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interesting conversation
by glensky Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:10 pm
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A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has
with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . ..
Professor : You are Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . .. . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
(Student had no answer)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.
Tell me, son .. . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD?
Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.
(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )
Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,
a Little Heat or No Heat.
But we don't have anything called Cold.
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it?
In reality, Darkness isn't.
If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.
You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought.
It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavour,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?
(The Class was in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?
(The Class broke out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says that You have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly !
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.
NB:
I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so . . .
You'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you?
Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.
That student was Albert Einstein!
enjoy it
A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION
An Atheist Professor of Philosophy was speaking to his Class on the Problem Science has
with GOD, the ALMIGHTY. He asked one of his New Christian Students to stand and . . ..
Professor : You are Christian, aren't you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, you Believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD Good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor : Is GOD ALL - POWERFUL ?
Student : Yes.
Professor : My Brother died of Cancer even though he Prayed to GOD to Heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill.
But GOD didn't. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent )
Professor : You can't answer, can you ? Let's start again, Young Fella.
Is GOD Good?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Is Satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor : Where does Satan come from ?
Student : From . .. . GOD . . .
Professor : That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this World?
Student : Yes.
Professor : Evil is everywhere, isn't it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor : So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer)
Professor : Is there Sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness?
All these terrible things exist in the World, don't they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor : So, who Created them ?
(Student had no answer)
Professor : Science says you have 5 Senses you use to Identify and Observe the World around you.
Tell me, son .. . . Have you ever Seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor : Tell us if you have ever Heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor : Have you ever Felt your GOD, Tasted your GOD, Smelt your GOD?
Have you ever had any Sensory Perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.
Professor : Yet you still Believe in HIM?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my Faith.
Professor : Yes, Faith. And that is the Problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as Heat?
Professor : Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as Cold?
Professor : Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn't.
(The Lecture Theatre became very quiet with this turn of events )
Student : Sir, you can have Lots of Heat, even More Heat, Superheat, Mega Heat, White Heat,
a Little Heat or No Heat.
But we don't have anything called Cold.
We can hit 458 Degrees below Zero which is No Heat, but we can't go any further after that.
There is no such thing as Cold.
Cold is only a Word we use to describe the Absence of Heat.
We cannot Measure Cold.
Heat is Energy.
Cold is Not the Opposite of Heat, sir, just the Absence of it.
(There was Pin-Drop Silence in the Lecture Theatre )
Student : What about Darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as Darkness?
Professor : Yes. What is Night if there isn't Darkness?
Student : You're wrong again, sir.
Darkness is the Absence of Something
You can have Low Light, Normal Light, Bright Light, Flashing Light . . .
But if you have No Light constantly, you have nothing and it's called Darkness, isn't it?
In reality, Darkness isn't.
If it is, were you would be able to make Darkness Darker, wouldn't you?
Professor : So what is the point you are making, Young Man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your Philosophical Premise is flawed.
Professor : Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the Premise of Duality.
You argue there is Life and then there is Death, a Good GOD and a Bad GOD.
You are viewing the Concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure.
Sir, Science can't even explain a Thought.
It uses Electricity and Magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.
To view Death as the Opposite of Life is to be ignorant of the fact that
Death cannot exist as a Substantive Thing.
Death is Not the Opposite of Life: just the Absence of it.
Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your Students that they evolved from a Monkey?
Professor : If you are referring to the Natural Evolutionary Process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed Evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a Smile, beginning to realize where the Argument was going )
Student : Since no one has ever observed the Process of Evolution at work and
Cannot even prove that this Process is an On-Going Endeavour,
Are you not teaching your Opinion, sir?
Are you not a Scientist but a Preacher?
(The Class was in Uproar )
Student : Is there anyone in the Class who has ever seen the Professor's Brain?
(The Class broke out into Laughter )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's Brain, Felt it, touched or Smelt it? . . .
No one appears to have done so.
So, according to the Established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol,
Science says that You have No Brain, sir.
With all due respect, sir, how do we then Trust your Lectures, sir?
(The Room was Silent. The Professor stared at the Student, his face unfathomable)
Professor : I guess you'll have to take them on Faith, son.
Student : That is it sir . . . Exactly !
The Link between Man & GOD is FAITH.
