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Post by arkiedmund Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:54 pm

First topic message reminder :

Friends, i still need to update this. mabagal lang talagang magrender tong makina ko.

Lesson learned: If you are one of those who owns a pre-core 2 duo machine, never ever use a vray sun/cam combo, chances are you will get excessively long render times(10-12hrs on a high resolution image). I still render using the default max cameras and standard lighting most of the time. So this is my 4th vray sun and vray camera render. Vray low, all set to default...

Suggestions are welcome. Updates will be available once renders are done..

View 1
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Just for fun
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Thanks in advance...

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Sa wakas, natapos ko na din. Here are the updates. After some tweaks with the shaders and a change in lighting setup, I was able to drop down rendertimes from 12 hours to 3hours. Take note that I am using a pre-core2 duo machine. Maybe if I run this on a quad it will be under an hour. I tested my previous setup on a quad and it rendered in 2hrs on the average. Thanks to everyone, I learned a lot on the process of doing these images.

Updated main image
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DOF attempt
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A night scene showing the other side of the room
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Post by mammoo_03 Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:45 pm

sir edmund grabehhh, matindi na ito, post pa po, thanks for sharing, astig!!! 2thumbsup

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Post by arkiedmund Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:48 pm

gamer_11 wrote:ganda sir ed..linis... thumbsup buttrock

-sir in my experience pinagsasabay ko rin ang vray cam and sun pero di gaanu katagal ang render same din ang gamit ko sa bahay..tingin ko lang sir eh sa subd ng mga mats mo and siguro sa gamit mo sa carpet which is vray fur i think...lalo na kung nay gamit ka pang ies lighting sa night scene..im sure matagal tlga yun...yun lang sir..pero kahit na..ok na ok naman yung pagaantay mo sir kahit na low sets lang eh..ok na ok pa rin yung output... thumbsup

Tama ka, yung vrayfur din nakapagpatagal niyan, pero, gusto ko kasing magvrayfur para sa scene na to, kasi super simple lang na setup tong ginawa ko, parang ensayo lang din...pag wala naman ng fur, medyo mabilis...he he he..balik na ulit ako sa dati kong setup sa mga next post....

Nakuha ko kay legend enigma yung low settings lang pero, astig pa din render...nasa diskarte lang daw yun.....sana tama na itong ginagawa ko....salamat sa pag pasyal.

mammoo_03 wrote:sir edmund grabehhh, matindi na ito, post pa po, thanks for sharing, astig!!! 2thumbsup

Oo sir, magpopost pa ako....basta patuloy lang kayong mag inspire sa amin dito....salamat...
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Post by effreymm Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:52 pm

Good work sir, ang linis...
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Post by jarul Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:54 pm

gamer_11 wrote:ganda sir ed..linis... thumbsup buttrock

-sir in my experience pinagsasabay ko rin ang vray cam and sun pero di gaanu katagal ang render same din ang gamit ko sa bahay..tingin ko lang sir eh sa subd ng mga mats mo and siguro sa gamit mo sa carpet which is vray fur i think...lalo na kung nay gamit ka pang ies lighting sa night scene..im sure matagal tlga yun...yun lang sir..pero kahit na..ok na ok naman yung pagaantay mo sir kahit na low sets lang eh..ok na ok pa rin yung output... thumbsup

i agree,,,fur ung dhilan kung bakt matgal,,,binbaan mo ba ung mat subdvsion ng mga sofa,,kac sa pagkakaalam ko,,ang taas ng mga subdvsion ng mga sofa na yan...
ganda naman ng output kaya sulti pa din.... thumbsup
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Post by arkiedmund Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:58 pm

effreymm wrote:Good work sir, ang linis...

