobo naman and talagang gusto ko makahawak ng 8GB na ram hindi lang para sa work... sa games na rin lol
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Re: PC Specs
Hi Guys, have tried rendering on the new icore7, here are some render times using vray.
q6600- 2mins50secs(4 threads)
920icore7= 1min36secs (8 threads)
stock ghz lahat, 4gb yun q6600 dual channel, 3gb yun 920icore7 tri channel.
Baka maka tulong sa mga gustong bumili ng new units.
q6600- 2mins50secs(4 threads)
920icore7= 1min36secs (8 threads)
stock ghz lahat, 4gb yun q6600 dual channel, 3gb yun 920icore7 tri channel.
Baka maka tulong sa mga gustong bumili ng new units.
Re: PC Specs
@hotrod
fully utilized na kasi ng Core i7 ang mga core threads ng processor eh, kaya maganda na talaga itong nilabas ng Intel. Pero sa ngayon satisfied pa naman ako sa Q6600 ko. hehehe...
fully utilized na kasi ng Core i7 ang mga core threads ng processor eh, kaya maganda na talaga itong nilabas ng Intel. Pero sa ngayon satisfied pa naman ako sa Q6600 ko. hehehe...
Re: PC Specs
necrolyte wrote:@hotrod
fully utilized na kasi ng Core i7 ang mga core threads ng processor eh, kaya maganda na talaga itong nilabas ng Intel. Pero sa ngayon satisfied pa naman ako sa Q6600 ko. hehehe...
i agree! Q6600 the best!!! kaso masyadong mainit ano bro? yan bang Corei7 e oks lang kahit stock fan muna? or talagang mabilis din uminit?
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Re: PC Specs
I noticed on the longer render times, corei7 almost renders twice as fast. Matipid sa kuryente, kasi 2 q6600 kaya lang sa 1 corei920
Hindi pa cya naka OC.
Hindi pa cya naka OC.
Re: PC Specs
Core i7 is the best!!!!!!! Thus far. If anyone gets a chance by grabbing this technology, I strongly suggest you do so! Ang galing! 8 BUCKETS NA ANG UMAANDAR AT MAKIKITA NYO SA RENDERING NOH!!! Hehehehe talagang overwhelming lang mga bros and sis.......
Hehehehehe.. talagang makakatipid kayo sa kuryente sa bilis ba namang matapos ng trabaho nyo noh... Malalaro nyo pa ang mga pinaka malulupit na games!!!! Har har har..
Hehehehehe.. talagang makakatipid kayo sa kuryente sa bilis ba namang matapos ng trabaho nyo noh... Malalaro nyo pa ang mga pinaka malulupit na games!!!! Har har har..
ronski_g- CGP Apprentice
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Re: PC Specs
@ronski_g
yup, kung may budget, why not dba? pero parang kung baga sa pinoy na "pwede na yan!" ay pwede na nga yung Q6600. and for most of the people na naka Q6600 ngayon, magastos ang mag upgrade to Corei7 dahil kailangang palitan pati motherboard, memory and even have to modify the motherboard screw holes inside the casing and worst is to buy a new one.
yup, kung may budget, why not dba? pero parang kung baga sa pinoy na "pwede na yan!" ay pwede na nga yung Q6600. and for most of the people na naka Q6600 ngayon, magastos ang mag upgrade to Corei7 dahil kailangang palitan pati motherboard, memory and even have to modify the motherboard screw holes inside the casing and worst is to buy a new one.
