Architectural Thesis (II)

mammoo_03 wrote:i suggest to lessen the purpose of training rooms rather, some eco tourism concept, para may ROI ang facility mo. at the end of the day, your facility should sustain operation cost, etc...godbless and focus lang.

xtianatix wrote:look at this sir. this is an entry of my prof and classmates in UP for the FuturArc 2011 competition. You can explore more on this.
http://www.futurarc.com/prize_winners/2011_professional/FAP_Prof_Winner/2nd.cfm

xtianatix wrote:look at this sir. this is an entry of my prof and classmates in UP for the FuturArc 2011 competition. You can explore more on this.
http://www.futurarc.com/prize_winners/2011_professional/FAP_Prof_Winner/2nd.cfm

pipicosis wrote:

mammoo_03 wrote:i suggest to lessen the purpose of training rooms rather, some eco tourism concept, para may ROI ang facility mo. at the end of the day, your facility should sustain operation cost, etc...godbless and focus lang.

salamat po sir, sa site naman po ay may 2 options ako, isang strategically located at the boarder of metro manila, (an urbanizing town) at isa deep inside rizal province where wide agricultural land lies, both with fairly large no. of farmers living...and i guess kung magkakaroon po ako ng agri-tourism ay doon po malo-locate sa option no 2, which is somehow far from national roads. pero malaking bagay nga po itong tourism kung ii-include ko po, i'll figure something out po about dito...salamat po sir

pipicosis wrote:

xtianatix wrote:look at this sir. this is an entry of my prof and classmates in UP for the FuturArc 2011 competition. You can explore more on this.
http://www.futurarc.com/prize_winners/2011_professional/FAP_Prof_Winner/2nd.cfm

this inspires me a lot po...ideas of pinoy designers are really excellent...sana talaga maging competitive mga future architects sa mga magz like this or internationally...

xtianatix wrote:

pipicosis wrote:

xtianatix wrote:look at this sir. this is an entry of my prof and classmates in UP for the FuturArc 2011 competition. You can explore more on this.
http://www.futurarc.com/prize_winners/2011_professional/FAP_Prof_Winner/2nd.cfm

this inspires me a lot po...ideas of pinoy designers are really excellent...sana talaga maging competitive mga future architects sa mga magz like this or internationally...

madami ka pa makukuhang ideas sa FUTURARC. search ka lang bro.
I just want to remind you that your THESIS is NOT the "building type" it is "the proposition of advancement" for a certain building type. kahit ano pa yun.

And in the end, your design must prove your research.

jamesalbert wrote:

pipicosis wrote:

mammoo_03 wrote:i suggest to lessen the purpose of training rooms rather, some eco tourism concept, para may ROI ang facility mo. at the end of the day, your facility should sustain operation cost, etc...godbless and focus lang.

salamat po sir, sa site naman po ay may 2 options ako, isang strategically located at the boarder of metro manila, (an urbanizing town) at isa deep inside rizal province where wide agricultural land lies, both with fairly large no. of farmers living...and i guess kung magkakaroon po ako ng agri-tourism ay doon po malo-locate sa option no 2, which is somehow far from national roads. pero malaking bagay nga po itong tourism kung ii-include ko po, i'll figure something out po about dito...salamat po sir

Sir if mag-agritourism ka may guidelines po yan sa d.o.t hehehe thesis ko kasi ay about diyan pero di ko naituloy dahil kulang sa pera hope sa 2nd sem makabalik ako. Ayan lang ang mga guidelines ng agritourism na natatandaan ko :

* 30 minutes time travel from a national road
* 25 km raduis from major tourist attractions
* close to main gateways (airport and seaports)
* good basic services (roads, communications (internet, telephone lines, electricity), water (NAWASA or Manila water)

Ayan lang naalala ko sana matapos mo yan hehehe

pipicosis wrote:

jamesalbert wrote:

pipicosis wrote:

mammoo_03 wrote:i suggest to lessen the purpose of training rooms rather, some eco tourism concept, para may ROI ang facility mo. at the end of the day, your facility should sustain operation cost, etc...godbless and focus lang.

salamat po sir, sa site naman po ay may 2 options ako, isang strategically located at the boarder of metro manila, (an urbanizing town) at isa deep inside rizal province where wide agricultural land lies, both with fairly large no. of farmers living...and i guess kung magkakaroon po ako ng agri-tourism ay doon po malo-locate sa option no 2, which is somehow far from national roads. pero malaking bagay nga po itong tourism kung ii-include ko po, i'll figure something out po about dito...salamat po sir

