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by caleb08 Wed May 12, 2010 2:55 am

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by deosrock Wed May 12, 2010 3:44 am

-nice set of works sir..
--work more on glass reflections(IMHO)

by caleb08 Wed May 12, 2010 3:52 am

deosrock wrote:-nice set of works sir..
--work more on glass reflections(IMHO)

thanks po sir.. problema ko rin po yung reflections sa glass, napapansin nyo po wala po skanya nagrereflect n sky? pano po b palabasin yun?

by bicolano Wed May 12, 2010 3:58 am

don, taga naga ka?

by bicolano Wed May 12, 2010 4:19 am

its good to see u here!, welcome to cgp! keep on posting... thumbsup

by caleb08 Wed May 12, 2010 4:19 am

bicolano wrote:don, taga naga ka?

oo

by caleb08 Wed May 12, 2010 4:23 am

bicolano wrote:its good to see u here!, welcome to cgp! keep on posting...

thanks..tagal k na dito cgp?

by cloud20 Wed May 12, 2010 5:20 am

first image; camera view too high, same material on street & street curb (?)... street curb edge too sharp fillet it, try to match your BG with your sunlight, color bleed on carport area, work on glass reflections don't ask me how dahil wala ako sa harap ng computer mo di ko alam ang workflow mo ser, that violet wood is horrible as well as those thin parapets...

second image; a tad better than the first image, get rid of that red tree-plant sa right side, whats that red thing sa may high window parang guhit ng ballpen(?), tuyong dahon floating & simply much too overused pity the lil things, are you faking your lights cause there's something weird right at the firewall leftside, try not to rely too much on post processing to cover up mistakes something I feel was done sa second floor door/window right atop the main entry, window reflections again...

third image; this one's good actually, what happened sa windows on the lower area(?), there are some weird streaks going on in your scenes particularly sa car & some trees...

fourth image; much too bluish-greenish, some weird smudges on the eave lights, maganda na sana ang design but its over burnt,problem on the glass windows see through naman sila ngayon with bare interiors...

fifth image; nice design, very bad choice of colors & materials, its that weird streaks sa colors again result of post pro?...

sixth image; same as image five, kaunting imagination sa groupings ng plants, those sunflowers at the leftmost lower part shouldn't even be there unless naglevitate sila...

finally use the PM function sa kwentuhan imbes na ang images ang pagusapan nagtanungan kung saan nakatira...

by caleb08 Wed May 12, 2010 5:29 am

cloud20 wrote:first image; camera view too high, same material on street & street curb (?)... street curb edge too sharp fillet it, try to match your BG with your sunlight, color bleed on carport area, work on glass reflections don't ask me how dahil wala ako sa harap ng computer mo di ko alam ang workflow mo ser, that violet wood is horrible as well as those thin parapets...

second image; a tad better than the first image, get rid of that red tree-plant sa right side, whats that red thing sa may high window parang guhit ng ballpen(?), tuyong dahon floating & simply much too overused pity the lil things, are you faking your lights cause there's something weird right at the firewall leftside, try not to rely too much on post processing to cover up mistakes something I feel was done sa second floor door/window right atop the main entry, window reflections again...

third image; this one's good actually, what happened sa windows on the lower area(?), there are some weird streaks going on in your scenes particularly sa car & some trees...

fourth image; much too bluish-greenish, some weird smudges on the eave lights, maganda na sana ang design but its over burnt,problem on the glass windows see through naman sila ngayon with bare interiors...

fifth image; nice design, very bad choice of colors & materials, its that weird streaks sa colors again result of post pro?...

sixth image; same as image five, kaunting imagination sa groupings ng plants, those sunflowers at the leftmost lower part shouldn't even be there unless naglevitate sila...

finally use the PM function sa kwentuhan imbes na ang images ang pagusapan nagtanungan kung saan nakatira...

thanks po sir il try to make it better..post ko po ulit using your suggestions

by jhero Wed May 12, 2010 5:38 am

-sir first image yung entourage medyo iba yung finish nya. for me di nagmukhang halaman. and yung color na violet for me di rin maganda... adjust mo sir yung mapping mo rin. and bump pa siguro taasan mo pa

-2nd image sir di bagay yung halaman mo na pula imho lang po. tsaka yung fence mo na bricks wala atang bump kaya flat na flat.. halatang image

