Vray wireframe render

First topic message reminder :

Tanong ko po lang mabilis na ba for 30 min or mabagal pa ang ganitong render? may nakita lang din ako sa cebas final render

whey09 wrote:ang laki ng problema mo bro,

hindi naman ako nagpalaki bakit si bokkins at phrang maayos naman

Sir JoshGroban, paumanhin po. Pero I'm still confused...

hey naborghsoj08,

tingin ko masyadong matagal yung 34 mins per frame for a wireframe render kasi first and foremost hndi mo kaylangan gumamit ng vray pra mag render lang ng wire. if you are using 3dsmax you can just use default scanline pra mka-render lang ng wireframe all you have to do is to apply the wiretex map for the diffuse color,this would only take you a minute if not seconds to render.

or you can use this script to render wireframe and you dont have to change any setting that you already have.
http://www.jokermartini.com/extras/209/Wireframe_Render



with regards to cloud20:

As far as I can see its 34+ minutes, not just 30. Those few extra 4 minutes count a lot when it comes to render times...
And please try to update with a rendered piece; no one can give you a timeframe with just a wireframe...


I'm even more confused...


seriously bro, do you even read the title of this thread? its a wireframe render, its suppose to look like a wireframe.

Kakashi wrote:hey naborghsoj08,

tingin ko masyadong matagal yung 34 mins per frame for a wireframe render kasi first and foremost hndi mo kaylangan gumamit ng vray pra mag render lang ng wire. if you are using 3dsmax you can just use default scanline pra mka-render lang ng wireframe all you have to do is to apply the wiretex map for the diffuse color,this would only take you a minute if not seconds to render.

or you can use this script to render wireframe and you dont have to change any setting that you already have.
http://www.jokermartini.com/extras/209/Wireframe_Render



with regards to cloud20:

As far as I can see its 34+ minutes, not just 30. Those few extra 4 minutes count a lot when it comes to render times...
And please try to update with a rendered piece; no one can give you a timeframe with just a wireframe...


I'm even more confused...


seriously bro, do you even read the title of this thread? its a wireframe render, its suppose to look like a wireframe.

thanks i'm in a rush kasi...I'm new to max in this kind of workflow...hindi ko i-upload yung final render kasi nga I'm concerned lang na bakit umabot ng 34 min or whatever ang 1 frame lang kung aabutin ako ng 5-7 min animation matagal nga yun...napaka tedious task nga kasi kung export ko pa sa iba uulitin nanaman...

Hindi naman ako nagpapaspoonfeed pero 1 lesson lang natutunan ko mag-google na lang kaysa umasa.

Sir JoshGroban, paumanhin po. Pero I'm still confused... Yung mga binanggit nyo po maayos nga magtanong pero I'm sure naguguluhan din sila. Try to recall po, maigsi lang mga tanong ko nung una, maayos din naman po siguro yung unang paraan ko e neh po? Eh hinaluan nyo po ng katatawanan kaya nagpatawa na din po ako. Mukhang kayo po ang nainsulto di po ako.

Eto lang po ha, I'm harsh to those who deserve it.
May request po ako since mahilig kayo magcompile ng data; ipunin nyo po LAHAT ng comments ko dito sa CGP at tingnan nyo po ang ratio ng "mabait" comments ko against my "demonyito" comments. Then tell me if I'm harsh.

honestly speaking sir, kaya maraming naguguluhan sayo kasi yung image na pinost mo, wireframe lang siya na parang screen shot lang, kung pwede nyo ipost sir yung rendered image nyo na kamukha nung nasa video para maliwanagan kami,,

naborghsoj08 wrote:

Kakashi wrote:hey naborghsoj08,

tingin ko masyadong matagal yung 34 mins per frame for a wireframe render kasi first and foremost hndi mo kaylangan gumamit ng vray pra mag render lang ng wire. if you are using 3dsmax you can just use default scanline pra mka-render lang ng wireframe all you have to do is to apply the wiretex map for the diffuse color,this would only take you a minute if not seconds to render.

or you can use this script to render wireframe and you dont have to change any setting that you already have.
http://www.jokermartini.com/extras/209/Wireframe_Render



with regards to cloud20:

As far as I can see its 34+ minutes, not just 30. Those few extra 4 minutes count a lot when it comes to render times...
And please try to update with a rendered piece; no one can give you a timeframe with just a wireframe...