That is all that Keeps Things Alive and Moving.
NB:
I believe you have enjoyed the Conversation . . . and if so . . .
You'll probably want your Friends / Colleagues to enjoy the same . . . won't you?
Forward them to Increase their Knowledge . . . or FAITH.
That student was Albert Einstein!
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Re: interesting conversation
by tutik Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:14 pm
AUSTRIA wrote:tutik wrote:Austria medyo subjective na i-discuss pero advise ko nalang is to take part on a Christian Life Program (CLP) or Days With The Lord (Kursilyo) if you are a baptized Catholic. sangkatutak na pabaon ang ibibigay Nya sa iyo.
Born again Christian po ako sir...kaya nga gustong gusto ko ang topic na to...Nakaka bless at Nakaka inspire when you hear and read bout Gods words....God bless Cgpinoy....
cool Austria! i respect the fact that despite our differences in beliefs, we can commune harmoniously in this forum. God bless us all!
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Re: interesting conversation
by tutik Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:21 pm
kurdaps! wrote:tutik wrote:Austria medyo subjective na i-discuss pero advise ko nalang is to take part on a Christian Life Program (CLP) or Days With The Lord (Kursilyo) if you are a baptized Catholic. sangkatutak na pabaon ang ibibigay Nya sa iyo.
We are on the 7th talk this coming Friday in CLP.I'm glad you are a part of it Glen.
'ts good to hear Kurdaps and congrats! i was part of it during my SFC days (more than 10 yrs ago).
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:27 pm
cool Austria! i respect the fact that despite our differences in beliefs, we can commune harmoniously in this forum. God bless us all!
Hehehe uu nga noh bakit kaya? Well for me its not a matter of religion naman eh as long as you believe in his words (Bibble) and believe Jesus as your lord and personal saviour wala naman sigurong problema dyan sir ,kaya lang nagkakaiba lang tayo ng interpretasyon
kaya maraming religion sa pinas eh. Secondly Who is Jesus? Is he God or a man only? Mahirap pag usapan to pero magandang topic siya huwag lang sana hahantong sa debate at personalan pa. As bible says, di dapat i debate kundi i share mo
ang salita niya......God bless us all
Hehehe uu nga noh bakit kaya? Well for me its not a matter of religion naman eh as long as you believe in his words (Bibble) and believe Jesus as your lord and personal saviour wala naman sigurong problema dyan sir ,kaya lang nagkakaiba lang tayo ng interpretasyon
kaya maraming religion sa pinas eh. Secondly Who is Jesus? Is he God or a man only? Mahirap pag usapan to pero magandang topic siya huwag lang sana hahantong sa debate at personalan pa. As bible says, di dapat i debate kundi i share mo
ang salita niya......God bless us all
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Re: interesting conversation
by Guest Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:04 am
can i just have a question?....
do you actually believe that jesus was a human being before?? i mean.. un sa bible?? he actually walked here on earth?
or jesus to you was just a pure faith?? meaning.. there was no human involved? just doing the right thing in life .. and all those stuff
just curious ....
is it the same way as i believe in angels .. just angels ..
do you actually believe that jesus was a human being before?? i mean.. un sa bible?? he actually walked here on earth?
or jesus to you was just a pure faith?? meaning.. there was no human involved? just doing the right thing in life .. and all those stuff
just curious ....
is it the same way as i believe in angels .. just angels ..
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:46 am
KettleRenderer wrote:can i just have a question?....
do you actually believe that jesus was a human being before?? i mean.. un sa bible?? he actually walked here on earth?
or jesus to you was just a pure faith?? meaning.. there was no human involved? just doing the right thing in life .. and all those stuff
just curious ....
is it the same way as i believe in angels .. just angels ..
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:51 am
Nice question mam....share ko na rin po...(usapan lang po walang debate hah) Well let the bible speaks...Jesus is 100% God and 100% Human..Marahil ang
iba sa inyo magtatanong pwede ba yun sir?Oo naman diyos siya eh at siya lang makakagawa nun bumababa siya dito sa lupa para tubusin ang mga kasalanan natin pero kahit kailan man di nangibabaw ang pagka diyos niya,In short diyos na binalutan ng tao. So dalawa ang nature niya ang pagka diyos niya at pagkatao....