Re: PC Specs
kaso po dba ang i7 is parang hyperthread lng na quad core. so hindi talga sya totaly 8 cores. parang kada core naka hyperthread. and speed increase daw is mga 60% lng.. correct me if im wrong na lng po.
sobrang mahal kasi eh
processor 17 k
board 20 k
memory 12 k
sobrang mahal kasi eh
processor 17 k
board 20 k
memory 12 k
crayzard- CGP Apprentice
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Re: PC Specs
@crayzard
depende siguro sa kung anong motherboard ang kukunin mo, merong mura lang, yung Intel, pero syempre mag uupgrade ka na rin lang bakit hindi pa yung mas magandang brand diba? basta ang gastos ng pag upgrade to Corei7 ay more or less P50k.
hindi lang yung hyper threading ng bawat cores ang pinagkaiba nya sa mga older quad. pati architecture ng mismong processor ay binago na nila at ngayon ay mas na-uutilized ng husto yung mga cores kaya kung mapapansin mo pati motherboard ay nadamay na sa pag palit ng socket at hindi na nila sinundan yung dating LGA 775.
http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=38497,37586,37582,885492&familyID=1&culture=en-US
depende siguro sa kung anong motherboard ang kukunin mo, merong mura lang, yung Intel, pero syempre mag uupgrade ka na rin lang bakit hindi pa yung mas magandang brand diba? basta ang gastos ng pag upgrade to Corei7 ay more or less P50k.
hindi lang yung hyper threading ng bawat cores ang pinagkaiba nya sa mga older quad. pati architecture ng mismong processor ay binago na nila at ngayon ay mas na-uutilized ng husto yung mga cores kaya kung mapapansin mo pati motherboard ay nadamay na sa pag palit ng socket at hindi na nila sinundan yung dating LGA 775.
http://compare.intel.com/pcc/showchart.aspx?mmID=38497,37586,37582,885492&familyID=1&culture=en-US
Re: PC Specs
yeah sobrang mahal ng i7, ako kabibili ko lang ng q6600 ko di ko kaya i7..
kung may budget okay lang kung tlgang puro rendering ang gagawin pero
simple modeling okay na quad..
kung may budget okay lang kung tlgang puro rendering ang gagawin pero
simple modeling okay na quad..
Re: PC Specs
ito malupit na specs.
Intel QX9770 Extreme Edition CPU OverClocked to 4Ghz per core giving a total of 16Ghz of Multithreading Power. Along with this the entire Motherboards Chipsets and mosfets are also liquid cooled.
2 x 3870X2 ATI Radeon GPUs in Quad Crossfire Superclocked and liquid cooled. 2GB of Video Memory Pumping those FPS
COMPUTER CASE: Silverstone TJ07
Hardware
• Mobo: DFI X48
• CPU: Intel QX9770 @4Ghz
• GPU: 2x Ati 3870x2's Superclocked
• RAM: OCZ 2x2GB DDR3 1800MHz REAPER X
• PSU: Antec TruePower 1200 Watt PSU
• Sound: Asus Xonar D2 7.1 Ultra Fidelity Sound Card
• Hard Drives: 2x 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor In HW RAID 0
Cooling
• Cooling (Dual Loops)
• DDC Ultras with XSPC Res Tops
• Thermochill PA120.3
• XSPC RS360
• Fuzion 2 CPU Block
• XSPC Razor 3870x2 blocks
• AnFi Tech DFI X48 Blocks
• 3/8" Tubing
• Xilence Red Wing Fans (Red LED)
• Zalman Fan Controller
Intel QX9770 Extreme Edition CPU OverClocked to 4Ghz per core giving a total of 16Ghz of Multithreading Power. Along with this the entire Motherboards Chipsets and mosfets are also liquid cooled.
2 x 3870X2 ATI Radeon GPUs in Quad Crossfire Superclocked and liquid cooled. 2GB of Video Memory Pumping those FPS
COMPUTER CASE: Silverstone TJ07
Hardware
• Mobo: DFI X48
• CPU: Intel QX9770 @4Ghz
• GPU: 2x Ati 3870x2's Superclocked
• RAM: OCZ 2x2GB DDR3 1800MHz REAPER X
• PSU: Antec TruePower 1200 Watt PSU
• Sound: Asus Xonar D2 7.1 Ultra Fidelity Sound Card
• Hard Drives: 2x 300GB Western Digital VelociRaptor In HW RAID 0
Cooling
• Cooling (Dual Loops)
• DDC Ultras with XSPC Res Tops
• Thermochill PA120.3
• XSPC RS360
• Fuzion 2 CPU Block
• XSPC Razor 3870x2 blocks
• AnFi Tech DFI X48 Blocks
• 3/8" Tubing
• Xilence Red Wing Fans (Red LED)
• Zalman Fan Controller
Re: PC Specs
coming from 4870 binenta ko sya and bumalik ako sa 8600 gt d ko gs2 driver support ng 4870 specialy sa 3dsmax sobrang bagal. nagsisi nga ako bat pa ko bumili msi 4870, dapat gtx 260 na lng...
