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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 6:44 pm

mga sir... try to get some details about this cameras... gusto ko sna malamn comparison nla...
medyo naeengganyo din kse ako magphotography...
and kung ok n dn sir pati n a rn ung mga right stores d2 sa pinas... d ko kse alm kng san pupunta pra sa mga right prices
salamat in advance mga sir... peace man peace man
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Post by bokkins Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:11 pm

Hidalgo bro. Harap ng SM Carriedo.

450d gamit ko, maganda din. Mas mura yata ang d60, maganda din un. actually, kung ano ang kaya ng budget, dun ka. wala naman kasi talaga sa camera. Bili ka na para maenjoy mo kagad ang pagpiture piture. 2thumbsup
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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:48 pm

actually sir nkta ko nga mas mahl ung canon... mins kung aford ko ung canon dun ako...? wla bang specs comparison, pansin ko kse iba gmt nla dito sir... gusto ko sna malamn ung advantages and disadvantages nla each other... pero kung wla heheh!! ayus... susugod nko sa hidalgo sir... dancer
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Post by kurdaps! Sun Mar 01, 2009 7:50 pm

Canon Lens are more expensive compare to Nikon...dunno sa other cameras; e.g. Sony. Very Happy
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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:19 pm

but in performance and tibay nmn sir kurdaps pareho lng ba sir.. is there a rison bkt mahl ung canon lens... or its just the brand thats expensive?
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Post by bokkins Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:58 pm

mas mahal nikkor lens kaysa canon bro or depende lang sa specs. ung 50mm ng nikon is 7,200 sa mall, while 5k lang sa canon. madami gumagamit ng nikon sa forum. konti lang canon. so i guess wala talaga sa camera yan. kaya sugod na. 26k yata ang nikon d60 sa hidalgo. mas mura sa singapore ng halos 10k, kaso malayo. hehe. Smile
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Post by tutik Sun Mar 01, 2009 9:35 pm

1. specs side-by side comparison:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos450d%2Cnikon_d60&show=all

some points you would consider:
- CMOS vs. CCD sensor (google it out)
- sensor size (this is more important than image resolution or megapixel count)
- w/ live view or not
- lcd size (note bigger lcd doesn't mean quality preview, see # of LCD dots)

2. ergonomics - try it out in the shops and compare. i bet 70% of your decision will be based on this one.

3. pricing - get what you can afford at the moment and make the most out of it (but don't expect too much. formulate a certain workflow that will compensate for features not included in your camera). if you have doubts or needed a much expensive camera/specs, save till you can afford one.

4. lenses? (there's a lot more other than pricing to consider)
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/nikon-vs-canon.htm

5. i'd always advice people (specially artists) to start with 'pro-sumer dlsr's' coz sooner or later they will feel the need to upgrade for better features. both models mentioned falls under 'consumer' so better think twice before really deciding to buy.

whatever it is between the two models, it's a good decision to get a dlsr and start shooting soon! enjoy!
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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:20 pm

bokkins wrote:mas mahal nikkor lens kaysa canon bro or depende lang sa specs. ung 50mm ng nikon is 7,200 sa mall, while 5k lang sa canon. madami gumagamit ng nikon sa forum. konti lang canon. so i guess wala talaga sa camera yan. kaya sugod na. 26k yata ang nikon d60 sa hidalgo. mas mura sa singapore ng halos 10k, kaso malayo. hehe. Smile

eh sir how much sa hidalgo ung 450d? Very Happy
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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:57 pm

tutik wrote:1. specs side-by side comparison:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos450d%2Cnikon_d60&show=all

some points you would consider:
- CMOS vs. CCD sensor (google it out)
- sensor size (this is more important than image resolution or megapixel count)
- w/ live view or not
- lcd size (note bigger lcd doesn't mean quality preview, see # of LCD dots)

2. ergonomics - try it out in the shops and compare. i bet 70% of your decision will be based on this one.

3. pricing - get what you can afford at the moment and make the most out of it (but don't expect too much. formulate a certain workflow that will compensate for features not included in your camera). if you have doubts or needed a much expensive camera/specs, save till you can afford one.