salamat

jarul wrote:
gamer_11 wrote:ganda sir ed..linis... thumbsup buttrock

-sir in my experience pinagsasabay ko rin ang vray cam and sun pero di gaanu katagal ang render same din ang gamit ko sa bahay..tingin ko lang sir eh sa subd ng mga mats mo and siguro sa gamit mo sa carpet which is vray fur i think...lalo na kung nay gamit ka pang ies lighting sa night scene..im sure matagal tlga yun...yun lang sir..pero kahit na..ok na ok naman yung pagaantay mo sir kahit na low sets lang eh..ok na ok pa rin yung output... thumbsup

i agree,,,fur ung dhilan kung bakt matgal,,,binbaan mo ba ung mat subdvsion ng mga sofa,,kac sa pagkakaalam ko,,ang taas ng mga subdvsion ng mga sofa na yan...
ganda naman ng output kaya sulti pa din.... thumbsup

yung sofa, alam ko mataas subdivs niyan, di ko na inayos...nag region render din ako ng picture frame lang yung malaki sa taas...inabot ako ng 3 hrs...kaya, naisip ko, kelangan ko na talagang pahinga tong pc ko...kahit siguro makatikim lang ako ng core2duo ngayon, tatalon na ako sa kwarto ko...

salamat boss jarul at nagustuhan mo din....
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Post by eisenheim13 Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:37 pm

Ouch. 13 hours is damaging. hirap humabol sa deadline nyan sir. Buti nakaka abot kapa.
Speed vs Quality? diba pwede namang sabay 'yon? Question
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Post by JORGE Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:38 pm

ang linis sir hope maka achieve din ako ng gnitong render,,,awesome bro 2thumbsup
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Post by eisenheim13 Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:40 pm

Ouch. 13 hours is damaging. hirap humabol sa deadline nyan sir. Buti nakaka abot kapa.
Speed vs Quality? diba pwede namang sabay 'yon? Question
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Post by arkiedmund Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:46 pm

eisenheim13 wrote:Ouch. 13 hours is damaging. hirap humabol sa deadline nyan sir. Buti nakaka abot kapa.
Speed vs Quality? diba pwede namang sabay 'yon? Question

Personal project naman sir...pero, for real production work, i still prefer to use standard lights and max's default cameras....and set it up for real fast renders....factor din sir, that i can;t still get the latest processors so, tyagaan nalang muna...
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Post by arkiedmund Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:47 pm

JORGE wrote:ang linis sir hope maka achieve din ako ng gnitong render,,,awesome bro 2thumbsup

Kaya niyo po yan, lalo kung maganda rig niyo...at nasa setup lang din po yun...salamat sa pag pasyal.
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Post by AUSTRIA Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:58 pm

Bro wla nmn yan sa Setting lang eh....Material and Lighting din yan, and I think you made it thumbsup
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Post by snow_blind Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:02 am

nice warm-up sir akiedmund 2thumbsup buttrock
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Post by arkiedmund Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:05 am

AUSTRIA wrote:Bro wla nmn yan sa Setting lang eh....Material and Lighting din yan, and I think you made it thumbsup

Wow...salamat bro austria sa comments....try ko pang gumawa ng maraming marami pa.

snow_blind wrote:nice warm-up sir akiedmund 2thumbsup buttrock

Thanks sir snow_blind.....glad you dropped by \m/ hehehe rak on...
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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:23 am

astig naman sa warm-up... mukhang warm-up to sa matindihan a buttrock since namention mo na low-settings lang to pero superb output, can you share the settings bro? and nacurious ako dun sa sinabi mo na kung vraysun and vraycam combo e nakakapagbagal ng rendering. gaano katotoo un bro?

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Post by arkiedmund Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:49 am

kietsmark wrote:astig naman sa warm-up... mukhang warm-up to sa matindihan a buttrock since namention mo na low-settings lang to pero superb output, can you share the settings bro? and nacurious ako dun sa sinabi mo na kung vraysun and vraycam combo e nakakapagbagal ng rendering. gaano katotoo un bro?

oi bro kiets! Napadaan ka. Setting, bale, naka low lang sa irradiance map. light cache 1000 lang, the rest is default. sa noise threshold 0.005.

