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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 4:22 am

mga dudes patulong naman....

having some problem rendering an image with 2500 resolution or higher.
pwede bang magtanong kung baket nagka-crash ang pc ko.
memory issue ba to? 4 gig lang ram ko e...

minsan merong message na "error creating bitmap"... scratch

TIA mga dudes!
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Post by v_wrangler Tue May 19, 2009 4:29 am

are you sure you have enough disk space? Or are you overwriting a file that is locked?
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Post by v_wrangler Tue May 19, 2009 4:30 am

I'd restart the pc and free the memory. Enable the "Bitmap Pager" in the rendering tab of the Preferences dialog box. It may slow down the render process but it will render just fine. Fingers crossed.
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Post by kurdaps! Tue May 19, 2009 4:45 am

One point:

Check your bitmap(s)...all. Be sure it is not heavy in size. Even if they are big file, make it lighter(save for web).

I hope that helps...
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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 4:48 am

v_wrangler wrote:are you sure you have enough disk space? Or are you overwriting a file that is locked?

this makes sense...kase kagabi try kong overwrite ung isang tga file before rendering....try ko to mamya.
although sa disk space di ko na-check pa dude, scratch baka rin....

ty dude sa reply....
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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 4:50 am

v_wrangler wrote:I'd restart the pc and free the memory. Enable the "Bitmap Pager" in the rendering tab of the Preferences dialog box. It may slow down the render process but it will render just fine. Fingers crossed.


bago rin to! di ko pa to na-try! salamat ng malaki dude verts!
try ko lahat to! thumbsup
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Post by ARCHITHEKTHURA Tue May 19, 2009 4:51 am

Dude nag ca crash ba or di mo lng ma save yung final image kse Error creating Bitmap??? Kse ako minsan ganito na eexperience ko.Narerender nmn yung whole scene tapos pag save ko na yun na Error creating Bitmap.Solution ko turn off ko vray frame buffer then render ko lng sya sa max..Not sure bro kung ito nga problem mo.. thumbsup
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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 4:51 am

kurdaps! wrote:One point:

Check your bitmap(s)...all. Be sure it is not heavy in size. Even if they are big file, make it lighter(save for web).

I hope that helps...

oo nga dude...salamat ha? Wink
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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 4:55 am

ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:Dude nag ca crash ba or di mo lng ma save yung final image kse Error creating Bitmap??? Kse ako minsan ganito na eexperience ko.Narerender nmn yung whole scene tapos pag save ko na yun na Error creating Bitmap.Solution ko turn off ko vray frame buffer then render ko lng sya sa max..Not sure bro kung ito nga problem mo.. thumbsup

both dude, I mean minsan nag ca crash sya before the end of the rendering. minsan naman pag click mo palang ng render button
"error creating bitmap na agad. both having 2500 resolution. so ginagawa ko 1800 muna, ok naman. kaso kelangan ko 2500 pataas e....napuyat ako kaka-troubleshoot kagabi! hmp! scratch Mad
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Post by kurdaps! Tue May 19, 2009 4:57 am

Madali lang yan sa katabi mo.......magtanong ka! Laughing
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Post by ARCHITHEKTHURA Tue May 19, 2009 4:59 am

Ahh well in that case tingin ko ill go for sir V suggestion. Taasan mo lng yung value ng Bitmap Pager and yeah check mo din lng yung mga file size ng maps. thumbsup
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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 4:59 am

kurdaps! wrote:Madali lang yan sa katabi mo.......magtanong ka! Laughing

hahaha, kanina pa kami usap dude! syempre unahin ko to! hehe

marami naman kaming napag usapan...(tanungin daw kita e...) Laughing
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Post by cubi_o: Tue May 19, 2009 5:00 am

ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:Dude nag ca crash ba or di mo lng ma save yung final image kse Error creating Bitmap??? Kse ako minsan ganito na eexperience ko.Narerender nmn yung whole scene tapos pag save ko na yun na Error creating Bitmap.Solution ko turn off ko vray frame buffer then render ko lng sya sa max..Not sure bro kung ito nga problem mo.. thumbsup


Dude jeff...na experience ko rin to. Ang ginawa ko din I tried to save it on a different drive or better yet save the image to the render output first... additional inputs na rin... Very Happy . thanx jeff...

@ torvicz

dude...try mo napag usapan natin if it goes well post mo rin dito...
so trouble shooting ka mamaya..hehehehee...
kc sometimes...na xperience ko rin yan...hehehe...Very Happy


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kaya pala puyat na puyat ka ngayon..hehehehe.. peace dude!!. peace man


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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 5:01 am

ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:Ahh well in that case tingin ko ill go for sir V suggestion. Taasan mo lng yung value ng Bitmap Pager and yeah check mo din lng yung mga file size ng maps. thumbsup

ganun n nga cguro dude, salamat ha?

