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is this cheating?
by arjun_samar Sat Nov 07, 2009 4:01 pm
First topic message reminder :
Magandang araw po.
Di ko alam saan ko ba tong section dapat e-post. about cg naman to kaya dito ata.
May kilala ako na masasabing critiq talaga, kahit anung gawin mo, hahanapan ka talaga ng butas, minsan nakita niya yung isang render ko na interior, na may mga abobot. gaya ng 3d plant, 3d toys, shirt, tapos nung nakita niya, unang sabi. ikaw ba nag-model lahat? so my reply was no. sabi ko yung mga abobot drag and drop nalang. at parang pinapalabas niya na pag hindi ikaw nagmodel ng lahat ibig sabihin hindi matatawag na ikaw yung tunay na gumawa. parang CHEATING lang. in my side, hindi ata practical example isang exterior render na maraming cars, people, trees na ikaw pa mismo ang magmomodel nitong cars etc. lalo na pag deadline mo ay a couple of hours lang. tanung ko,talaga bang cheating tawag dun.
salamat po.
Magandang araw po.
Di ko alam saan ko ba tong section dapat e-post. about cg naman to kaya dito ata.
May kilala ako na masasabing critiq talaga, kahit anung gawin mo, hahanapan ka talaga ng butas, minsan nakita niya yung isang render ko na interior, na may mga abobot. gaya ng 3d plant, 3d toys, shirt, tapos nung nakita niya, unang sabi. ikaw ba nag-model lahat? so my reply was no. sabi ko yung mga abobot drag and drop nalang. at parang pinapalabas niya na pag hindi ikaw nagmodel ng lahat ibig sabihin hindi matatawag na ikaw yung tunay na gumawa. parang CHEATING lang. in my side, hindi ata practical example isang exterior render na maraming cars, people, trees na ikaw pa mismo ang magmomodel nitong cars etc. lalo na pag deadline mo ay a couple of hours lang. tanung ko,talaga bang cheating tawag dun.
salamat po.
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Re: is this cheating?
by bongskeigle Sun Nov 08, 2009 7:25 pm
evermotion models are ready made and for a wide range usage. if we want to have a signatured render/output it's our own choice and will. Be responsible...
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Re: is this cheating?
by AUSTRIA Sun Nov 08, 2009 9:54 pm
v_wrangler wrote:I thought I'd answer angain because there is an unconscious dangerous tendency in the replies that I have seen.
First, how do you guys arrive at "naiingit lang yan"? Its funny when I analyze filipino frame of mind. We try to justify something by claiming such as a result of envy and the whole gang suddenly adopt to the same thinking. This is weird. This is dangerous. Wake up people. Analyze the situation when you have the facts, do not put words on somebody else's mouth. That's how a responsible adult should attend to the pressures around him.
Now, to correct some facts. Nevermotion is a word crafted by my good kohai, crayzard. He refers to nevermotion as items for architecture rendering that he modeled and textured himself for some of our past projects. So whatever the reference to the word by Austria - I hope that it was mentioned in good faith.
Somebody mentioned here that the bottomline is "Were you able to get the project/contract?". This is both correct and wrong. If you got the project by posing somebody else's work (evermotion for example) as your own and clients were made to believe so, then that is CHEATING. And I will have very strong opinions about it. If the client liked your render quality and the service you provide - then that is good work. Big difference.
Salamat sa pagpapaliwanag Sir V.... I use NEVERMOTION word kasi just to protect our Site lalo na
halos model natin dito galing sa kanila na alam niyo na walang b....d hope lahat naiintindihan yun.
Sa tingin ko dapat responsible din tayo sa mga Sites na babanggagitin natin dito lalo na kung di legal
ang pagkakuha ng mga LIbrary at Softwares.Regarding naman sa Topic na to sa tutuusin lang di na
to pinag uusapan dito mababaw lang to kaya nga dinaan ko na lang sa JOKE.
Kung Architecture, Interior Designer or any courses na nakapag aral ng Technical Drafting
Im sure alam ang salitang ENTOURAGE ewan ko lang kung exact term nito sa tagalog ay
palamuti or abubots na naririnig ko dito. Mga Tol sa tingin niyo ba kailangan pa natin pag usapan
dito kung kailangan ba I model ang mga Entourage? I think common sense lang na dapat hindi
kasi importante dito ang Design and Rendering ng Exterior/Interior. Di na importante kung ikaw
nagmodel ng Car at Puno ang mahalaga Maganda ang Design and Rendering mo kasi walang nabibiling
Design sa NEVERMOTION......................
Tama si Sir V eh lumalayo na ang sagot sa tanong ng Thread na to.
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Re: is this cheating?
by arjun_samar Sun Nov 08, 2009 10:09 pm
Good Day to all,
Pasensiya na medyo natagalan ang reply ko dito sa thread na to. marami na pala ang sumagot. salamat sa mga sumagot lalo na kay Sir v_wrangler for crystalizing the idea.... marami akong natutunan ngayon, again. salamat sa lahat for the effort of answering my question and your opiñion about this matter.