Ang gamit ko kasi palagi, standard light lang tapos default camera ng max. Eh dun, kahit taasan ko pa subdivs ng materials ko, 2hrs lang may render na ako, gamit tong pre-historic pc ko. So, nag-render ako ng scene na to na di kasali yung vray fur, ayun, matagal pa nga din. Pero, mas matagal pag may vrayfur. Parang narealize ko, na siguro, designed for later processors na yung mga enhancements nitong vray; i.e.,sun and cam combination.

Balak ko pa din matest. Pero take note, hindi pa core2dou tong processor ko, talagang panahon ng max 7 pa to, gamit pa kasi ni enigma ito, binenta lang sa akin.

Salamat sa pagdaan bro....tuloy ang pananaliksik...personal render po to, walang client, kundi sarili ko lang.
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Post by eisenheim13 Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:00 am

arkiedmund wrote:
kietsmark wrote:astig naman sa warm-up... mukhang warm-up to sa matindihan a buttrock since namention mo na low-settings lang to pero superb output, can you share the settings bro? and nacurious ako dun sa sinabi mo na kung vraysun and vraycam combo e nakakapagbagal ng rendering. gaano katotoo un bro?

oi bro kiets! Napadaan ka. Setting, bale, naka low lang sa irradiance map. light cache 1000 lang, the rest is default. sa noise threshold 0.005.

Ang gamit ko kasi palagi, standard light lang tapos default camera ng max. Eh dun, kahit taasan ko pa subdivs ng materials ko, 2hrs lang may render na ako, gamit tong pre-historic pc ko. So, nag-render ako ng scene na to na di kasali yung vray fur, ayun, matagal pa nga din. Pero, mas matagal pag may vrayfur. Parang narealize ko, na siguro, designed for later processors na yung mga enhancements nitong vray; i.e.,sun and cam combination.

Balak ko pa din matest. Pero take note, hindi pa core2dou tong processor ko, talagang panahon ng max 7 pa to, gamit pa kasi ni enigma ito, binenta lang sa akin.

Salamat sa pagdaan bro....tuloy ang pananaliksik...personal render po to, walang client, kundi sarili ko lang.

Agree ako jan, since talagang yang mga new features ng vray is more on a high quality pc. Pag mababa specs ng pc m, d ka aabot. Tyaga lng tlga kung ano lang ang abot ng specs, ako max 9 parin gamit ko w/ vray sp1 kahit gustong gusto ko na install ung max2k10 & vray sp2 e yoko parin. D xa compatible using low end pc.\ which I'm using right now.

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Post by Guest Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:02 am

arkiedmund wrote:
oi bro kiets! Napadaan ka. Setting, bale, naka low lang sa irradiance map. light cache 1000 lang, the rest is default. sa noise threshold 0.005.

Ang gamit ko kasi palagi, standard light lang tapos default camera ng max. Eh dun, kahit taasan ko pa subdivs ng materials ko, 2hrs lang may render na ako, gamit tong pre-historic pc ko. So, nag-render ako ng scene na to na di kasali yung vray fur, ayun, matagal pa nga din. Pero, mas matagal pag may vrayfur. Parang narealize ko, na siguro, designed for later processors na yung mga enhancements nitong vray; i.e.,sun and cam combination.

Balak ko pa din matest. Pero take note, hindi pa core2dou tong processor ko, talagang panahon ng max 7 pa to, gamit pa kasi ni enigma ito, binenta lang sa akin.