O.T.
nabuhay ka dude ha? bihira na kita makitang mag reply e...
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Post by v_wrangler Tue May 19, 2009 5:03 am

ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:Dude nag ca crash ba or di mo lng ma save yung final image kse Error creating Bitmap??? Kse ako minsan ganito na eexperience ko.Narerender nmn yung whole scene tapos pag save ko na yun na Error creating Bitmap.Solution ko turn off ko vray frame buffer then render ko lng sya sa max..Not sure bro kung ito nga problem mo.. thumbsup

To add, if you are rendering in vray - turn off MAX vfb. It eats ram for dinner. Just use vray frame buffer.
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Post by cubi_o: Tue May 19, 2009 5:45 am

v_wrangler wrote:
ARCHITHEKTHURA wrote:Dude nag ca crash ba or di mo lng ma save yung final image kse Error creating Bitmap??? Kse ako minsan ganito na eexperience ko.Narerender nmn yung whole scene tapos pag save ko na yun na Error creating Bitmap.Solution ko turn off ko vray frame buffer then render ko lng sya sa max..Not sure bro kung ito nga problem mo.. thumbsup

To add, if you are rendering in vray - turn off MAX vfb. It eats ram for dinner. Just use vray frame buffer.


thanx sir vertex for the addt'l info. 2thumbsup
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Post by 3DZONE Tue May 19, 2009 6:45 am

nangyayari din sa akin yan sir torvikz, gawa ko nag-i-start ako sa 3200 res pag ayaw pa rin pababa ng pababa till i reach the right resolution...but sometimes 2200 ok pa....sometimes malalaki masyado ang mga file size ng texture. Very Happy
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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 6:47 am

3DZONE wrote:nangyayari din sa akin yan sir torvikz, gawa ko nag-i-start ako sa 3200 res pag ayaw pa rin pababa ng pababa till i reach the right resolution...but sometimes 2200 ok pa....sometimes malalaki masyado ang mga file size ng texture. Very Happy

ganun ba dude?

madalas nga sa texture talaga e....salamat sa reply ha?
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Post by mokong Tue May 19, 2009 10:00 pm

try mo to bro... hope it helps...Very Happy

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Post by torvicz Tue May 19, 2009 11:28 pm

mokong wrote:try mo to bro... hope it helps...Very Happy

http://www.cgpinoy.org/vray-for-3d-studio-max-tutorials-f35/optimizing-memory-usage-in-rendering-t4090.htm

naku dude! malaking tulong yung binigay mong info! maraming salamat talaga... thumbsup
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Post by render master Wed May 20, 2009 12:32 am

try also bitmap proxy
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Post by v_wrangler Wed May 20, 2009 12:38 am

What the proxy does is substitute high-res to lowres for ease of display. But it is not something you'd use when you are going FINAL. Defeats the purpose. I like that. I'm going to make that my slogan.
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Post by render master Wed May 20, 2009 3:25 am

v_wrangler wrote:What the proxy does is substitute high-res to lowres for ease of display. But it is not something you'd use when you are going FINAL. Defeats the purpose. I like that. I'm going to make that my slogan.

yahh you are right, hope autodesk is not mistaken with these
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to torvicz
in rendering a high res image, im using a render script plugins, it subdivides the image into parts then automatically combined them when the last part was rendered. in this case the cpu is not obliged to read the whole resolution of the scene you are rendering.

here is the link RENDER SCRIPTS


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Post by v_wrangler Wed May 20, 2009 3:35 am

They aren't mistaken. And I am not mistaken either.

The mistake lies in how you understood (or otherwise) what the discussion was about. If you read from the top you'll understand.

Ang problema ay ang kakulangan ng memory when rendering - so if you'll proxy it with lowres (kasi nga ano pa ba ang kasunod ng hires pa-taas? ) eh di lalo mo lang binawasan ang quality ng rendering. Yun ang point ng sagot ko sa suggestion mo.

Of course pwede mong gamitin for rendering ang proxy - but in this particular problem - all you have is a lower resolution proxy which defeats the purpose.

Na gets mo na kaya?
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Post by render master Wed May 20, 2009 3:53 am

v_wrangler wrote:They aren't mistaken. And I am not mistaken either.

The mistake lies in how you understood (or otherwise) what the discussion was about. If you read from the top you'll understand.

Ang problema ay ang kakulangan ng memory when rendering - so if you'll proxy it with lowres (kasi nga ano pa ba ang kasunod ng hires pa-taas? ) eh di lalo mo lang binawasan ang quality ng rendering. Yun ang point ng sagot ko sa suggestion mo.

Of course pwede mong gamitin for rendering ang proxy - but in this particular problem - all you have is a lower resolution proxy which defeats the purpose.

Na gets mo na kaya?

Hindi kase ayaw ko i-gets.

The thread stated Rendering a high res image with some bitmap error case, so meaning di na kaya ihandle ng cpu ang mga bitmap na ginamit nya, so using a bitmap proxy may lowering the image resolution of the bitmap he uses. Puede naman i-lower ang bitmap proxy na di gaanong maapektuhan ang rendered image. Malay natin, iyong isang bitmap na ginamit nya is sobrang high res, sa scene naman ang liit naman pala ng object na pinaglagyan ng bitmap na iyon. So its a case to case basis pa rin. So i thinks with this scenario, di mo sasabihing affected iyong high res image nya,

To torvicz..
Inspect and review mo lang ang lahat ng bitmap na ginamit mo, baka iyong iba masyadong malaki ang resolution then ang liit lang naman pala ng object na pinaglagyan. hope it helps.
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