Canon EOS 7D

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By aanzures

.. but i rock the most!!!

wrangler .. sa flickr po. pero sobrang busy lately.. at nangangarap ako ng 35mm e.. and i need to get an eye-chek-up again.. (and daming alibi di na lang sabihin TINATAMAD AKO LATELY EH)

mushroom ... ARRGGGHH!!!!

ganda talaga 7d.. lalo na video nya.. hehe..canon rocks!!

hello po mga bossing. sorry medyo late na ako sa topic. eto po una una ko vid with eos 7d. hingi lang ako feedback. sa abu dhabi to ...

http://vimeo.com/9102729

damn it the canon 7d rocks!

Damn - panasonic is releasing the successor to the GH1 ---


GH2 at 50fps/60fps fullhd.... me likey!

sorry for focusing on the gadget mungkey, ur shots are good and i think uve got a keen eye as a photographer.. your compositions are great and it reflects your talent. it's just that the video capability of the 7d is far far better than the D90..

OT:

mungkey

im interested in your color grading techniques - the one in your sample video didn't seem amateur to me. it was very nicely done. i also like the camera dollys - were these all done using your manfrotto? also - how were u able to use the nikon AF 1.8 in the canon eos? (cos if it is possible to use nikkor lenses on the 7d - it may not be a bad investment after all) unless there is an adapter or something? sorry daming questions..

care to share your process in ae? (some screenshots and blending etc would be very helpful..)

thanks man!

Ok lang bro and salamat naman at nagustuhan mo ang vid. I have a bit of experience sa photoshop, so after effects was not very hard. The same principles apply to almost everything, esp. color grading. Curves, levels, hue, tint, sharpening etc. All that is done to post-process the still photo is almost the same with the video. The dolly shots were done using a compact dolly mounted on the manfrotto tripod. The nikkor lens was mounted to a Canon EOS body using an adapter. My girlfriend bought the adapter sa quiapo when she went to PH for vacation, its not very expensive. Its just a simple metal - very much like a basic coupler. Pero with the adapter ull have to do with manual focus kse walang silbe ang AF. And if the lens is a G lens, you wont be able to control the aperture. There is a G lens adapter on the internet - search mo lang sa google Nikon G to EOS Adapter, but its more expensive. I'm using an old f/1.8 AF-D lens which has an aperture ring on the lens unit itself. So its good para ma control ko ang aperture by hand. And I must say the quality of nikkors on canon is really very good.


For the color grading and image or video quality, I think not much difference sa quality ng footage sa D90, D300s, 7D, 550D, 5D MK2, i think sa resolution lang cguro. I would love to get a full frame 6MP Nikon Expeed and shoots 1080p or 2k video. That would increase Dynamic Range and per pixel sensitivity - cleaner shots in low-light. That is the reason why all the nikon's perform much better than Canon's in low-light - because of bigger pixels in each photosite on the sensor itself - lower MegaPixels on the sensor makes more space for each pixel, bigger pixel gather more light and perform a lot better than smaller pixels. Plus originally the nikon sensor (at least for APS-C has only 1.5x crop factor versus the 1.6x crop factor for canon) that adds more space. Although canon now creates gapless microlenses, I dont think that will still be enough to beat a Fullframe Nikon beast like the D3s which has a very large pixel pitch. In low-light, the Nikon's will really have an edge, at least sa High ISO Settings lang. If nikon can only make 1080p with variable frame rates like canon, then nikon would be the first choice for video dslr. But canon has the edge on video because they have been manufacturing high-end video cameras for ages.

To get good color grading flexibility, its much better to adjust the in-camera image style (Canon or Nikon) to be as flat as possible to increase dynamic range while the shot still in the camera. Later on, sa computer, the footage will give more flexibility sa editing/color grading stage. It's like delayed gratification. The in-camera footage may not look that good and vibrant and colorful or high contrast, pero overall fidelity sa tone and dynamic range is kept in there. The in-camera settings for every manufactrer is like a "Curves" adjustment layer that is run by the camera on each picture that we take. This is activated once we move the settings of the Canon Picture Style options or nikon Image options(Standard, Vivid, More Vivid, etc) and each camera also has a default curve already. The trick when taking the raw footage is to not let the camera do the curves adjustment to get better and higher quality sa shots. And then sa color-grading stage, we will have more flexibility. Less blown-out whites and clipped blacks.

For my video I used a custom Picture style sa 7D, I edited a picture style sa Canon Picture Style software and uploaded it back into the camera. It's not the best one pero what I did - I lowered the contrast and the other sliders.