-3rd yung tiling ng floor and yung sa grass adjust k dun kasi halata yung tiling ng image

-4th eye level mo na lang sir yung camera para mas maganda

-5th and 6th image yung mga kotse mo malaki ata masyado and yung stone more bump pa po.

yun lang sakin sir keep posting wag tayong magsawa magpractice mapiperfect din natin yan tulad ng mga master natin

by cloud20 Wed May 12, 2010 5:42 am

Well & good sir (sir na lang nasita na ako ni Corpsegrider eh) Caleb pero don't just bow & kowtow to the masters (di ako kasali dyan) or the older (ouch ako yan) members; i-explain mo rin kung bakit naging ganoon ang images, try to defend yourself kase para sa iyo maganda naman yang mga yan di ba para mas dynamic ang sharing of ideas... Impart to them where you're coming from & your frame of mind when you created these works...
Two-way man, two-way...

by caloy Thu May 13, 2010 12:14 am

nice render..astig,pare,,kunti na lang adjustment..hehe

by Galaites07 Thu May 13, 2010 12:28 am

the 4th image is very unique. I dont know how you achieve such but it might be good if you develop this approach to rendering. Architectural or any visualization is not always about photorealism.

by phranq Thu May 13, 2010 2:04 am

sir ano po bang gamit mong renderer? give some/more info about your workflow.

comments:
sa lahat ng image
- textures and mapping issue
* hanap ka ng magagandang materials marami sa free stuff.
* add bump or displace
- color combinations, saturated colors, burn areas and color bleeding.
* research about color combinations.
* bawasan mo intensity ng light source mo adjust mo na rin ang environment
* panoorin mo yung mga tutorials ni sir edosayla sa pinoycad (modelling, texturing and lighting)
- scaling
* dapat nakascale ang mga objects mo pra maachieve mo ang magandang composition.

sa first image camera angle
*dapat normal (man's eye) view, camera height 1.50m - 1.70m

abangan ko mga posts or updates mo. thumbsup

by phranq Thu May 13, 2010 2:07 am

caloy wrote:nice render..astig,pare,,kunti na lang adjustment..hehe

try to be specific about your comment. anong kaunti na lng? scratch

basa muna. http://www.cgpinoy.org/tambayan-f7/how-to-criticize-a-work-a-small-discussion-t11039.htm

by cloud20 Thu May 13, 2010 5:53 am

Galaites07 wrote:the 4th image is very unique. I dont know how you achieve such but it might be good if you develop this approach to rendering. Architectural or any visualization is not always about photorealism.

Of course its not all about photorealism; its about making your work look good. If you're going for the artsy-fartsy mode, sure you can blast away with your light source's intensities or go ahead with that garishly grotesque red color and violet wood and smudge your colors here & there. But I'm pretty sure this work was not meant to be an expressionist painting; it was meant for a paying client to peruse and decide upon whether to let you do the project or not.
What aspects of the fourth image did you find unique sir Galaites? This isn't really that hard to do. Crank up your lighting to a million times the norm. Slap it into photoshop & smudge away on your desired areas. Voila. Unique render. Do you like this fourth image so much that you'd be willing to post it on your multiply account & make a tutorial about it?

Let us not steer the young ones into something which will not benefit them.

by caleb08 Thu May 13, 2010 9:06 pm

sa lahat po ng nag comment maraming salamat po..ang dami na hindi ko na po maiisa isa sagutin or idfend..il keep all your suggestions in mind and try to apply it sa mga susunod kong render..update ko rin po yan lahat using all of your suggestions baka maka chamba maging katulad sa mga masters..hehe..
hindi parin po kasi masyado alam ang 3ds max + vray..3 weeks observation and testing pa po ako..thanks ..

by caleb08 Sat May 15, 2010 5:49 am

cloud20 wrote:fifth image; nice design, very bad choice of colors & materials, its that weird streaks sa colors again result of post pro?...

your right sir post pro yan,..yung color po sir and materials yung client ang may gusto nyan,,nag suggest nman ako ng mas better na color pro gusto nya n tlga yung sakanya.

cloud20 wrote:sixth image; same as image five, kaunting imagination sa groupings ng plants, those sunflowers at the leftmost lower part shouldn't even be there unless naglevitate sila...

