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Post by v_wrangler Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:13 am

First topic message reminder :

A sampling of our cheapy interior photomontage works. Done by the Cray's team and a few of our valued Cebuano friends.



And I think this has been posted here already. Nevertheless:



Love thy nEVERMOTION!


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Post by v_wrangler Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:46 am

Thanks everyone!.
Muggz all images you saw were done with max and of course rendered with vray. Photoshop was also used to adjust few of the textures and to perform minor compositing. Some of these even came out straight from a vray render.

I am sure that this is also possible using other 3d applications but I can only expand on how we do it in max. To be honest I don't think there is anything fancy about the workflow but I will document this or perhaps ask cray and group to demonstrate. Now that I think of it - it will probably take more time to write a document or tutorial than actually do the montage.

I know I've promised to write about a bunch of topics in the past and haven't been prompt. I'll try to do it as soon as I find time.

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Post by princessjay Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:58 am

sir, hindi ko po makita ang images dito sa location ko, paki mirror naman if possible.. thanks in advance.. Very Happy
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Post by logikpixel Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:28 am

Thanks for sharing sir vertex very inspiring indeed.
Please do enlighten us on the process of this in V-ray because I know of the mental ray equivalent.
This is where the Production Shaders of MR come in. And it was discussed shortly on sir Edosayla's tutorial. I'll try to write the MR process when time permits. Very Happy
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Post by AUSTRIA Thu Jun 18, 2009 10:42 am

thanks for sharing Loverboy Laughing ... Very nice output and teknik of Presentation...ask ko lang camera match ba to sir?
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Post by Alicecocoz Thu Jun 18, 2009 12:09 pm

AUSTRIA wrote:thanks for sharing Loverboy Laughing ... Very nice output and teknik of Presentation...ask ko lang camera match ba to sir?

I believe this is more of a photomatch since there is no movement to do a camera match. The way I see it, to composite 3d objects into a picture, you need to import the pic onto the 3d software and place the lights according to the location of the sources. You then have to put your models and invisible surface materials on the walls and floor so they would receive shadows and reflections. This is how it's done in Maya and I would love to see how it's done in Max bro Verts Smile
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Post by cgil Thu Jun 18, 2009 3:05 pm

MY TEACHER..MY IDOL.. MY MASTER IS HERE... THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR TALENT SIR... GALING NG PRESENTATION!!! APPROVED... TO ALL YOUR STUFF!!! GOOD WORK...
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Post by carla3d Thu Jun 18, 2009 4:57 pm

wow sir vertex now ko lang nakita to en i love it.,.,galing ng pagkakagawa paturo uy!!!.,., heheh more pa sir.,.,
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Post by corpsegrinder Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:14 pm

1st tym ko mkita ang works nyo na architectural.. dabest!!!
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Post by cloud20 Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:22 pm

Oi kuya Vert yabang mo ha...
Gomenasai hehehehe...
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Post by ERICK Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:23 pm

dabest to itay... hmmmm... wait ko na lang ung tutorial nito... tulo laway habang naghihintay... hihihi...
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Post by nyop Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:35 pm

i like the presentation! Very Happy
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Post by v_wrangler Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:36 pm

princessjay wrote:sir, hindi ko po makita ang images dito sa location ko, paki mirror naman if possible.. thanks in advance.. Very Happy
My apologies. I uploaded a mirror here.
http://vertexwrangler.multiply.com/photos/album/17

logikpixel wrote:Thanks for sharing sir vertex very inspiring indeed.
Please do enlighten us on the process of this in V-ray because I know of the mental ray equivalent.
This is where the Production Shaders of MR come in. And it was discussed shortly on sir Edosayla's tutorial. I'll try to write the MR process when time permits. Very Happy

Thanks Logic, I am sure it is pretty similar - and MR as well can probably benefit from the same technique. I'll try to make time this weekend to come up with something. I wil lprbably becoem an edosayla fan - he's been reaching to a lot of people (which I cannot do) so he gets my support as well.

AUSTRIA wrote:thanks for sharing Loverboy Laughing ... Very nice output and teknik of Presentation...ask ko lang camera match ba to sir?

I'd probably call this "Perspective Match. There really is nothing fancy about it. I'm sure matching be done in just a few minutes by eye.

Alicecocoz wrote:
AUSTRIA wrote:thanks for sharing Loverboy Laughing ... Very nice output and teknik of Presentation...ask ko lang camera match ba to sir?