Kung may bible ka mam madami verses diyan na palagi may equality na si Jesus at si God ay iisa subukan mo basahin s Mateo or Juan 10:30 ang verse para babasahin mo talaga hehehe.. sinabi ni Kristo na "Ako at ang ama ay iisa" Ang lahat ng sumasapataya sa kanya ay sumasampalataya sa akin. KAhit sa Mateo marami din equality na siya ay diyos talaga at ikaw bilang kristiyano dapat alam mo rin na siya ang daan para tayo ay maligtas (john 3:16)not by our good works kundi by accepting him as your lord and saviouur then good works will follow .AMEN.....(read the bible sa mateo at Juan baka sabihin mo niloloko kita eh mahirap na baka sabihin wala na naman ako basihan hehehe 
) God bless mam sana makatulong sa tanong mo...
Same thing naman sa mga Angels totoo sila mam...maraming beses binanggit sa bible ang mga Angels...Sa Mateo 4:6 pa rin sinasabi na sila ang gumagabay kay kristo mula pagkabata hanggang mamatay siya. Alam nga natin lahat na si Satanas ay dating angel din dahil
sumuway siya at gusto niya maging katulad ng diyos kaya siya hinulog mula s alangit...Mas mapalad tayong mga tao kasi tayo may forgiveness(1john 2:2) pero ang angel walang kapatawaran kasi nakikita nila ang diyos...Sana makatulong mam just PM na lang or dito kung may tanong ka pa basta yung kaya ko lang sagutin according to bible lang pag uusapan natin...God bless mam....
(You dont have to agree just read the bible na lang sa mga verses na sinabi ko para malaman mo na rin GBY)
iba sa inyo magtatanong pwede ba yun sir?Oo naman diyos siya eh at siya lang makakagawa nun bumababa siya dito sa lupa para tubusin ang mga kasalanan natin pero kahit kailan man di nangibabaw ang pagka diyos niya,In short diyos na binalutan ng tao. So dalawa ang nature niya ang pagka diyos niya at pagkatao....
Kung may bible ka mam madami verses diyan na palagi may equality na si Jesus at si God ay iisa subukan mo basahin s Mateo or Juan 10:30 ang verse para babasahin mo talaga hehehe.. sinabi ni Kristo na "Ako at ang ama ay iisa" Ang lahat ng sumasapataya sa kanya ay sumasampalataya sa akin. KAhit sa Mateo marami din equality na siya ay diyos talaga at ikaw bilang kristiyano dapat alam mo rin na siya ang daan para tayo ay maligtas (john 3:16)not by our good works kundi by accepting him as your lord and saviouur then good works will follow .AMEN.....
(read the bible sa mateo at Juan baka sabihin mo niloloko kita eh mahirap na baka sabihin wala na naman ako basihan hehehe ) God bless mam sana makatulong sa tanong mo...Same thing naman sa mga Angels totoo sila mam...maraming beses binanggit sa bible ang mga Angels...Sa Mateo 4:6 pa rin sinasabi na sila ang gumagabay kay kristo mula pagkabata hanggang mamatay siya. Alam nga natin lahat na si Satanas ay dating angel din dahil
sumuway siya at gusto niya maging katulad ng diyos kaya siya hinulog mula s alangit...Mas mapalad tayong mga tao kasi tayo may forgiveness(1john 2:2) pero ang angel walang kapatawaran kasi nakikita nila ang diyos...Sana makatulong mam just PM na lang or dito kung may tanong ka pa basta yung kaya ko lang sagutin according to bible lang pag uusapan natin...God bless mam....
(You dont have to agree just read the bible na lang sa mga verses na sinabi ko para malaman mo na rin GBY)
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Re: interesting conversation
by cloud20 Thu Apr 23, 2009 7:58 am
Master Austria, babae si KettleRenderer... As Homer Simpson would say; 'doh...
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Thu Apr 23, 2009 12:42 pm
cloud20 wrote:Master Austria, babae si KettleRenderer... As Homer Simpson would say; 'doh...
Ayyy patawad po mam babae pala kayo KettleRenderer
Salamat po Sir Cloud heheheh...
