using layout tabs in autoCAD...

andy32 wrote:for me it's zoom then 1000/100xp if 1:100 scale if you want other scale just change the 100 e.g 1000/200xp, 1000/150xp.. etc.

andy32 wrote:

ronzcobella wrote:ah ganun ba sir...sabi nga nila there's so many way to kill a cat...share mo sir...para sa additional knowledge din...

3d ba yung nakalagay sa viewport mo sa paper space? hindi kaya mabigat yun if ever? kasi i tried it before pag 3d model mo at pag nilagay mo sya sa paper space showing 4 elevations on 4 viewports mabagal at mabigat sya although may nadiscover akong command before which is im using it until now and very helpful that will turn 3d models to 2d, anyway although sa akin iba din way ko sa model space ako gumagawa pero ang printing ko sa paper space, the difference of the two is they have different scale type, the model space is 1:100m and on paper space is 1:1000m and here are my ways to scale a particular drawing in model space and paper space:

on model space:
1. choose a particular scale that you want to use (e.g 1:150)
2. use the CAL command and type 100/150 then the result 0.666666667 is the one you will use for scaling
note:
these are the formulas in changing scale type:
MODEL SPACE:
100/x = x2
100 - (default scale)
x1 - (target scale)
x2 - (result value of the scale conversion)
for example: 100/150 = 0.666666667 (1:150 scale), 100/200 = .5 (1:200 scale), 1:300 = 0.333333333 (1:300 scale) and so on..
3. use the SCALE command or SC
4. Specify base point
5. Specify scale factor or [Copy/Reference]: R
6. Specify reference length <1.00>: (don't change this value)
7. Specify new length or [Points] <1.00>: (enter the result value of the scale conversion, see 2.)

To scale the dimensions on the scaled drawing:
1. type CAL command
2. reverse the process regarding scale conversion for example: 1:150 scale (150/100 = 1.5), 1:200 (200/100 = 2)
3. pick a dimension
4. the go to properties or MO command
5. then look for Primary units then Scale Linear, then you notice that the value is 1
6. change the value (result of the conversion, see 2.)
7. then Match Prop the other dimensions.

To scale a drawing form Paper Space PS:
1. go to Paper Space Tab
2. create a viewport
3. double click inside the viewport to go inside the model space
4. type the zoom command or Z
here are the scale conversions for Paper Space: 1:200 (1000/200xp), 1:150 (1000/150xp), 1:300 (1000/300xp) and so on..
5. Specify corner of window, enter a scale factor (nX or nXP), or
[All/Center/Dynamic/Extents/Previous/Scale/Window/Object] :
6. then enter the scale conversions that you want 1000/100xp (this is 1:100 scale).
7. adjust your viewports.

ninong wrote:

andy32 wrote:for me it's zoom then 1000/100xp if 1:100 scale if you want other scale just change the 100 e.g 1000/200xp, 1000/150xp.. etc.

just want to add lang sir, this is the procedure if you are using METERS in your units (1000/100xp = 1:100 etc.) but if MM used this 1/100xp = 1:100.

ninong wrote:

andy32 wrote:for me it's zoom then 1000/100xp if 1:100 scale if you want other scale just change the 100 e.g 1000/200xp, 1000/150xp.. etc.

just want to add lang sir, this is the procedure if you are using METERS in your units (1000/100xp = 1:100 etc.) but if MM used this 1/100xp = 1:100.

anensan wrote:

andy32 wrote:

ronzcobella wrote:ah ganun ba sir...sabi nga nila there's so many way to kill a cat...share mo sir...para sa additional knowledge din...

3d ba yung nakalagay sa viewport mo sa paper space? hindi kaya mabigat yun if ever? kasi i tried it before pag 3d model mo at pag nilagay mo sya sa paper space showing 4 elevations on 4 viewports mabagal at mabigat sya although may nadiscover akong command before which is im using it until now and very helpful that will turn 3d models to 2d, anyway although sa akin iba din way ko sa model space ako gumagawa pero ang printing ko sa paper space, the difference of the two is they have different scale type, the model space is 1:100m and on paper space is 1:1000m and here are my ways to scale a particular drawing in model space and paper space:

on model space:
1. choose a particular scale that you want to use (e.g 1:150)
2. use the CAL command and type 100/150 then the result 0.666666667 is the one you will use for scaling
note:
these are the formulas in changing scale type:
MODEL SPACE:
100/x = x2
100 - (default scale)
x1 - (target scale)
x2 - (result value of the scale conversion)
for example: 100/150 = 0.666666667 (1:150 scale), 100/200 = .5 (1:200 scale), 1:300 = 0.333333333 (1:300 scale) and so on..
3. use the SCALE command or SC
4. Specify base point
5. Specify scale factor or [Copy/Reference]: R
6. Specify reference length <1.00>: (don't change this value)
7. Specify new length or [Points] <1.00>: (enter the result value of the scale conversion, see 2.)

To scale the dimensions on the scaled drawing:
1. type CAL command
2. reverse the process regarding scale conversion for example: 1:150 scale (150/100 = 1.5), 1:200 (200/100 = 2)
3. pick a dimension
4. the go to properties or MO command
5. then look for Primary units then Scale Linear, then you notice that the value is 1
6. change the value (result of the conversion, see 2.)
7. then Match Prop the other dimensions.

To scale a drawing form Paper Space PS:
1. go to Paper Space Tab
2. create a viewport
3. double click inside the viewport to go inside the model space
4. type the zoom command or Z
here are the scale conversions for Paper Space: 1:200 (1000/200xp), 1:150 (1000/150xp), 1:300 (1000/300xp) and so on..
5. Specify corner of window, enter a scale factor (nX or nXP), or
[All/Center/Dynamic/Extents/Previous/Scale/Window/Object] :
6. then enter the scale conversions that you want 1000/100xp (this is 1:100 scale).
7. adjust your viewports.

sir, pag maraming viewport sa paper space talagang bumibigat ang file khhit hindi 3d ung ibang nasa vport.
3d model that will turn into 2d?...solprof sir ang command...

coco123 wrote:mga masters noob lang din po.

question lang po bakit kaya ganun hindi nagbago ung paper view niya, imbes na paportrait landscape pa din lumalabas kaya pag create ko ng mv tapos off ko ung defpoints kita pa rin ung rectangle line pag pprint na, sinunod ko naman ung tut dito, bakit po kaya? help naman po pls

trying hard wrote:

coco123 wrote:mga masters noob lang din po.

question lang po bakit kaya ganun hindi nagbago ung paper view niya, imbes na paportrait landscape pa din lumalabas kaya pag create ko ng mv tapos off ko ung defpoints kita pa rin ung rectangle line pag pprint na, sinunod ko naman ung tut dito, bakit po kaya? help naman po pls

baka hindi pa naka-layer sa default yung viewport mo sir? pwede mo rin naman syang i-assign sa ibang layer na para lang sa viewport tapos layer off mo lang o kaya non-plot mo, para kahit naka-on lang sya di sya magpapakita sa print mo.

sa viewport mo naman, pwede mo naman sya irotate kung landscape na yung nasimulan mong gawin. just make sure VPROTATEASSOC is set to 0.

gene17 wrote:yung MV- MULTI-VIEW db!! hindi make view!!!