I'm even more confused...


seriously bro, do you even read the title of this thread? its a wireframe render, its suppose to look like a wireframe.

thanks i'm in a rush kasi...I'm new to max in this kind of workflow...hindi ko i-upload yung final render kasi nga I'm concerned lang na bakit umabot ng 34 min or whatever ang 1 frame lang kung aabutin ako ng 5-7 min animation matagal nga yun...napaka tedious task nga kasi kung export ko pa sa iba uulitin nanaman...

in that case, i provided a link of a script. all you have to do is run the script and render. wala ka nang babaguhin sa setting mo.
if you dont know how to run a script, go to MAXScript tool bar s taas then select Run Script >> (select mo yung script) >> meron lilitaw na floating window nung wireframe renderer script then render. you also change the color right there and then.

hope that helps

@sir Kakashi, further proof that I'm seriously confused with what the TS intends with this post.?..??..

I do read title threads; its basically what I see of all things first before I even open a thread.

no need na-answer na yung concern ko...
kasi nga because of this one:

Do you even recognize the avatar? Matipid po ang question ko dahil yun nga; confused ako (not in the gender way mind you). Kasi nga walang linaw ang thread eh? Second page na ito pero di niyo pa rin naipararating kung ano talaga gusto niyo malaman o kung ano paman ayan o naguguluhan nanaman ako... Unang una ang sabi nyong render eh wireframe shot di naman render. Tapos nag link kayo malayo naman. Tapos balik kayo ng balik sa 34 minutes na noong una eh 30 minutes. Tapos sabi nyo alam niyo ang wireframe capture pero ang sabi iyo nung una render yun eh ano nga po ba, humihingi naman kami ng rendered shot wala naman ata naisip ko tuloy na di ata kayo gumawa ng model na iyon na wireframe capture na sabi niyo render na hindi naman pala. Tapos naglink kayo sabi niyo "this kind of effect" tapos ng pinuna na hindi naman ganyan ang ginawa niyo sabi niyo "hindi ganyan" eh ano yung "this kind of effect"? Ganyan nga po ba o hinde? Tapos biglang "ganyan halos"? Ganyan po ba o hinde? Hinde po ba o ganyan? Halos po ba o medyo? Tapos "wait lang", "wait a moment"... Abay tapusin nyo po muna kung ano man yang ginagawa niyo at bumalik na lang po kayo. Tapos parang kinakausap niyo po sarili niyo; "hindi ganyan parang ganyang effect sa animation tapos magiging final rendering..wait lang i'm researching...depende ata sa structure ng model...hinaluan ata nya ng solid materials eto kaya hindi ghost ang effect tsaka ambient occlusion yung environment...1 layer lang yung nagawa ko pero parang blueprint effect sana...gagawing kong blue na lang yung diffuse color
d bale na lang sa iba na lang ako magtatanong...parang matagal yung 34 min per frame"...
Tapos sa iba na lang magtatanong pero nagtatanong pa rin. May tanong po ba o wala?... Ah yung 34 minutes pa rin pala? Parang ganoon po ba o hindi parang ganyan o halos ganyan? Settings naman pala ngayon. O parang settings? Medyo settings? O sa iba nalang magtatanong?

Ayan po di na matipid yan... There's more where it came from...
Ako naman po magtatanong, di po ba kayo naguguluhan?...

Intentional itong message mo na mapang-asar kaya ako napasagot. At ngayon parang naiba yung tono at ihip ng hangin.

Ok na hindi ko kayo balak puyatin sa mga notifications. Goodnight!!!

whey09 wrote:honestly speaking sir, kaya maraming naguguluhan sayo kasi yung image na pinost mo, wireframe lang siya na parang screen shot lang, kung pwede nyo ipost sir yung rendered image nyo na kamukha nung nasa video para maliwanagan kami,,

the wireframe shot that you are talking about IS the rendered image. yung video s youtube is just to give you an idea of a wireframe like render it does not necessarily have to look the same.

whey09 wrote:honestly speaking sir, kaya maraming naguguluhan sayo kasi yung image na pinost mo, wireframe lang siya na parang screen shot lang, kung pwede nyo ipost sir yung rendered image nyo na kamukha nung nasa video para maliwanagan kami,,

mukha bang screenshot yung may vray frame stamp? Hindi naman ako expert tulad nyo ilang weeks ko pa lang sinusubukan ito...Naguguluhan or pagod lang sa trabaho...I understand kung hindi pa malinaw isip nyo kung busy din kayo just don't spark a word war and I'm ok.

cloud20 wrote:@sir Kakashi, further proof that I'm seriously confused with what the TS intends with this post.?..??..