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Re: interesting conversation
by 3d_aDdiK Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:00 am
AUSTRIA wrote:Nice question mam....share ko na rin po...(usapan lang po walang debate hah) Well let the bible speaks...Jesus is 100% God and 100% Human..Marahil ang
iba sa inyo magtatanong pwede ba yun sir?Oo naman diyos siya eh at siya lang makakagawa nun bumababa siya dito sa lupa para tubusin ang mga kasalanan natin pero kahit kailan man di nangibabaw ang pagka diyos niya,In short diyos na binalutan ng tao. So dalawa ang nature niya ang pagka diyos niya at pagkatao....
Kung may bible ka mam madami verses diyan na palagi may equality na si Jesus at si God ay iisa subukan mo basahin s Mateo or Juan 10:30 ang verse para babasahin mo talaga hehehe.. sinabi ni Kristo na "Ako at ang ama ay iisa" Ang lahat ng sumasapataya sa kanya ay sumasampalataya sa akin. KAhit sa Mateo marami din equality na siya ay diyos talaga at ikaw bilang kristiyano dapat alam mo rin na siya ang daan para tayo ay maligtas (john 3:16)not by our good works kundi by accepting him as your lord and saviouur then good works will follow .AMEN.....
(You dont have to agree just read the bible na lang sa mga verses na sinabi ko para malaman mo na rin GBY)
sir, for the sake of satisfying my curiosity.... what if i does'nt have faith in your God or your Jesus but i do good works? matitikman ko rin kaya ang langit? hmmmmmm.... 
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Re: interesting conversation
by Guest Tue Apr 28, 2009 4:48 am
3d_aDdik .. depend on your faith .. naniniwala ka ba sa MERON LANGIT? or MERON IMPYERNO??
depende yun sayo.. depende kung pano mo kilala ang Diyos mo ...
depende yun sayo.. depende kung pano mo kilala ang Diyos mo ...
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:05 am
KettleRenderer wrote:3d_aDdik .. depend on your faith .. naniniwala ka ba sa MERON LANGIT? or MERON IMPYERNO??
depende yun sayo.. depende kung pano mo kilala ang Diyos mo ...
Hehehe nice question ulit (Paalala lng po ulit usapan lang walang debate ) lahat ng maisasagot ko ay ayon sa Bibliya, and by the guidance of the holy spirit.Kung babasahin mo ang old testament sir ang tao ay nabubuhay ayon sa Batas ng Diyos ,Ten commandments remember? Pero kung pagbabasihan ay good works wala pong maliligtas lahat tayo sa dagat dagatang
apoy ang punta kasi lahat tayo ay makasalan. Sabi nga sa Isiah 64.6 ang mabuting gawa ay parang
maduming basahan sa paningin ng diyos kung hindi ka naman sumasamapalataya sa kanya. Sir huwag niyo po i misinterpret ang sinabi ko hah na ang "salvation is by faith not by our good works" di po ibig sabihin nito ay excuse kana sa mabubuting gawa
or pwede ka na gumawa ng kasalanan kasi by Faith naman pala eh di po ganun yun...What I mean is "Faith in God " Then Good works will follow. Di po natin kaya magbago sa sarili lang natin kundi by the guidance of Holy Spirit. Salvation is (John 3:16) Sabi niya ibibigay niya ang bugtong na anak niya at ang sinuman sumasampalataya sa kanya ang magkakaroon ng Buhay na walang hanggan..Yes salvation is by Faith but you cannot mock God..."Faith" it means you have to
believe, Follow,Respect and Obey his words...sana makatulong sa tanong mo sir.
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Re: interesting conversation
by 3d_aDdiK Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:20 am
AUSTRIA wrote:KettleRenderer wrote:3d_aDdik .. depend on your faith .. naniniwala ka ba sa MERON LANGIT? or MERON IMPYERNO??
depende yun sayo.. depende kung pano mo kilala ang Diyos mo ...