Gusto ko rin kasi marinig yung mga masasabi ng mga experienced people...
at tama rin si Sir AUSTRIA na nasabi na ang dapat masabi...
GOD BLESS
Pasensiya na medyo natagalan ang reply ko dito sa thread na to. marami na pala ang sumagot. salamat sa mga sumagot lalo na kay Sir v_wrangler for crystalizing the idea.... marami akong natutunan ngayon, again. salamat sa lahat for the effort of answering my question and your opiñion about this matter.
Gusto ko rin kasi marinig yung mga masasabi ng mga experienced people...
at tama rin si Sir AUSTRIA na nasabi na ang dapat masabi...
GOD BLESS
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Re: is this cheating?
by necrolyte Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:04 am
@arjun_samar
isa lang iisipin mo, kikita ka ba sa critiques nila? hehehe.... don't bother about them bro, just focus on your work and your client's satisfaction. dyan ka kikita. hehehe....
isa lang iisipin mo, kikita ka ba sa critiques nila? hehehe.... don't bother about them bro, just focus on your work and your client's satisfaction. dyan ka kikita. hehehe....
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Re: is this cheating?
by ArtDescry Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:07 am
torring wrote:yung mga gumagamit ng evermotion models na galing kay jack sparrow....
i agree with you sir.
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Re: is this cheating?
by ArtDescry Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:11 am
as opened on the earlier forums, i think patented 3d models are useful and less time consuming, as long as you use it as a supporting elements.
to refrain from using pirated ones, there are free models on the www, then map/texturized it yourself at least you exert effort on the supporting elements.
its just my opinion po a.
to refrain from using pirated ones, there are free models on the www, then map/texturized it yourself at least you exert effort on the supporting elements.
its just my opinion po a.
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Re: is this cheating?
by jigen11 Tue Nov 10, 2009 4:40 am
vizualization is like interior designing na din. hindi naman lahat ng nilalagay ng mga interior designer na furnitures and abubots e DESIGNED nila diba.. karamihan e galing sa market. hehe parang anlayo ng comment ko
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Re: is this cheating?
by A.K.A. Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:33 am
ArtDescry wrote:torring wrote:yung mga gumagamit ng evermotion models na galing kay jack sparrow....
i agree with you sir.
sana lang mga bro kung magcocomment kayo ng ganito siguraduhin nyo na kahit minsan hindi kayo gumamit ng hindi licensed na model or softwares or kahit ano pang hindi licensed. pasensya na mga mods. medyo ang plastic kasi ng dating e. nagpapakatotoo lang.
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Re: is this cheating?
by pricklypineapple Sun Nov 15, 2009 10:33 pm
lol...okay just a sarcastic reply...
sabihin mo sa kanya, yung furniture at design nya 'cheating' then kasi bakit yun ulit yung design nya
tapos yung cad nya...sabihin mo bakit ganun yung drawing, sya ba nag drawing 'nun? yung mga blocks at linestyle etc.?
sabihin mo sa kanya, yung furniture at design nya 'cheating' then kasi bakit yun ulit yung design nya
tapos yung cad nya...sabihin mo bakit ganun yung drawing, sya ba nag drawing 'nun? yung mga blocks at linestyle etc.?
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Re: is this cheating?
by Conqueror Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:21 am
thats why may mga forum tayong mga cg artist dahil may tinatawag tayong sharing of knowlegde and ideas. and even mga abubots natin. for me i love to share my abubots hehehe. if your critic is into cg, well he should know better. kung di naman hindi n dapat pinapatolan yang mag kitid n yan.
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Re: is this cheating?
by Conqueror Mon Nov 16, 2009 2:46 am
A.K.A. wrote:ArtDescry wrote:torring wrote:yung mga gumagamit ng evermotion models na galing kay jack sparrow....
i agree with you sir.
sana lang mga bro kung magcocomment kayo ng ganito siguraduhin nyo na kahit minsan hindi kayo gumamit ng hindi licensed na model or softwares or kahit ano pang hindi licensed. pasensya na mga mods. medyo ang plastic kasi ng dating e. nagpapakatotoo lang.
tama!!!! medyo plastic nga ung dating, kasi in the first place p lang nag umpisa tayo mag CG hwag natin sabihin n gumamit n tayo kaagad ng mag licensed n mag abubots. respect man, and understand.
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Re: is this cheating?
by kieko Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:55 am
add ako..
well its Globalization 3.0
the world is flat..
leveraging is the word..
di mo naman kailangan gawin lahat, focus on your core competency
and ito ang panahon ngayon..so i dont see it cheating kung hindi naman primary design..
well its Globalization 3.0
the world is flat..
leveraging is the word..
di mo naman kailangan gawin lahat, focus on your core competency
and ito ang panahon ngayon..so i dont see it cheating kung hindi naman primary design..
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