Here is one video that I saw, but too bad only after I made my video. I tested the superFlat picture style just yesterday, and I was amazed by the results. So I downloaded it from the website and now its on the my 7D custom picture style. I uploaded it yesterday.

http://vimeo.com/groups/good/videos/7256322

As for my color grading curve, eto po yung curve sir, something like this.
Pero tweak ko lang on each shot depende sa overall tone and sa luminance ng footage.

thanks mungkey for the info, very insightful. thanks for sharing the settings. this post effect is very prevalent in most commercials i see nowadays, sort of gives that retro / polaroid look.

i suppose in terms of video canon really has the edge at this point, i wont recommend the d90 for it's video output, unlike the 7d where the sharpness and clarity is definitely there. i wonder if this is enough to replace the traditional camcorders? what's your take on this?

if nikon doesnt come up with a decent counterpart to the 7d it would be good to invest in a canon - it was also good to know that an adapter exists for nikkor lenses in canon bodies. without the af should be fine, i got used to using the same 50mm f1.8 in a d40 (it doesnt autofocus on that body).

tfs the video on increasing the dr of the 7d - will see if i can pick up some tricks there.

Thanks bro. Glad it was able to help. I would say that for the image quality, low light performance, and the level of control the Depth of Field / Bokeh, video on these new generation dSLR cameras is already very good and enough to even replace large and heavy video camcorders. The size of the sensor of the 7D is a lot larger than even heavy professional video camcorders. That's the reason why camcorders can't get that very shallow depth of field. Most people would rig their camcorders with a 35mm adapter (those ones with motorized spinning ground glass elements) and mount lenses like Nikon 50mm f/1.8, Canon 50 f/1.2 or Zeiss lenses to achieve the cinematic DoF control. Almost the size of the sensor of the Red One. And the Fullframe sensor of the 5D Mark II is even larger than the sensor of the Red One, which will enable the 5D MK2 greater control over shallow depth of field which is a must when it comes to getting the "film look" or that cinematic "focus pull" shots and stuff like that. Also in low-light, larger sensor means better performance, low-noise even on high ISO settings, even with no artificial lighting, just plain ambient. Plus, the choice or 35mm lenses is a very very good thing.

http://tom11.com/blog/?p=8

And most camera bodies in the dslr range is very well built. That is also a very good thing.

http://canonfieldreviews.com/7d-1-weather-sealing/

For sure the dSLR is very superior in those aspects. But the greatest weakness of the dslr is its form factor and its sound / audio system. It's very hard to stabilize the dslr because of its form. you cant have smooth movements if you just hold it with your hand and you cant even carry it on your shoulder and balance it. Center of gravity is a bit off and you have to do something else to balance it. The sound controls (so far) are all AGC - automatic gain control. Its very bad, its like a flickering auto white balance but this time, its sound. If sound levels change, the in camera AGC will adjust accordingly, but it doesnt do a good job. So usually, its a mess. Even with external microphone, the dslr cant get clean sound, its still subject to the AGC in camera. There are solutions to this but, takes a lot of effort. It can be done, but not as easy as those dedicated camcorders with systems built for the sole purpose of making video with good audio. Until they can get the audio fixed properly, the dslr cameras will just be for "money shots" and will not replace the camcorders entirely but rather maybe, complement them in a fleet of cameras or so.

thanks mungkey. on hindsight until a new DSLR matches the output of your camera, the 7d is definitely great in the video area.

gotta get me that manfrotto dolly, nikon adapter, and, budget permissible, a 7d too.. hehe!

no problem bro.

anu kaya i swap ko yung nikond90 ko nito.

yun matutuloy na ang swap. i just sold my d90 today. I am planning to buy this 7d this week.

If I were you nomer, I'd get the 550D instead or its newest cousin with the flip screen...

vertex,

yeah bro I considered the three 7D, 550d and 60D. The 550D or X4kiss is the cheapest half price and it's very light too. I am also thinking of 600D which will be launched this February. Most of my students have 550D and I also like the quality.

I sat with my wife on this and we believe that there is something in 5D and 7D why they are pricey. I seem to follow her in her advocacy, buy the expensive one and dont buy no more. hehehehe. rather than the cheaper and you swap again later. I have to admit that this is a north vietnam advocacy. And since we have consensus, i might go with it. anyway it's her money too . I sold my Nikon D90 yesterday including a tamron lens 28-200 for 800USd. so now we just add a bit .

Nevertheless, after your suggestion , i need to look this thing again . thanks bro.

When I parted with my Nikon D40 and decided for a replacement - I also had a hard time deciding between a 7D and the 550D. Since I feel silly shelling out the extra dough for the 7D and the video part is all I care for, I bought the 550D and bought a 50mm from the savings.

