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Post by ERICK Sun May 10, 2009 6:13 pm

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im going crazy with this bump!!! hehehehe... have you encountered this? no bumps on side and top? only infront is visible... ngayon lang nangyari sakin to.. di ko ma figure out kagabi pa.. hehehe... pa help naman po.. thanks in advance

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Post by v_wrangler Wed May 27, 2009 10:16 pm

Here's the original file rendering

From Drop Box

The bumps are actually working, this is noticable in the columns since it has no diffuse map, the patterns you see are actually the bumps. The details and bumps on the steps are not noticable because of the way max handles bitmap filtering. There are two solutions that I could think of to make them more prominent; one is to turn off Bitmap Filtering in the Globals parameters and simply let the antialiasing filters (Catmul-Rom as set up by Erick) do its work.

Here it is without Bitmap Filtering:
From Drop Box

While it might not be perfect, you can now notice how the bumps on the angles frontal to the cameras look better than with Bitmap Filtering. This can be further improved by adding a bit of specularity. Like Standard mats, you will not see your bumps if you do not make them specular:

From Drop Box

The problem lies not in the absence of bump mapping but by the extreme angle the camera was set. Remember that Max will try to filter the fine bump maps and diffuse maps that Erick was using. The task gets nastier the farther the details move away parallel to the camera. If you try to render the original file from a different view, I am sure that it will be visible. The second way to make them visible is of course thru displacement mapping.

Goodluck.


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Post by v_wrangler Wed May 27, 2009 10:19 pm

And btw if you ever use Displacement Mapping, use VraybmpFilter map - it doesn't smoothen out the maps like max default's does.
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Post by ERICK Wed May 27, 2009 10:33 pm

wow.... you're truly a messiah... hehehe... where can i find that vraybmapfilter map? sorry la po akong max dito sa office...
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Post by v_wrangler Wed May 27, 2009 10:44 pm

ERICK wrote:wow.... you're truly a messiah... hehehe... where can i find that vraybmapfilter map? sorry la po akong max dito sa office...

Hello Erick,

If your vray installation is set up properly - you will find it in the mat/map browser. It's a regular vray map along with vrayhdri, vrayedgestex, etc. etc.
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Post by cloud20 Wed May 27, 2009 10:49 pm

Jeeze Vert where do you find time to analyze everything? Its either you've got a huge obsessive-compulsive disorder of godzilla magnitude or you've somehow found a way to slow down time without you actually slowing down with it...
Very helpful tips kuya...
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Post by ERICK Wed May 27, 2009 10:54 pm

v_wrangler wrote:
ERICK wrote:wow.... you're truly a messiah... hehehe... where can i find that vraybmapfilter map? sorry la po akong max dito sa office...

Hello Erick,

If your vray installation is set up properly - you will find it in the mat/map browser. It's a regular vray map along with vrayhdri, vrayedgestex, etc. etc.

ayus ser.. thanks a lot ng marami! nyak... try ko sa haus mamayang pag uwi... sana di ako kabahan.. nyehehehe.. thanks ulit... and more power sayo kuya... peace man
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Post by AUSTRIA Wed May 27, 2009 10:54 pm

Thanks Sir vertex....laking tulong to sir..tama ka eh camera angle din kasi na experiment ko na to pero sabi ko sa sarili ko baka mali ako at may ibang solution pa...try ko nga tong tips mo salamat ulit God bless bro thumbsup
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Post by v_wrangler Thu May 28, 2009 12:38 am

cloud20 wrote:Jeeze Vert where do you find time to analyze everything? Its either you've got a huge obsessive-compulsive disorder of godzilla magnitude or you've somehow found a way to slow down time without you actually slowing down with it...
Very helpful tips kuya...

Bunsoy - perhaps it's the itch in me Very Happy I had a few minutes naman kanina during my lunch break. Very Happy I hope Erick sort it out na.
Salamat din Austria, sometimes it helps to know that some things are bound to happen - we can only avoid those things from happening if we know what actually causes it.

mamaya ulit!
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Post by denz_arki2008 Thu May 28, 2009 12:45 am

thanks sir vertex sa mga info.................. the messiah ka talaga.....
ha ha ha ... ganda ng avatar mo sir malamang di ka tatablan ng N1H1 nyan.....he he he
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Post by ERICK Thu May 28, 2009 1:40 am

denz_arki2008 wrote:thanks sir vertex sa mga info.................. the messiah ka talaga.....
ha ha ha ... ganda ng avatar mo sir malamang di ka tatablan ng N1H1 nyan.....he he he

honga no.. pansin ko nga... hehehe.. thanks ulit kuya messiah hippie
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Post by nomeradona Thu May 28, 2009 1:50 am

ang galing talaga ng bentot.. ngayon tingnan mo avatar. si bentot takot sa bantot.... sorry erick for a bit of cheesy stuff in your thread,
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Post by ERICK Thu May 28, 2009 3:06 am

nomeradona wrote:ang galing talaga ng bentot.. ngayon tingnan mo avatar. si bentot takot sa bantot.... sorry erick for a bit of cheesy stuff in your thread,


ayos lang... parang celebration na din.. .hihihi.... go ahead po...
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