I do read title threads; its basically what I see of all things first before I even open a thread.

ok then let me ask you this; do you know what a wireframe render is?

if that's the case sir, bakit sinabi ng TS na "this kind of effect" which is tinutukoy yung video, ang gusto nyang makuha?

Kakashi wrote:

whey09 wrote:honestly speaking sir, kaya maraming naguguluhan sayo kasi yung image na pinost mo, wireframe lang siya na parang screen shot lang, kung pwede nyo ipost sir yung rendered image nyo na kamukha nung nasa video para maliwanagan kami,,

the wireframe shot that you are talking about IS the rendered image. yung video s youtube is just to give you an idea of a wireframe like render it does not necessarily have to look the same.

At last mayroong isang nakakintindi. WIP nga meaning magbabago pa depende sa maacquire ko pang technique. Thanks for this anyways. Goodnight!!!

whey09 wrote:if that's the case sir, bakit sinabi ng TS na "this kind of effect" which is tinutukoy yung video, ang gusto nyang makuha?

here we go again...Common let's sleep and regain a healthy mind. What comes to your mind when you hear the word "kind"? Pag sinabi mong mukhang tao nagbigay ako ng example na amerikano at eto lang ang available na makukuha pero ang gagawin ko ay pinoy anong magagawa ko eh yun ang lang ang kaya ko

whey09 wrote:if that's the case sir, bakit sinabi ng TS na "this kind of effect" which is tinutukoy yung video, ang gusto nyang makuha?

yung naka-post na image s thread is exactly what he wants his render to look like, he`s just asking if the 30-34 min per frame render is too long for a wireframe render. yung video sa youtube is just to give an idea na yung image na binigay nya sa simula is not a printscreen but an actual render.

A wire frame model is a visual presentation of a three dimensional or physical object used in 3D computer graphics. It is created by specifying each edge of the physical object where two mathematically continuous smooth surfaces meet, or by connecting an object's constituent vertices using straight lines or curves. The object is projected onto the computer screen by drawing lines at the location of each edge.

It doesn't necessarily means na kung sinabing wireframe ay pang viewport lang kaya nga "effect" It's like a construction lines that make up the componenent of a geometry. Posting of the rendered image with textures in which yun yung gusto nyo makita dahil dun kayo expert is not necessary. I will compost a video with layers that will transform this "wireframe" render into a final textured/colored computer graphics generated visualization.

cloud20 wrote:Eto lang po ha, I'm harsh to those who deserve it.
May request po ako since mahilig kayo magcompile ng data; ipunin nyo po LAHAT ng comments ko dito sa CGP at tingnan nyo po ang ratio ng "mabait" comments ko against my "demonyito" comments. Then tell me if I'm harsh.

hirap kasi sa atin kapag senior na ayaw magpatalo. Hindi lang naman cgpinoy ang nag-iisang site with Filipino community. I better go kung saan ako komportable.

cloud20 wrote:Eto lang po ha, I'm harsh to those who deserve it.
May request po ako since mahilig kayo magcompile ng data; ipunin nyo po LAHAT ng comments ko dito sa CGP at tingnan nyo po ang ratio ng "mabait" comments ko against my "demonyito" comments. Then tell me if I'm harsh.

Mahilig ako mag-compile ng data para may basehan hindi satsat-satsat lang na parang hindi nagbasa and nawawala sa context.

cloud20 wrote:Eto lang po ha, I'm harsh to those who deserve it.
May request po ako since mahilig kayo magcompile ng data; ipunin nyo po LAHAT ng comments ko dito sa CGP at tingnan nyo po ang ratio ng "mabait" comments ko against my "demonyito" comments. Then tell me if I'm harsh.

I'm not after kung malademonyo or mabait ang isang kritiko ang importante may kapakinabangan sa sasabihin nya.