Hehehe nice question ulit (Paalala lng po ulit usapan lang walang debate ) lahat ng maisasagot ko ay ayon sa Bibliya, and by the guidance of the holy spirit.Kung babasahin mo ang old testament sir ang tao ay nabubuhay ayon sa Batas ng Diyos ,Ten commandments remember? Pero kung pagbabasihan ay good works wala pong maliligtas lahat tayo sa dagat dagatang
apoy ang punta kasi lahat tayo ay makasalan. Sabi nga sa Isiah 64.6 ang mabuting gawa ay parang
maduming basahan sa paningin ng diyos kung hindi ka naman sumasamapalataya sa kanya. Sir huwag niyo po i misinterpret ang sinabi ko hah na ang "salvation is by faith not by our good works" di po ibig sabihin nito ay excuse kana sa mabubuting gawa
or pwede ka na gumawa ng kasalanan kasi by Faith naman pala eh di po ganun yun...What I mean is "Faith in God " Then Good works will follow. Di po natin kaya magbago sa sarili lang natin kundi by the guidance of Holy Spirit. Salvation is (John 3:16) Sabi niya ibibigay niya ang bugtong na anak niya at ang sinuman sumasampalataya sa kanya ang magkakaroon ng Buhay na walang hanggan..Yes salvation is by Faith but you cannot mock God..."Faith" it means you have to
believe, Follow,Respect and Obey his words...sana makatulong sa tanong mo sir.
sir... paano na yung hindi naniniwala kay christ? paano na yung mga nasa tribo? paano na yung di inabot ng bible? may kilala akong aeta..di nya alam ang bible ..pero ambait nya bro... may barkada akong muslim.. ambait nya rin bro..nililibre nya kami 
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:33 am
3d_aDdiK wrote:AUSTRIA wrote:KettleRenderer wrote:3d_aDdik .. depend on your faith .. naniniwala ka ba sa MERON LANGIT? or MERON IMPYERNO??
depende yun sayo.. depende kung pano mo kilala ang Diyos mo ...
Hehehe nice question ulit (Paalala lng po ulit usapan lang walang debate ) lahat ng maisasagot ko ay ayon sa Bibliya, and by the guidance of the holy spirit.Kung babasahin mo ang old testament sir ang tao ay nabubuhay ayon sa Batas ng Diyos ,Ten commandments remember? Pero kung pagbabasihan ay good works wala pong maliligtas lahat tayo sa dagat dagatang
apoy ang punta kasi lahat tayo ay makasalan. Sabi nga sa Isiah 64.6 ang mabuting gawa ay parang
maduming basahan sa paningin ng diyos kung hindi ka naman sumasamapalataya sa kanya. Sir huwag niyo po i misinterpret ang sinabi ko hah na ang "salvation is by faith not by our good works" di po ibig sabihin nito ay excuse kana sa mabubuting gawa
or pwede ka na gumawa ng kasalanan kasi by Faith naman pala eh di po ganun yun...What I mean is "Faith in God " Then Good works will follow. Di po natin kaya magbago sa sarili lang natin kundi by the guidance of Holy Spirit. Salvation is (John 3:16) Sabi niya ibibigay niya ang bugtong na anak niya at ang sinuman sumasampalataya sa kanya ang magkakaroon ng Buhay na walang hanggan..Yes salvation is by Faith but you cannot mock God..."Faith" it means you have to
believe, Follow,Respect and Obey his words...sana makatulong sa tanong mo sir.
Ang aeta,sanggol,pipi, isama mo na ang mga may kapansanan sila ang mga taong mapapalad bro kasi di nila narinig ang salita ng diyos so it means di sila kasali...Deutoronomy 29:29 may mga bagay na ang diyos lang nakakaalam so it means di natin yun problema bro kasi tayo alam natin na may bibliya..Do you remember Magdalena sa bibliya yung time na ipinagtanggol siya ni Jesus laban sa nag aakusa sa kanya sinabi ni Jesus ang sinuman na walang kasalan ay bumato sa babaeng ito pero walang bumato so it means nobodys perfect may mabait Oo pero nakakagawa rin ng kasalanan.Regarding muslim ayaw ko mag comment bout that mahirap
na and I do respect their beliefs,,,, naniniwala nga sila kay Jesus kahit propeta lang po. Kaya dapat huwag natin isugal ang salvation natin bro....
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Re: interesting conversation
by 3d_aDdiK Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:26 am
AUSTRIA wrote:Kaya dapat huwag natin isugal ang salvation natin bro....
where can i find that salvation? hmmmm.... iba iba ang binebenta.... different beliefs...different faith... different Christs...different GODS...