Sir if mag-agritourism ka may guidelines po yan sa d.o.t hehehe thesis ko kasi ay about diyan pero di ko naituloy dahil kulang sa pera hope sa 2nd sem makabalik ako. Ayan lang ang mga guidelines ng agritourism na natatandaan ko :

* 30 minutes time travel from a national road
* 25 km raduis from major tourist attractions
* close to main gateways (airport and seaports)
* good basic services (roads, communications (internet, telephone lines, electricity), water (NAWASA or Manila water)

Ayan lang naalala ko sana matapos mo yan hehehe

ayun sir, salamat po. pasok naman po lahat dyan po sa criteria na yan iyong dalawang site ko po, although about sa airport, proposal palang po ang airport na malapit sa site ko po, noong galing po ako ng DOT kasi about Rizal tourist development po iyong info na kinuha ko, pero malapit lang naman po sa school kaya babalik po ulit ako...BTW hope you can get back po...Godbless po satin thanks a lot po!

silvercrown wrote:Kindly post a layout of your proposal, title, concept, the scope, objective, etc. list it down and we'll deal with the solution later...
So far you're ideas/ proposal are as vague as nothing... you've been jumping all around and i think it's unfair for the people who's trying to help when there's nothing's definite... i understand that your on the early stage, but you should have the VISION already... if you don't have that, then we're just blindingly walking on a path of "come what may?"...

pipicosis wrote:Rizal province face rampant and indiscriminate land reclassification and conversion to residential and commercial land uses which greatly reduce the total agricultural area. primary reason is in-migration from other provinces for employment and business opportunities.

pipicosis wrote: as of 2007, Rizal has 954 subdivisions and still exhibiting fast growth resulting in conversion of agricultural land

Rizal development aims to provide adequate services for the people to develop an integrated urban and rural settlement with a balance growth.

development is recommended to balance development among housing, commerce, agriculture and tourism, ADDITIONAL POPULATION SHOULD BE TRANSLATED TO MORE JOB OPPORTUNITIES IN AGRICULTURE, TRADING, REAL ESTATE AND OTHER SERVICES.

increasing the density of buildings per land surface area or increasing the occupancy rate of existing multi-storey structures is a must.

pipicosis wrote: PROPOSAL:
housing, tenement (a low cost substandard multi-family dwelling)
-as a solution for rapid growing demand for housing.

pipicosis wrote:+
greenhouse, pocket farms (vertical layout)
-to help achieve agricultural development (encouraging tenants) to support the province's food requirements complementing the future expected growth of population.

pipicosis wrote:+
agricultural training rooms and workshops
-handled by ATI (agricultural training institute) for region-IV A, (a TESDA for agriculture) is currently needing facilities to hold their free events about agricultural technology.

somehow this my primary draft about the problem. C&C pls

silvercrown wrote:
when you describe the land reclassification and conversion to residential and commercial land use as "indiscriminate", do you want to imply the negative effects of migration?
It's ironic if you show dismay since your proposal is tenement housing. It would not help the agriculture sector at all... if you think it does, how?

silvercrown wrote:
Migration = More Job opportunities, but not in agriculture... most of these migrants from the province don't want to work in farms anymore, these people works on the IT sector (call centers), industrial businesses, factories, retail, etc... Hence the demand of more low cost housing...

silvercrown wrote:
You are on the right track if you go with your research described above, you mentioned "substandard" what do you mean?
substandard construction?
substandard structure (smaller living areas)?
The occupants of these low cost housing will never be farm workers, instead they are the ordinary local people, like carpenters, drivers, security guards, those who are working in factories, malls, call centers, processing plants, and as you said migrants from the province who are in the city to make a living...

silvercrown wrote:
This is a good idea, this is also the concept of permaculture, but in a very small scale...