4. lenses? (there's a lot more other than pricing to consider)
http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/nikon-vs-canon.htm

5. i'd always advice people (specially artists) to start with 'pro-sumer dlsr's' coz sooner or later they will feel the need to upgrade for better features. both models mentioned falls under 'consumer' so better think twice before really deciding to buy.

whatever it is between the two models, it's a good decision to get a dlsr and start shooting soon! enjoy!



sir wat falls under pro-sumers?
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Post by tutik Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:33 pm

sir wat falls under pro-sumers?

canon 50d / nikon d90
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Post by bokkins Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:41 pm

36-39 ung 450d bro. 28 ung 1000d then 26k ung d60. un ung last time ko na visit nung january. bumili kami ng 1000d. Maganda din, wala gaanong difference sa 450d. Smile
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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:56 pm

tutik wrote:
sir wat falls under pro-sumers?

canon 50d / nikon d90

there more expensive sir right?... hmmm... is it ok lng b sir to use those models by newbie like me? hobby ko na magphoto shoots... but la pko alm sa manual settings.. the thing is ngaun ko plng naisipan bumili dslr.. sayng nga last yir bumili ako ng dgicam ung canon ixus... eh 20t n un sir.. sna pla dslr na bnili ko...
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Post by reggie0711 Sun Mar 01, 2009 11:59 pm

bokkins wrote:36-39 ung 450d bro. 28 ung 1000d then 26k ung d60. un ung last time ko na visit nung january. bumili kami ng 1000d. Maganda din, wala gaanong difference sa 450d. Smile

nku nangangati na kamay ko ha... What a Face
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Post by torvicz Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:05 am

hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."
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Post by reggie0711 Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:16 am

torvicz wrote:hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."

ayos malaking factor yng cnbi nio sir.. it helps a lot... id rather fil it to my self nga kesa sa pagaralan ko mga specs nla...
buti pa susugod nko sa hidalgo.. magmajor canvas muna.. Very Happy
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Post by kurdaps! Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:17 am

reggie0711 wrote:
torvicz wrote:hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."

ayos malaking factor yng cnbi nio sir.. it helps a lot... id rather fil it to my self nga kesa sa pagaralan ko mga specs nla...
buti pa susugod nko sa hidalgo.. magmajor canvas muna.. Very Happy

Good Luck...sana you will get the right choice for you and di ka magsisisi.

Shot and shot kaagad! buttrock Nakaka-addik yan!
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Post by tutik Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:18 am

torvicz wrote:hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."

told you =)

but it's good to make an informed decision. do your homework, hwag padadala sa impulse. you could already be building up on lenses when you're still stuck with upgrading to a better camera body =)

will quit now before it gets political...enjoy the new gear if ever!
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Post by torvicz Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:25 am

tutik wrote:
torvicz wrote:hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."

told you =)

but it's good to make an informed decision. do your homework, hwag padadala sa impulse. you could already be building up on lenses when you're still stuck with upgrading to a better camera body =)

hehe, dude I did my homework din naman...
google and some members ng 3dp noon...mga reviews sa cannon and nikon.
baguhan kase ako sa dslr, kaya talagang gusto kong mabili ung worth it talaga.

kaya pagdating sa newbies talagang nikond60 ung halos lumalabas sa reviews...
maliit, lightweight tsaka di masyadong masalimuot ung mga functions...
not to mention ung budget...hehe

Alam kong marami kang alam sa photog dude tutik, kaya nga minsan magtatanong
ako sayo pagdating sa mga lenses, hehe..ok lang ba?
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Post by reggie0711 Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:32 am

hmm.. nkta ko nga maliit ung d60... medyo malaki mga daliri ko at kamy...
kya medyo tumitingn ako ng malaki laki... nakakainganyo tlga kau guys... mukha ako timang dito,pumipindot nko wla nmn ako hwk na camera... hahahahaha!!! anyways ang skt nya sa ulo... wana check it out sooner...
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Post by tutik Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:33 am

torvicz wrote:
tutik wrote:
torvicz wrote:hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."

told you =)

but it's good to make an informed decision. do your homework, hwag padadala sa impulse. you could already be building up on lenses when you're still stuck with upgrading to a better camera body =)

hehe, dude I did my homework din naman...
google and some members ng 3dp noon...mga reviews sa cannon and nikon.
baguhan kase ako sa dslr, kaya talagang gusto kong mabili ung worth it talaga.

kaya pagdating sa newbies talagang nikond60 ung halos lumalabas sa reviews...
maliit, lightweight tsaka di masyadong masalimuot ung mga functions...