eto ako ngayun nag tsatsaga sa saphire 8600 gt.
eto ako ngayun nag tsatsaga sa saphire 8600 gt.
crayzard- CGP Apprentice
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Re: PC Specs
baka po 4870 yung 2 gpu.. 4870 isa lng po..
crayzard- CGP Apprentice
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Re: PC Specs
madami nga nag sasabi, hindi daw compatible ang mga ATI graphics card sa 3D rendering. could it be a driver issue or dahil hindi pa nila na aayos yung shader?
pansinin nyo, kahit sa GPU-Z, hindi lumalabas ang Shader value ng ATI cards
refer to these screenshots:
ATI 4870 GPU-Z
NVIDIA GTX 280 GPU-Z
pansinin nyo, kahit sa GPU-Z, hindi lumalabas ang Shader value ng ATI cards
refer to these screenshots:
ATI 4870 GPU-Z
NVIDIA GTX 280 GPU-Z
Re: PC Specs
lahat ng mga ATI graphic cards, hindi talaga detected yung shader, kahit sa mga sinaunang model nila.
Re: PC Specs
4850 gamit ko and mabagal din nung una sa max 2009 (actually kahit ung 8800gts gamit ko before), pero after ko update to sp1 ung max ok na mabilis na sya. Ang dual gpu lang ung mga cards na may suffix na X2(ATI) or GX2(Nv).
Madaming misinformation sa internet kaya madaming misleading statements na kumakalat at nagpapasa-pasa, and most are subjective opinions that can be true for some, but not for everyone.
Anyway, kelangan nyo consider na magkaiba architecture ng ATI at Nv cards so hindi mo pwedeng compare basta basta ung specs like clock speed or kung pano basahin ng isang 3rd party app ung card.
As far as i know for ATI cards the shader clock speed is the same as the gpu core clock speed, increase the gpu core and you increase the shader clocks, it's not better or worse than Nv, just different designs.
If you want to get more technical you can read this review:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341
Di ko binasa lahat yan kakahilo hehe.
Madaming misinformation sa internet kaya madaming misleading statements na kumakalat at nagpapasa-pasa, and most are subjective opinions that can be true for some, but not for everyone.
Anyway, kelangan nyo consider na magkaiba architecture ng ATI at Nv cards so hindi mo pwedeng compare basta basta ung specs like clock speed or kung pano basahin ng isang 3rd party app ung card.
As far as i know for ATI cards the shader clock speed is the same as the gpu core clock speed, increase the gpu core and you increase the shader clocks, it's not better or worse than Nv, just different designs.
If you want to get more technical you can read this review:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341
Di ko binasa lahat yan kakahilo hehe.
insurgent- CGP Newbie
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Registration date : 23/09/2008
Re: PC Specs
Sir insurgent, any new cheap PC configuration intended for 3D and Rendering... i'm looking of getting a new PC... Thanks!
silvercrown- CGP Apprentice
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Re: PC Specs
sir crayzard di ko nagets sabi mu..
sir insurgent ung sa akin wala cyang x sa name pero dual gpu cya..
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=969
ang X po ata ng Palit is for the memory.. X2 po nila is 2Gig while sa normal is 1gig lang..
sir insurgent ung sa akin wala cyang x sa name pero dual gpu cya..
http://www.palit.biz/main/vgapro.php?id=969
ang X po ata ng Palit is for the memory.. X2 po nila is 2Gig while sa normal is 1gig lang..