BUT the statement "support the province food requirements" is over rated, "support" is a huge word to hurdle... we know that it won't!... It won't even support the food requirement of the tenants themsleves... but it would help them just a little bit... Ex: they plant kalabasa on these pocket farms, they wont be harvesting kalabasa everyday? they wont get anything until it's time to harvest. They may use the produce themselves or sell it for a profit... Thats the only time they will get something, but not much... but it would help kahit papano...

silvercrown wrote:
To me this is an odd addition... i don't know how you are going to relate the 2, simply because mass housing and large scale agriculture doesn't go together... read your very 1st paragraph above and that's what it say... that's what "indiscriminate" means in that statement, it doesn't compliment each other...
I would say forget about agriculture all the way and do your tenement housing and incorporate permaculture and it would be enough to get your hands full... and i think it will be a good thesis...

bokkins wrote:Good job! Mukhang may pinapatunguhan itong gawa mo bro.

Suggestions ko pa:
1. Wag naman substandard! Pwede naman na low cost standard housing, as designers and members of this society, we can't go beyond substandard.
2. Classify mo ang mga pwedeng itanim sa elevated farms, dapat worth it in terms of value and return of invesments. Siguro bawal muna ang mga kamote or kangkong. Dapat yung may profit para sa maintenance at progress.
3. Maganda din na may levels or heirarchy ang development mo. Yung kailangan ng vertical kasi densely populated, yung midrise para sa medyo outskirts at yung sprawling sa medyo malayo ng konti. Sa sprawling, dito pa din ang mga ricefields. Everything na nangangailangan ng vast space.
Good luck!

Pero yung project mo siguro, pwede na magfocus kung san yung dense at kailangan ng magandang detalye.

julcab wrote:brief: sa ngayun kulang tayo sa facilities for tech agri research para maging globally competitive tayo.In reality puro tayo import. its a major thing. napuntahan ko mindanao to luzon. they all have the same problem. zamboanga (rubber) to ilocos (bawang rice etc) lack research facilities. on those journey nadiscover ko yung type of rubber tree(well adaptive siya sa kahit anong uri ng lupa at almost zero maintenance with 3-5 yrs maturity with good value) with the expense of foul smell at tinanim ko sa ilocos also nagtanim din kami ng organic na tanim(mataas ang value for robinsons and 5sisters mall ilocos) na hopefully puwede for export.

-nagseminar din kami dati sa agriculture. madaming paraan tol. example ( manga+kalamansi+saging combo)

-pag value go for organic(demand specially abroad). sustain income of the community(kabarangay)

-sustainability less or almost zero maintence go for rubber(3-5 years maturity and lifespan 15-20yrs).

based on experience.

pipicosis wrote:sir, i've formulated these set of ideas, while nasa byahe.
i think give up ko na nga iyong agriculture,
instead:

tenement for the upper levels, (3-6)
separate or connected by bridge po iyong vertical garden building

for the 2nd floor,
workshop room or rooms for seminar are provided for small seminars about weaving, stitching, handicrafts, etc. ( iyong ginagawa ng mga preso para mag karon ng income) i think, sakop din po ito ng TESDA courses.

ground floor, small stalls or market place, to be rented also by tenants, or mas preferred kung management nitong tenement ang mag handle nitong market? kung individual rentals po ng stalls, maaari kasi pong mag conflict or competition in terms of selling their goods, leading to lowering their prices, ending with very low income. on the other hand, kung management po ang may handle, mas mame-maintain po ang prices at ordinance po sa market.

pasensya na po, nagreport po kc ng brownout, kaya medyo nag mamadali po ako sa post...details po nalang sa susunod.

silvercrown wrote:You may pursue your midrise housing project (kase parang gustong-gusto mo talaga etong project), but it should be a private development, target mo yung working class housing market, kase marami sila, at maka-afford silang bumili ng units at pambayad ng maintenance...
Pwede mong incorporate yung vertical garden concept mo (i won't call it argriculture, it's too small of a scale...though it still falls under agriculture, lets call it a garden instead) then you can develop the roof tops into a sky garden, recreation, park, if you have a complex of these structures you can connect the rooftops with sky bridges, people can do their daily jogging, wallking sa roof tops complete with gazebos, plants, flowers and small trees... widen your scope, don't limit your creativity... (sana these features di makadagdag ng malaki sa cost ng project)
In thesis like this, you only have to prove to your jury the positive impact of the project to the environment and the people around it (w/c i think everything is positive) against of course the supposed cost of the project (is it practical? affordable? possible?)...

silvercrown wrote:It's time to consolidate your concept & ideas...
Layout the requirements of your project.
And get ready to formulate the best solution for you project.
Goodluck!