Vray Proxy

v_wrangler wrote:My apologies, I got confused.
I won't have the figures now because I have no time to test but base on experience it's faster than if you have the objects raw in the scene.

The greatest benefit in speed you can find when you are rendering lots of polys, It will take a hit in preprocessing, tesselation if you have nono-proxy scenes and the tendencies are max will crash when it loses ram. It is the exact opposite when you have proxies.

Xref's are of course a good way to minimize your viewport resource because they allow you to bring in otehr objects at render time. the problem with xrefs is that they bring in the objects as a separate max file and you will be limited in terms of the amount of geometry max will allow. Vray proxies goes around this limitation because the object is recalled in the rendering process (VRAY) and they aren't in the scene - you just see their display. So basically allowing you to render more geometry than max would allow.

Xref'n a vrayproxy is like making another highway when there's already one in the same location. The only way I'd see one using xrefng a vrayproxy over directly calling the proxy in the scene is when you don't want to tinker with the node inside the scene.

FYI, there's a lot of other ways to proxy an object, XREF is one, MR has one and the versatile Substitude Modifier.

v_wrangler wrote:If you'd just check "Automatically create proxy" (Assuming you saved the original max file prior to proxi'ing), yo ucan do away with the extra reloading of the file and the mapping part.

v_wrangler wrote:I do not understand. The procedure I mentioned is to turn an object present in the scene into a vrayproxy. Nevertheless that's how all proxies start, they have to be in the scene. Assuming you want to use this proxy in another scene, you'll be better off saving this proxy as a max scene and merge. This way you do not need to load the proxy and apply textures again.

arkiedmund wrote:

v_wrangler wrote:I do not understand. The procedure I mentioned is to turn an object present in the scene into a vrayproxy. Nevertheless that's how all proxies start, they have to be in the scene. Assuming you want to use this proxy in another scene, you'll be better off saving this proxy as a max scene and merge. This way you do not need to load the proxy and apply textures again.

This is is exactly what i am doing. I have a folder of max scenes composed only of proxy objects, which i merge to my own scenes.

Galaites07 wrote:ok na mga sir...

In my opinion lang kase ang speed kase na pina-uusapan natin eh just a matter of click and like sir bokkins says its just being used to the process.

Nagulat lang ako dahil sa process na i-save ang proxy into a max file, kase nagiging tatlo na ung file ko. Isang original max, isang proxy (.vrmwsh) at isang max na may proxy. Kase kapag gumagawa ako ng library of proxies dalawang files lang ang gamit ko isang max at isang pure proxy. Ginagawa ko yan for trees and cars at sa iba pang pwedeng i-proxy. Para kapag kailangan na kuha ka nalang ng kuha. Mahirap din sa akin ang process na merging from another file kase kailangan sobrang kabisado mo laman ng file. Unlike kung naka-folder ung mga proxy with the right name eh madaling makita.

Anyways, there are really hundred ways to do a work depending on way you are comfortable with.

Thanks guys.

v_wrangler wrote:This is not specific to Galaites but something I'd like to say to anyone specially to those who have just started with CG and even to those who have been doing it for a living professionally for many years.

CG is always a neverending study. This discipline is constantly evolving faster than you can point a stick at. Which means, it is like culture or mannerisms. Something everybody does or something you have been used to does not mean it is always the right way.

Having an open mind and the capacity to accept change and adapt to new workflows will determine what kind of an artist you will be in the future.

In my years of doing this work and working with people of different backgrounds, I always give weight to the person's ability to digest and accept new techniques for there is no easy way to train a hardened heart - I will just lose time and energies trying to mold a mind that does not accept change.

For change to come, one must first accept the need for change.

Goodluck to everyone.