Re: PC Specs
Anyway, kelangan nyo consider na magkaiba architecture ng ATI at Nv cards so hindi mo pwedeng compare basta basta ung specs like clock speed or kung pano basahin ng isang 3rd party app ung card.
yup, I know. pero ang sinasabi ko yung about sa pagiging incompatible ng ATI graphics card sa mga application for 3D rendering. ang dami ko na kasing nakausap na sinasabing hindi daw pwede yung ATI na pang 3D, syempre hindi ko pa rin masabi kung totoo nga dahil unang una, NVIDIA ang gamit ko at pangalawa ay hindi naman ako nag 3-3D. theoretically speaking, nasabi ko lang na "baka" dahil sa shader kaya nagiging mabagal or hindi gumagana yung ATI sa rendering.
Re: PC Specs
@silvercrown: Di ako updated sa prices sa ngayon bosing pero sa pchub ako bumibili:
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
@Akira: bosing hindi dual gpu yan kung di ako nagkakamali Dual ung model name kasi dual fans and dual bios yata: stock and OCed, marketing label lang ung Dual parang Quad series ng Gigabyte mobos. Kung dual gpu sya dapat mae-enable mo CrossfireX.
Review of the same model:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1648/palit_radeon_hd_4870_sonic_1gb_graphics_card/index.html
@necrolyte: not sure what you mean kasi hindi naman ginagamit sa rendering GPUs unless RTSquare gamit mong plugin. Like I said, I'm using a 4850 in Max 2009 coming from 8800GTS 640 and wala naman akong problems related sa display/viewport and actually mas mabilis sya even after I modded the 8800 into an emulated Quadro. I have friends din na gumagamit ng ATI cards with no problems so ang naiisip ko lang baka sobrang low-end/old models ang nagagamit ng mga kakilala mo, mahirap kasi sa pinas madaming manloloko na pc shops, lalo na pag hindi ka familiar bibirahan ka ng mga technical jargon para isipin mo na maganda ung binebenta sayo.
Pahabol lang mga bosing, ang sinasabing hindi detected sa gpu-z ung shader clocks and gaya ng nabanggit ko supposedly same speed un ng core clocks so hula ko di na inilagay ni w1zzard kasi redundant na, pero malay ko ba talaga hehe, kita naman kasi sa upper part ng gpu-z 800 unified shaders.
http://www.tipidpc.com/useritems.php?username=PCHub
@Akira: bosing hindi dual gpu yan kung di ako nagkakamali Dual ung model name kasi dual fans and dual bios yata: stock and OCed, marketing label lang ung Dual parang Quad series ng Gigabyte mobos. Kung dual gpu sya dapat mae-enable mo CrossfireX.
Review of the same model:
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1648/palit_radeon_hd_4870_sonic_1gb_graphics_card/index.html
@necrolyte: not sure what you mean kasi hindi naman ginagamit sa rendering GPUs unless RTSquare gamit mong plugin. Like I said, I'm using a 4850 in Max 2009 coming from 8800GTS 640 and wala naman akong problems related sa display/viewport and actually mas mabilis sya even after I modded the 8800 into an emulated Quadro. I have friends din na gumagamit ng ATI cards with no problems so ang naiisip ko lang baka sobrang low-end/old models ang nagagamit ng mga kakilala mo, mahirap kasi sa pinas madaming manloloko na pc shops, lalo na pag hindi ka familiar bibirahan ka ng mga technical jargon para isipin mo na maganda ung binebenta sayo.
Pahabol lang mga bosing, ang sinasabing hindi detected sa gpu-z ung shader clocks and gaya ng nabanggit ko supposedly same speed un ng core clocks so hula ko di na inilagay ni w1zzard kasi redundant na, pero malay ko ba talaga hehe, kita naman kasi sa upper part ng gpu-z 800 unified shaders.
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