I believe this is more of a photomatch since there is no movement to do a camera match. The way I see it, to composite 3d objects into a picture, you need to import the pic onto the 3d software and place the lights according to the location of the sources. You then have to put your models and invisible surface materials on the walls and floor so they would receive shadows and reflections. This is how it's done in Maya and I would love to see how it's done in Max bro Verts Smile

Nobody could have explained it better than Alice. Yes, that's just how it was done.

cgil wrote:MY TEACHER..MY IDOL.. MY MASTER IS HERE... THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR TALENT SIR... GALING NG PRESENTATION!!! APPROVED... TO ALL YOUR STUFF!!! GOOD WORK...

Salamat cgil - you really know how to make palambot ng puso. Pero inisnab mo ako sa comment ko sa bedroom image mo ha! Very Happy

carla3d wrote:wow sir vertex now ko lang nakita to en i love it.,.,galing ng pagkakagawa paturo uy!!!.,., heheh more pa sir.,.,

tita carla. yes of course. I'll discuss it further here in the next few days.

corpsegrinder wrote:1st tym ko mkita ang works nyo na architectural.. dabest!!!

I bet you'll see more soon.

cloud20 wrote:Oi kuya Vert yabang mo ha...
Gomenasai hehehehe...

Chempre - mana sa yo eh! Smile
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Post by v_wrangler Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:37 pm

Arigatou nyop. Erick, ginawa mo pa akong fafa ha. Eh di tiyuhin mo si cloud?
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Post by ERICK Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:42 pm

v_wrangler wrote:Arigatou nyop. Erick, ginawa mo pa akong fafa ha. Eh di tiyuhin mo si cloud?

sige ser payag ako... marami na akong kamaganak na master na malulupet.. wahaaha OT na ko... hehehe... itay kelan po ba i post ang tutorial na yan... ang dami nang nasasabik... wahehehe... inuman na
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Post by v_wrangler Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:46 pm

As I said - basta matapos ang labada, plantsa this weekend, I'll cook something for you.
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Post by cloud20 Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:51 pm

v_wrangler wrote:As I said - basta matapos ang labada, plantsa this weekend, I'll cook something for you.

Uwi ka na kase dito kuya Vert hold some classes for us... I guarantee you you'll have all the sisig you want short of landing in the hospital with a mild stroke... Si Erick bahala sa brewskie...
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Post by blackmaled Thu Jun 18, 2009 6:58 pm

nicely done sir vertex. . ..ngayon ko lng nkita tong gawa mo. . tnx for sharing Smile
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Post by jhames joe albert infante Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:19 pm

v_wrangler wrote:I am sure that our people are humbled by all your praises. To be honest, these projects were designed to be very quick and chipipay. And I feel really embarrassed at all your praises. No disrespect to my staff in manila and the other freelancers.

We don't have time for あcamera match so its all mano-mano. We're not too strict either as long as it looks and feel close to the crappy BG photos. I could imagine that it will take perhaps a day or half a day per image if you really make tutok.

As for matching - it all boils down to practice - but hey the other artists that did this - they never had time to prepare.

The process can be summed as :

1. mano match
2. shell the walls/floor plane that can be seen by the camera.
3. Design the space like an interior decorator (make that nevermotions work!)
4. Light it
5. Hocus pocus
6. Render
7. Deliver


So it means - its not really difficult and I am willing of course to teach you all how to do it.

still, these are freakin awesome works sir!! wave
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Post by princessjay Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:44 pm

thank you po, nakita ko na lahat ng images. thanks and keep inspiring.. 2thumbsup
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Post by v_wrangler Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:46 pm

princessjay wrote:thank you po, nakita ko na lahat ng images. thanks and keep inspiring.. 2thumbsup

You yourself is an inspiration. We appreciate your kindness. Send my regards to your family!

BTW, I already invited our great muse at the manila office to join us here, if you have questions I am sure she can also fill you in.
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Post by Vivisik Thu Jun 18, 2009 7:57 pm

galing talaga!
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Post by denz_arki2008 Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:35 pm

astig sir.....................
lupet match na match na match na match...............
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Post by jarul Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:38 pm

eto na..eto na.eto na...naaaaaa... 2thumbsup Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven Like a Star @ heaven
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Post by bokkins Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:41 pm

great stuff bro! great job enising! 2thumbsup buttrock
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Post by marc Thu Jun 18, 2009 9:41 pm

natulala ako sir sa mga gawa nyo
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Post by nomeradona Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:22 am

thanks for sharing vertex. ang galing ng concpet, napakasimple. pero hindi halata yung pag montage sa last image. gusto kong gyahin ang ganito sa sketchup and explore the photomatch capability of SU. thanks again. i love the set.
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