Kakashi wrote:

whey09 wrote:if that's the case sir, bakit sinabi ng TS na "this kind of effect" which is tinutukoy yung video, ang gusto nyang makuha?

yung naka-post na image s thread is exactly what he wants his render to look like, he`s just asking if the 30-34 min per frame render is too long for a wireframe render. yung video sa youtube is just to give an idea na yung image na binigay nya sa simula is not a printscreen but an actual render.

Page one pa lang po nasagot na yang tanong niya;
"wireframe material in max alone would take you less than 30secs. bakit ka pa mag-vray? 30sec vs. 30mins, you decide."---sir Bokkins.
As for your pointed question; a wireframe render is a rendered wireframe. May iba pa po bang kahulugan iyon? If so, please enlighten me?...
On a side note, kung ako lang po naguluhan sa TS eh mea culpa na kagad ako. But its not the case. Sorry.

Comment lang ako ulit based sa ipinakita mo.

Ways to create a wireframe render outputl:
1. Tama ang ginawa mo. Pro sobrang tagal ang render.
2. In max render rollout, meron dun render as wireframe, seconds lang ang render nun sa scanline.
3. Grab a screen shot and paste it in photoshop. Crop lang ng konti and that's it.

Yes a wireframe presentation looks technical and intelligent. But this kind of presentation is so old school. Sometimes confusing pa kasi nakikita mo ang mga wires na hindi dapat nakikita.

Magiging word war nga yan if you don't learn to accept comments well, or if you don't want to learn out of them.

cloud20 wrote:@sir Kakashi, further proof that I'm seriously confused with what the TS intends with this post.?..??..

I do read title threads; its basically what I see of all things first before I even open a thread.

Reading without absorbing the substance is useless. The question is too simple.

An overabundance of substance without meaning is outright inutile.
What question? There you go again...

Matulog ka na nga lang sir JoshGroban its way past your bedtime makinig ka sa nakakatanda geh na sleep na bukas na yan.

bokkins wrote:Comment lang ako ulit based sa ipinakita mo.

Ways to create a wireframe render outputl:
1. Tama ang ginawa mo. Pro sobrang tagal ang render.
2. In max render rollout, meron dun render as wireframe, seconds lang ang render nun sa scanline.
3. Grab a screen shot and paste it in photoshop. Crop lang ng konti and that's it.

Yes a wireframe presentation looks technical and intelligent. But this kind of presentation is so old school. Sometimes confusing pa kasi nakikita mo ang mga wires na hindi dapat nakikita.

Magiging word war nga yan if you don't learn to accept comments well, or if you don't want to learn out of them.

follow up to statement no. 3 Maliit lang monitor lalabo sa mataas na resolution and I'm planning to animate the material from wireframe to vray material if possible. I don't care if it's old school. There are times na you need to use a vintage technique and kailangan maging aware sa iba't - ibang technique kung kailangang magsimula from basic. Saglit lang naman from wireframe to rendered image. Kung malinis naman yung model maganda din kalalabasan ng wires.

cloud20 wrote:

Kakashi wrote:

whey09 wrote:if that's the case sir, bakit sinabi ng TS na "this kind of effect" which is tinutukoy yung video, ang gusto nyang makuha?

yung naka-post na image s thread is exactly what he wants his render to look like, he`s just asking if the 30-34 min per frame render is too long for a wireframe render. yung video sa youtube is just to give an idea na yung image na binigay nya sa simula is not a printscreen but an actual render.

Page one pa lang po nasagot na yang tanong niya;
"wireframe material in max alone would take you less than 30secs. bakit ka pa mag-vray? 30sec vs. 30mins, you decide."---sir Bokkins.
As for your pointed question; a wireframe render is a rendered wireframe. May iba pa po bang kahulugan iyon? If so, please enlighten me?...
On a side note, kung ako lang po naguluhan sa TS eh mea culpa na kagad ako. But its not the case. Sorry.

"Page one pa lang po nasagot na yang tanong niya; "

kung nasagot na yung tanong nya and you`re still confused is beyond me

"As for your pointed question; a wireframe render is a rendered wireframe. May iba pa po bang kahulugan iyon? If so, please enlighten me?..."

he provided a rendered image from the beginning but why are you asking for the rendered image?

"On a side note, kung ako lang po naguluhan sa TS eh mea culpa na kagad ako. But its not the case. Sorry."

you said you know what is a wireframe render but for some odd reason you`re still confused is again beyond me.

kaya nga sabi ko thread close kasi nasagot na nga eh...ang kulit