Munkey mentioned about the pictures styles and I can share mine for video and stills when you finally get a canon!

binigyan mo ako ng something to think again loverboy.

so far (vnam price).. canon 7D body.. 1,320.00
canon 550d body........................... 630.00

http://www.digitalrev.com/en/canon-eos-550d-vs-dot-7d-c-which-one-is-right-for-you-comparison.html

to confuse you even more!

confuse nga.

now sumali pa ang 60D
Canon EOS 550D, EOS 60D and EOS 7D Specifications

Features	Canon EOS 550D	Canon EOS 60D	Canon EOS 7D
Sensor Type	APS-C CMOS sensor	APS-C CMOS sensor	APS-C CMOS sensor
Sensor Size	22.3 x 14.9mm	22.3 x 14.9mm	22.3 x 14.9mm
Sensor Resolution	18.0 megapixels	18.0 megapixels	18.0 megapixels
LCD	3-inch 3:2 (1040k dots) Clear View LCD	3-inch 3:2 (1040k dots) Clear View LCD	3-inch (920k dots) Clear View II LCD
Tilt LCD	No	Yes	No
Live View	Yes	Yes	Yes
Viewfinder Type	Pentamirror	Pentaprism	Pentaprism
Viewfinder Coverage	Approx. 95%	Approx. 96%	Approx. 100%
Viewfinder Magnification	Approx. 0.87x	Approx. 0.95x	Approx. 1.0x
Focusing Screen	Fixed	Interchangeable (3 types, optional)	Fixed (Transmissive LCD screen)
HD Movie	1920x1080 (30, 25, 24fps), 1280x720 (60, 50fps)	1920x1080 (30, 25, 24fps), 1280x720 (60, 50fps)	1920x1080 (30, 25, 24fps), 1280x720 (60, 50fps)
Max. Continuous Burst Speed	3.7fps (34JPEG / 6RAW)	5.3fps (58JPEG / 16RAW)	8fps (126JPEG / 15RAW)
Metering System	TTL full aperture metering with 63 zone Dual Layer SPC	TTL full aperture metering with 63 zone Dual Layer SPC	TTL full aperture metering with 63 zone Dual Layer SPC
AF System	9-point cross type AF System	9-point cross type AF System	19-point cross type AF System
Flash Modes	Auto, Manual Flash On/Off	Auto, Manual Flash On/Off, Integrated Speedlite Transmitter	Auto, Manual Flash On/Off, Multi Flash, Integrated Speedlite Transmitter
Built-in Image Stabilisation	No	No	No
Image Sensitivity (ISO)	AUTO(100-6400), 100-6400 (Expandable to 12800)	AUTO(100-3200), 100-6400 (Expandable to 12800)	AUTO(100-3200), 100-6400 (Expandable to 12800)
Shutter Speed Range	30-1/4000 sec (1/2 or 1/3 stop increments), Bulb	30-1/8000 sec (1/2 or 1/3 stop increments), Bulb	30-1/8000 sec (1/2 or 1/3 stop increments), Bulb
Built-in Flash	Yes	Yes	Yes
Body Material	Stainless Steel and polycarbonate resin with glass fiber	Aluminium and polycarbonate resin with glass fibre	Magnesium Alloy body covers
Weight (Body Only)	Approx. 530g	Approx. 755g	Approx. 820g
Dimensions (W x H x D)	128.8 x 97.3 x 62 mm	144.5 x 105.8 x 78.6mm	148.2 x 110.7 x 73.5mm

Nakakainis. undecide tuloy. pero having said that. if i will go with 550d the i can even buy this Canon Lens EF 24-70mm F2.8L USM. mas mura pa.

Option A... Canon 7D (body)........................1,320.00
Canon Lens 50mm F1.8 ................ 90.00
Canon Lens 18-200mm F3.5-5.3.... 490.00
total .................. 1,900.00

Option B..... Canon 550D (body)...................... 630.00
Canon Lens EF 24-70mm F2.8L USM.. 1,170.00
total ......... 1,800.00

or i might go with 60D based on the above comparison.
Canon D60 price here is 900USD + this Canon Lens EF 24-70mm F2.8L USM.

The only convincing factor for me with the 60D is the flippable screen. Its quite a convenience if you're like me shooting video from extreme angles!

Other than that, the rest is eye candy.. well just for yours truly.

v_wrangler wrote:The only convincing factor for me with the 60D is the flippable screen. Its quite a convenience if you're like me shooting video from extreme angles!
Other than that, the rest is eye candy.. well just for yours truly.

and some more according to the comparison.

1. Better layout of controls with a top LCD which many DSLR users find indispensable
   
2. A faster body with improved continuous burst shooting and large range of shutter speed
   
3. Tilt-able LCD for those who need to shoot at awkward angles
   
4. Integrated Speedlite Transmitter for better off camera lighting control
   
5. A more rugged weatherproof body
   

anyway i think you have change my mind not to buy 7D .. so maybe hello EOS 60D. i will just get that excellent all around lens which is excellent for low lighting situation.

if i shoot mostly still life, i'd pick 550D
if i shoot mostly videos, i'd go for 60D due to the tiltable screen
if i often shoot portraits, sports, moving subjects, the 8fps of 7D will be beneficial

if this is my 2nd dlsr buy, i'd go full frame (5dMkII)

why canon? coz canon's video capabilities are years ahead of nikon

but i don't shoot videos, that's why nikon is just nice for me

just giving some insights bro, hope i shed some light aside from the good points already mentioned.

Ang mahal nga ito AED 7,999 tmingin ako kgabi mapapawow ka talaga.