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Re: interesting conversation
by Tinvin Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:53 am
3d_aDdiK wrote:AUSTRIA wrote:Kaya dapat huwag natin isugal ang salvation natin bro....
where can i find that salvation? hmmmm.... iba iba ang binebenta.... different beliefs...different faith... different Christs...different GODS...
oo nga, e paano naman yung mga alien na nasa ibang planeta?
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Re: interesting conversation
by 3d_aDdiK Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:58 am
Tinvin wrote:3d_aDdiK wrote:AUSTRIA wrote:Kaya dapat huwag natin isugal ang salvation natin bro....
where can i find that salvation? hmmmm.... iba iba ang binebenta.... different beliefs...different faith... different Christs...different GODS...
oo nga, e paano naman yung mga alien na nasa ibang planeta?
lol .. ibang belief naman yan
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:16 am
3d_aDdiK wrote:Tinvin wrote:3d_aDdiK wrote:AUSTRIA wrote:Kaya dapat huwag natin isugal ang salvation natin bro....
where can i find that salvation? hmmmm.... iba iba ang binebenta.... different beliefs...different faith... different Christs...different GODS...
oo nga, e paano naman yung mga alien na nasa ibang planeta?
lol .. ibang belief naman yan
Hehehehehe....
Grabe naman yan OT na to ehheheh nice bro...Ang bible ay iisa lang bro at di lang basta isinulat may purposedin, and I do beleive bible ay nangyayari na sa ngayon. Segundo,Minuto at Oras na pag ikot ng araw ay accurate na nakasaad sa bible and which is Science explained too. Like what Ive said im not forcing you to beleive its my principles according to bible.
So just pray na lang bro kung talagang hinahanap mo ang katotohanan Im sure matutulungan ka niya.
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Re: interesting conversation
by denz_arki2008 Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:18 am
Every color and every hue
Is represented by me and you
Take a slide in the slope
Take a look in the kaleidoscope
Spinnin' round, make it twirl
In this kaleidoscope world
Is represented by me and you
Take a slide in the slope
Take a look in the kaleidoscope
Spinnin' round, make it twirl
In this kaleidoscope world
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Re: interesting conversation
by 3d_aDdiK Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:41 am
KettleRenderer wrote: .. depend on your faith ..depende yun sayo.. depende kung pano mo kilala ang Diyos mo ...
sir austria... i feel and maybe it all ends up here ... it all ends up what menchie says
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Re: interesting conversation
by AUSTRIA Tue Apr 28, 2009 7:57 am
Nice chatting with you guys...by this conversation natutoto tayo sa bawat isa and I respect all of that..God bless us all
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Re: interesting conversation
by dpyxl Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:03 am
to sum it all up, it really depends on what's made you happy, what made us satisfy.. as they say, faith is personal, we have difference in beliefs and opinions.. what really matter is what you do this very moment.. bad or good, then its your call, though were still human after all.
so 3d_aDik, what do you believe?
so 3d_aDik, what do you believe?
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Re: interesting conversation
by eyecon01 Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:38 am
haha, amazing topic, I'm loving this... AUSTRIA I applaud you... your explanation is quite amazing! Of course since I share the same belief as you do, baka me konting biases ako.
Mga bro, just think about this. Just a view of my personal principles : If God is False and hell is just an Illusion, then I will die loosing nothing, yet have lived a good satisfying life. If God is True and hell is a fact, then I will certainly go to hell if I do not have faith. This is the principle I live in. to remind me that I am just living a borrowed life.
Remember that God came down to save us all in the form of Jesus, Yes all of us, believers and none believers, so its your turn whether you believe or not, the choice is yours.
GOd bless mga bro.
Mga bro, just think about this. Just a view of my personal principles : If God is False and hell is just an Illusion, then I will die loosing nothing, yet have lived a good satisfying life. If God is True and hell is a fact, then I will certainly go to hell if I do not have faith. This is the principle I live in. to remind me that I am just living a borrowed life.
Remember that God came down to save us all in the form of Jesus, Yes all of us, believers and none believers, so its your turn whether you believe or not, the choice is yours.
GOd bless mga bro.