Salamat sa pagdaan bro....tuloy ang pananaliksik...personal render po to, walang client, kundi sarili ko lang.

yan talaga ang makakapagseparate from boys to big guys e in terms of 3dvisualization imho. kahit sino now ay madali ng matutong magrender kaya and pinakabigdeal na e "how fast can you do it?" yan din ang matagal ko ng sinasaliksik hehehe sa observation ko naman, it is the material settings and polygon counts that contribute the most. not to mention those fur, displacement, reflections and number of ies lights you have on the scene din. i hope we will have a true collaboration here or have a scene then same maps, same number of polygons (as in walang babaguhin), same number of ies lights and placements, same vraycam and vraysun or same standard cam with normal cam then magkakaiba na lang sa settings ng materials and cams saka lights. tapos tingnan natin kung sino ang pinakamabilis ang render output with the same resolutions of course. then compulsary na ilagay ung settings sa lahat ng ginamit. material, lightings and cam setup. what you think bro? Rolling Eyes

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Post by SunDance Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:38 am

ayos ang warm up sir..... buttrock me update pba to?
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Post by arkiedmund Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:43 am

@bro kiets: Good idea yan...

SunDance wrote:ayos ang warm up sir..... buttrock me update pba to?

gagawan ng updates...hanapan ko lang ng paraan na mas mapabilis..maraming salamat..
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Post by christine Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:51 am

nice.. ganda ng lighting mo dito sir ed... very realistic yung 2nd image for me... hmmm nice photos sa frame.. is that you with rica? Smile happy 1st! keep it up sir & keep posting Wink
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Post by corpsegrinder Wed Sep 02, 2009 2:53 am

bkit kaya umaabot ng 12 hrs? kc gamit ko rn sa bahay is dual core lng dn 256 vc wala rn upgrade kc hndi ako marunong hehe... kahitano p man, ung relutang image sir ay dabest, like all! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup
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Post by arkiedmund Wed Sep 02, 2009 3:00 am

christine wrote:nice.. ganda ng lighting mo dito sir ed... very realistic yung 2nd image for me... hmmm nice photos sa frame.. is that you with rica? Smile happy 1st! keep it up sir & keep posting Wink

Thanks sister....glad you liked it...till next time...

corpsegrinder wrote:bkit kaya umaabot ng 12 hrs? kc gamit ko rn sa bahay is dual core lng dn 256 vc wala rn upgrade kc hndi ako marunong hehe... kahitano p man, ung relutang image sir ay dabest, like all! thumbsup thumbsup thumbsup

Yung vray fur ko, malaki kasi, tapos some material subdivisions..plus vray sun at vray cam pa yan...ganun pa man satisfied naman ako sa result...salamat at nagustuhan mo din ang aking munting obra....ihahabol ko yung updates at additional images in a few days....
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Post by arki_vhin Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:20 am

nice post namna kahit napatagal ang rendering time sir...sa vray fur matagal nga matagal rendering time...buti hindi nagbrownout sir hehehe....
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Post by deosrock Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:23 am

-galing sir! ganda nman ng gawa mo... 2thumbsup
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Post by torvicz Wed Sep 02, 2009 4:27 am

dude arkeid!

galeng naman nito!

ok lng ung paghihintay ng matagal para saken, basta ganyan ang output....
mas mabuti nang matagal basta quality naman ang kalalabasan dude...
di bale ng konti ang laman ng portfolio basta magaganda naman kesa marami matatabang naman ang quality...

keep it up dude! layo na ng narating mo....saludo ako!
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Post by arkiedmund Wed Sep 02, 2009 5:26 am

arki_vhin wrote:nice post namna kahit napatagal ang rendering time sir...sa vray fur matagal nga matagal rendering time...buti hindi nagbrownout sir hehehe....

Yes, malaki pa man din vray fur ko para dito sa scene na to, kaya super tagal din. Naku, kung nagbrownout, miiyak siguro ako..thanks for dropping by.

deosrock wrote:-galing sir! ganda nman ng gawa mo... 2thumbsup

Thanks sir, part of studies pa din po ito...

torvicz wrote:dude arkeid!

galeng naman nito!

ok lng ung paghihintay ng matagal para saken, basta ganyan ang output....
mas mabuti nang matagal basta quality naman ang kalalabasan dude...
di bale ng konti ang laman ng portfolio basta magaganda naman kesa marami matatabang naman ang quality...

keep it up dude! layo na ng narating mo....saludo ako!

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