well i admit po n talagang inatake n ako ng katamaran kc ilang beses n sken pinaulit yan nung cliente kasi hindi sila magkasundo nung wife nya..

cloud20 wrote:finally use the PM function sa kwentuhan imbes na ang images ang pagusapan nagtanungan kung saan nakatira...

it wad an honest mistake..sobrang bago pa po ako sir hir in CGP hindi ko pa po masyado kabisado mga rules

by cloud20 Sat May 15, 2010 6:34 am

caleb08 wrote:
cloud20 wrote:fifth image; nice design, very bad choice of colors & materials, its that weird streaks sa colors again result of post pro?...

your right sir post pro yan,..yung color po sir and materials yung client ang may gusto nyan,,nag suggest nman ako ng mas better na color pro gusto nya n tlga yung sakanya.

---which can get frustrating sometimes di ba? Ganito teknik ko dyan, I'm not saying you should follow it but if all else fails give it a try; A client meets you at gusto nya magpagawa ng rendering (lets limit it to renders muna para hindi masyado malaki ang scope) sa iyo. Pwedeng Architect yan, Engineer, or yung mismong may ari. Wala siyang dala ng kahit na anong reference, plans elevs, color choices & what have yous. On the onset tell them clearly "we both understand na sa akin nyo po binibigay lahat ng decision making with regards to design, floor plan layout, color choices since sabi nyo na 'ikaw na bahala magaling ka we heard'". You ask them clearly on what type of design their leaning to; modern, med, bali etc. After they say yes to all of these you tell them 'pag nagparevise po tayo sisingilin ko kayo ng minimum half kase depende po sa iparerevise nyo. Ito po ay KADA revision. A simple recoloring is considered as a revision in fact bast me pinalagay po kayo na magiiba sa original revision na po yan". Pag umalma at sinabing e pano kung di namin magustuhan baka pangit sabihin mo na "kung ano man pong design ang ibigay ko sa inyo ay sigurado po ako sa sarili ko na maganda ito at walang mali; wala naman po tayong pagbabasihan ng kung ano ang maganda at mali di po ba dahil wala naman po kayong dala at di po ba sinabi nyo na ako na ang bahala dahil alam ko kung ano maganda" If you do this sa umpisa pa lang edi kahit na sandamakmak na revision yan masaya ka pa rin pero huwag naman sanang sadyain na gawin mong siguradong may iparerevise... Tapatan din natin ang bayad nila... Ngayon naman kung may dala siya aba yari siya diyan di siya makakacomplain dahil gagayahin mo lang naman yung pinagagawa niya.

cloud20 wrote:sixth image; same as image five, kaunting imagination sa groupings ng plants, those sunflowers at the leftmost lower part shouldn't even be there unless naglevitate sila...

well i admit po n talagang inatake n ako ng katamaran kc ilang beses n sken pinaulit yan nung cliente kasi hindi sila magkasundo nung wife nya..

---Pwede pa rin dito yung sagot ko sa taas... Ay naku isa sa mga pinakamahirap na situation yan yung dalawa ang nagdedecide; wala pa yung mga kamaganak niyan or kapitbahay... Alamin mo kung sino ang may hawak ng pera... Siya ang sundin mo...

cloud20 wrote:finally use the PM function sa kwentuhan imbes na ang images ang pagusapan nagtanungan kung saan nakatira...

it wad an honest mistake..sobrang bago pa po ako sir hir in CGP hindi ko pa po masyado kabisado mga rules

---yup, paalala lang yun no worries maanghang lang talaga ako magsalita kase di ka papansinin pag lalamyalamya ka magsalita diba... Post ka ulit himayin nati ulit... Huwag ka basta basta nakikinig sa mga papuri minsan utot lang yan suriin mo din sa sarili mo kung tama ba o mali...

---kitam nakinig ka sa sinabi ko a ipagtanggol mo sarili mo... Me natutunan ka ba?...[/quote]

by caleb08 Tue May 18, 2010 6:16 am

cloud20 wrote:
---yup, paalala lang yun no worries maanghang lang talaga ako magsalita kase di ka papansinin pag lalamyalamya ka magsalita diba... Post ka ulit himayin nati ulit... Huwag ka basta basta nakikinig sa mga papuri minsan utot lang yan suriin mo din sa sarili mo kung tama ba o mali...