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Re: interesting conversation
by tawaqqul Tue Apr 28, 2009 2:55 pm
Kumusta po mga Bro at sis....pasensya na po ngayon ko lang nakita ang topic na ito...Isa akong Muslim at nabasa kong lahat ang napag usapan dito. Natagal ko nang gustong pag usapan ito dito...at para sa aming mga Muslim ,,, Sinabi ng Allah (ng Diyos na makapangyarihan sa lahat) Ang lahat ng kasalanan ay mapapatawad ko...maliban lamang sa Isa (ang pagsamba sa mga diyos diyosan maliban sa Allah)..sinabi rin ng Allah na ang pananampalataya ay likas ("Fitrah" sa arabic) lika at banal na pagsunod sa kalooban ng Diyos...kami po ay naniniwala sa lahat ng Propeta ng pantay pantay at walang dapat itangi...kung babalikan lang po natin ang mga istorya at kwento ng buhay ng mga propetang nagdaan,,,lahat po sila ay iisa ang mensahe....ang kilalanin at sumunod sa kautusan ng nag iisang Diyos at tagapaglikha...Sir Austria good day po...hindi po ako nakikipag debate, ipinaliliwanag ko lang po ang aking nalalaman tungkol sa relihiyon...sapagka't nabasa ko rin po ang Bibliya noong ako ay kristiyano pa...pero ngayon na Muslin na ako Alhamdulillah...mas marami pa akong nalaman na katotohanan na hindi ko nalaman noong ako ay hindi pa muslim... Aminado po ako... dati malaking katanungan din sa akin relihiyon kung kaya't nagbasa ako ng Bibliya...Totoo po hindi bilang Muslim, hindi po kami naniniwala na si Jesus ay Diyos, bagkus naniniwala po kami na si Jesus ay isang dakilang Propeta ng Diyos (Allah)...at hindi po kami naniniwala na si Jesus ay ipinako sa krus, ginagalang po namin si Jesus kung kaya't ayaw namin na may nagsasalita ng hindi totoo tungkol sa buhay niya...sa katotohanan po mas marami pa akong natutunan ngayon sa buhay ni jesus kaysa noong kristiyano pa ako...at correction lang po...Hindi po Jesus ang pangalan niya...noon pong panahon na iyon ay wala pa pong mga pangalan katulad nito Jesus, Joseph, Peter, John,Jude.....at yung pangalan po ni Pablo ay hindi pablo..(Siya po ay si Saul na isang Hudyo at hunter ng mga Kristiyano....paalala lang po kung gusto nating malaman ang ibang katotohanan...dadagan po natin ang ating pagsusumikap....bibliya rin po ang nagsabi... seek the truth and the truth will set you free....Sa bibiliya rin po nabanggit ang pangalan ng Diyos...(noong si Jesus ay nakapako sa Krus...diba may binanggit siya na pangalan kung saan siya nananalangin....sabi niya (Elli, Elli lama sabactani) may mga pagkakataon din sa bibliya na binanggit ang pangalan ng Diyos bilang Elloihim , Elloi ang mga kataga pong ito ay mga semitic languages na Aramaic, Hebrew at arabic at iisa lang po ang ibig sabihin nito....Diyos na makapangyarihang sa lahat...kaya't bilang mga Muslim katulad ng mga naunang mga Propeta at katulad ni Jesus kami po ay sumasamba, sumusuko at tumatalima lamang sa iisang tagapalikha...sa Islam po walang sapilitan sa pananampalataya katungkulan po namin bilang mga Muslim na ipaliwanag ang kautusan ng Allah (Nag iisang diyos) ng walang bayad di po kami tumatanggap ng anumang kapalit sa pagtupad sa aming katungkulang...kung meron pong ibang katanungan, bukas po ako sa pakikipag usap at pagpapaliwag tungkol sa relihiyon....
Importante po ang relihiyon sapagkat ang taong walang relihiyon at laging nabubuhay sa landas ng kadiliman...Salamat po mabuhay po tayong lahat dito sa cgp...
Importante po ang relihiyon sapagkat ang taong walang relihiyon at laging nabubuhay sa landas ng kadiliman...Salamat po mabuhay po tayong lahat dito sa cgp...
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Re: interesting conversation
by cloud20 Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:19 pm
Hmmmmmm... A point to ponder; Christians & Muslims have the same patriarch... Abraham... Correct me if I'm wrong...
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