Alam kong marami kang alam sa photog dude tutik, kaya nga minsan magtatanong
ako sayo pagdating sa mga lenses, hehe..ok lang ba?

dude Torvics, di ako expert nireresearch ko rin mga advices dito at lalo base sa personal experience. minsan sa pagmamadali may mga namimiss tayong points na di naisasama sa advice. mga features gaya ng bracketing, remote control shutter, remote flash commander, gprs, tether mode, etc. maganda ung mga advices na nabanggit nating lahat. i hope nabigyan natin siya ng idea kahit konti at makatulong sa kanyang decision. no problem dude Torvics, marami tayong links at mapagtatanungan tungkol sa mga lenses =)
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Post by torvicz Mon Mar 02, 2009 12:40 am

tutik wrote:
torvicz wrote:
tutik wrote:
torvicz wrote:hehe, ayus yan dude! bumili ka na gat me budget pa...
tsaka mas magandang nagagamit mo na...

once nasa store ka na, try mo hawakan lahat ng choices mo..
mararamdaman mo ung para sayo..trust me....
ganyan ginawa ko nung pinagpilian ko ung canon at nikon....
nikon d60 ung nabili ko...di naman ako nagsisi...

ang camera, camera lang yan...nasa photographer talaga yan!

although may advantage talaga ung high end...
pero don't rely too much on the gadget, remember "u may give a man a les paul, but don't expect him to play like eric clapton..."

told you =)

but it's good to make an informed decision. do your homework, hwag padadala sa impulse. you could already be building up on lenses when you're still stuck with upgrading to a better camera body =)

hehe, dude I did my homework din naman...
google and some members ng 3dp noon...mga reviews sa cannon and nikon.
baguhan kase ako sa dslr, kaya talagang gusto kong mabili ung worth it talaga.

kaya pagdating sa newbies talagang nikond60 ung halos lumalabas sa reviews...
maliit, lightweight tsaka di masyadong masalimuot ung mga functions...

Alam kong marami kang alam sa photog dude tutik, kaya nga minsan magtatanong
ako sayo pagdating sa mga lenses, hehe..ok lang ba?

dude Torvics, di ako expert nireresearch ko rin mga advices dito at lalo base sa personal experience. minsan sa pagmamadali may mga namimiss tayong points na di naisasama sa advice. mga features gaya ng bracketing, remote control shutter, remote flash commander, gprs, tether mode, etc. maganda ung mga advices na nabanggit nating lahat. i hope nabigyan natin siya ng idea kahit konti at makatulong sa kanyang decision. no problem dude Torvics, marami tayong links at mapagtatanungan tungkol sa mga lenses =)

un na! naligaw nako....hehe
dami ko pa talagang di alam....may gprs pa oh... scratch

pero salamat in advance dude tutik..
maiistorbo kita in the near future and for that I apologize in advance...hehe
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Post by tutik Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:30 am

torvicz wrote:un na! naligaw nako....hehe
dami ko pa talagang di alam....may gprs pa oh... scratch

pero salamat in advance dude tutik..
maiistorbo kita in the near future and for that I apologize in advance...hehe

no need to apologize dude Torvicz peace man
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Post by tutik Mon Mar 02, 2009 1:31 am

reggie0711 wrote:hmm.. nkta ko nga maliit ung d60... medyo malaki mga daliri ko at kamy...
kya medyo tumitingn ako ng malaki laki... nakakainganyo tlga kau guys... mukha ako timang dito,pumipindot nko wla nmn ako hwk na camera... hahahahaha!!! anyways ang skt nya sa ulo... wana check it out sooner...

BBB virus in your system already Laughing
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Post by bokkins Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:33 am

Bili ka na muna bro. kahit ano man yan. saka mo palang maiintindihan lahat, lalo na pag hawak mo na.

Ang ibig ko lang sabihin is, madami kang matututunan once hawak mo na and it takes time to buy an upgrade. For a year na pagshoshoot, malalaman mo kung ano pa kulang mo at matagal na panahon pa un. I have a friend who's still using his Nikon D40 now, Kakainggit ng mga kuha. Wala talaga sa camera yan. Not unless gagawin mong business. Smile
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Post by reggie0711 Mon Mar 02, 2009 7:51 am

bokkins wrote:Bili ka na muna bro. kahit ano man yan. saka mo palang maiintindihan lahat, lalo na pag hawak mo na.

Ang ibig ko lang sabihin is, madami kang matututunan once hawak mo na and it takes time to buy an upgrade. For a year na pagshoshoot, malalaman mo kung ano pa kulang mo at matagal na panahon pa un. I have a friend who's still using his Nikon D40 now, Kakainggit ng mga kuha. Wala talaga sa camera yan. Not unless gagawin mong business. Smile

mabuti p nga sir bokkins... start nko magcanvas... buy me hnggt meron pa budget... slamat po sa lht mga sir
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