---kitam nakinig ka sa sinabi ko a ipagtanggol mo sarili mo... Me natutunan ka ba?...

sir sainyo palang ang dami kko n natutunan hindi lng kung pano makipag usap sa client kung pano rin idifend kung ano ang tlgang nasa isip ko..na hindi sapat makarinig ako ng magagandang salita dahil sa huli ang nasa isip ko parin ang mas mahalaga...thank you sir..

by cloud20 Tue May 18, 2010 11:53 am

Case in point:

Re: Bungalow with Attic
Post by Galaites07 on Sat May 01, 2010 3:50 pm
hi Jarul. always see your post to evermotion.....I think you have talent for more improvement and probably output more realism to your work.
Hope you study more realism in close-up view, more detailed and more photographic.....I personally think that you can do it. BEST of ever.

Re: Acad to Max..pa improve po
Post by Galaites07 on Thu May 13, 2010 2:28 pm
the 4th image is very unique. I dont know how you achieve such but it might be good if you develop this approach to rendering. Architectural or any visualization is not always about photorealism.

---which is which then?...

by ERICK Tue May 18, 2010 7:12 pm

cloud20 wrote:Case in point:

Re: Bungalow with Attic
Post by Galaites07 on Sat May 01, 2010 3:50 pm
hi Jarul. always see your post to evermotion.....I think you have talent for more improvement and probably output more realism to your work.
Hope you study more realism in close-up view, more detailed and more photographic.....I personally think that you can do it. BEST of ever.

Re: Acad to Max..pa improve po
Post by Galaites07 on Thu May 13, 2010 2:28 pm
the 4th image is very unique. I dont know how you achieve such but it might be good if you develop this approach to rendering. Architectural or any visualization is not always about photorealism.

---which is which then?...

@ galaites - ano po ba talaga kuya?
@ tito cloud - miss ko na ung mga ganito mong tirada... as always, i'm a fan...
@ caleb - incorporate cloud's comments... matututo ka dito, parang ako.... si cloud ang nagmulat sakin sa kamunduhan ng acad to 3dsmax workflow...

by caleb08 Tue May 18, 2010 9:02 pm

ERICK wrote:
@ galaites - ano po ba talaga kuya?
@ tito cloud - miss ko na ung mga ganito mong tirada... as always, i'm a fan...
@ caleb - incorporate cloud's comments... matututo ka dito, parang ako.... si cloud ang nagmulat sakin sa kamunduhan ng acad to 3dsmax workflow...

may natutunan n nga ako..but i also admire other master's dami ko rinnatutunan sa iba..anyways its nice to know na may mga taong ganyan na handa tumulong at mag share ng mga nalalaman nila , hindi katulad ng iba na ayaw nila ishare yung nalalaman nila kasi asset daw nila yun..well i cant blame them...

by Galaites07 Wed May 19, 2010 4:59 am

@ cloud my comment is directly to the person who post the work not for you to understand, if he intend to know the reason why i will surely explain it to him in more detail.

The word develop, is what you must understand.

And why ask jarul of a certain thing that is very easy, I thought you already know everything.

Only the youth knows the way to the future.

So dont mind my comments its not for you to understand.

by Galaites07 Wed May 19, 2010 5:08 am

cloud20 wrote:Case in point:

Re: Bungalow with Attic
Post by Galaites07 on Sat May 01, 2010 3:50 pm
hi Jarul. always see your post to evermotion.....I think you have talent for more improvement and probably output more realism to your work.
Hope you study more realism in close-up view, more detailed and more photographic.....I personally think that you can do it. BEST of ever.

Re: Acad to Max..pa improve po
Post by Galaites07 on Thu May 13, 2010 2:28 pm
the 4th image is very unique. I dont know how you achieve such but it might be good if you develop this approach to rendering. Architectural or any visualization is not always about photorealism.

---which is which then?...

-for the reason Jarul has the potential with any other, its my choice what do you care

-for the reason that we dont want all renders to look like jarul's and if you like to follow Jarul style of renders then its up to you anyway so just keep on following someone else work and not creating your own style.

-just like painting creating your own style makes you unique and its not all about photoreal, get it?

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