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Post by oRangE.n.GreeN Sat Feb 14, 2009 10:54 pm

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a FORUM for those who wants to receive the most cruel, unsympathetic & unforgiving but equally valuable comments. in other words, for those who wants to improve their works & learn from the masters.

whut'yathink?




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Post by bokkins Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:10 pm

since dalawa na ang ngsuggest, we'll give it a try, but im warning you guys, hindi ito ganun kaganda... walang pikonan...
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Post by alwin Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:12 pm

ok rin ito katulad namin na green horn sa rendering dapat dito i post for
major comments! I agree this forum ! kaya lang kawawa yung mga pikon hehe!
hintayin lang natin yung mga mods at management !!!!
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Post by AUSTRIA Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:45 pm

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:.




a FORUM for those who wants to receive the most cruel, unsympathetic & unforgiving but equally valuable comments. in other words, for those who wants to improve their works & learn from the masters.

whut'yathink?.

Nice idea din to bro!!! Pero may disadvantages din to s tingin ko...Ako ay naniniwala n ang mga pangit ay gumaganda pag hinalo m s magaganda.Bka may magtaasan din ng kilay bro...may point is bka mag away lng ang mga member....Isa pa po
sino sino b ang master dto d b tyo nmn lhat, eventhough di tyo pantay pantay ng galing at ibat ibang kakayahan pagdating s Rendering and Design...Kc ako bro mula pa nung nag aaral ako plagi ako natutoto s mgagaling n gawa kc nai inspired ako. Hanggang s dumating s point n gumaganda n rin pla ang gawa k ...Pero may point k din bro pero sna wag lng magkulang ang admin s pag alala n hinay hinay lng s pag comments...
Ito ay akin lmang punto n sna makatulong din kung matutupad man ang furum n ito...Di po ako tumututol subalit nagpapaalala lamang..mraming slamat po.


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Post by bokkins Sat Feb 14, 2009 11:46 pm

ok na mga bro. its called "Intesive Critic Unit" = ICU
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Post by xboy360 Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:31 am

Nakakacurious itong idea na 'to ah...I'd to see how this'll work out.
Nagaabang na ako na may magpost sa ICU. (nice name btw sir bokkins...ICU, ahahaha tongue)
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Post by jenaro Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:34 am

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Post by render master Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:45 am

hehehhe ok eto. ako kaya magpost na una heehehehehe
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Post by Jay2x Sun Feb 15, 2009 2:40 am

render master wrote:hehehhe ok eto. ako kaya magpost na una heehehehehe

tama sir hehe .curious kc ako sa name mo e. tiyak pinakamagaling n yan sa lahat thumbsup
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Post by dpyxl Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:25 am

what this thread for, then kalalabasan soft porn lang pala yung archi thread... tama po ba?

so this is the best place to post if you want to receive non-bias, in-your-face-cc which good for newbies and hardcore critics..while the old show-me-your-archiviz will be *hugs-and-kisses thread* natin?

redundant imo, if only the archiviz serves what it meant to be.. this is one good thread lookin' forward to grow..

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Post by alwin Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:29 am

Jay2x wrote:
render master wrote:hehehhe ok eto. ako kaya magpost na una heehehehehe

tama sir hehe .curious kc ako sa name mo e. tiyak pinakamagaling n yan sa lahat thumbsup

bro!
magaling talaga yan si idol ronel pabico kita ko lahat mga post niya nkakainspire bro, halos lahat ng mga mods @ admin dito
puro may lahing magagaling!
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Post by bokkins Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:49 am

I would say that this could also be something like, tell me more of what I can do to make this look really good. Sometimes what we think is ok isn't really ok at all. lalo na pag mapride tayo. Sometime you have to let down your defenses para mapenetrate talaga ang weakness mo. Once na masalang ka sa thread na to, I think you will find more of your inner self.

On the other hand, the archi gallery would be something like "I just wanted to share this work I did for..." CNC's welcome but im doing it on my next render(which is usually the case.) but not all the time.

Maybe, once this thread is working, masasanay na tayong magcomment ng intensive critic type. then saka nalang natin imerge.

This is something like between WIP and 3d Gallery. Actually, ayaw ko na sana ng mga ganito kasi nawala na ung essence ng "simplified forum type." Sana lang talaga wag mabakante katulad ng MAYA discussion. wala pa din laman hanggang ngayon. haha. Very Happy
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Post by dpyxl Sun Feb 15, 2009 7:26 am

I would say that this could also be something like, tell me more of what I can do to make this look really good. Sometimes what we think is ok isn't really ok at all. lalo na pag mapride tayo. Sometime you have to let down your defenses para mapenetrate talaga ang weakness mo. Once na masalang ka sa thread na to, I think you will find more of your inner self.

dapat ganito talaga approach sa cc.. nice one bossing, sana tuloy tuloy na.

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Post by celes Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:05 am

nice idea neil! i totally am eager to see how this turns out.

i just hope there are some pointers na most members would agree when going into this section -

1. for the topic starters

- be prepared to get all sorts of criticisms. pag mejo balat sibuyas, ma-pride, better than you attitude, pikon, kulang sa vitamin B, di na breastfeed nung baby pa, in other words kung marami kayong hangups, don't attempt to jump into the fire - you'll just get burned.. away lang ang ending niyan. also i agree with austria - lahat naman tayo pareho ng levels dito, which means, lahat me karapatan mag puna or magbigay ng opinion. whether the critics are better or not doesnt matter - as long as valid ang pointers.

2. to the critics

- sana, bawal dito ang mga sobrang pintasero at kontra just for the sake of it. always comment on the output, straight to the point. kung pwede iwasan ang mga sarcastic na remarks. and also, since critic unit nga to, pwede bang i filter out ang mga statements like "idol", "lufet", "buttrock"? sa kabilang section na lang yan please.

if you ask me it's high time na merong ganito, para masanay lahat sa criticisms. the other international forums are less kinder, and yet they produce really good results kasi no holds barred ang comments. i personally believe na perfect example dito is a diamond.. bago yan maging polished, dumadaan yan sa extreme heat and friction. same thing applies to developing a skill. kelangan dumaan sa trials bago talaga ma perfect ang talent. it is not enough that you have the inspiration passion conviction at kung anu ano pang ions.

looking forward to the threads.. Very Happy
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Post by m | 9 z Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:14 pm

this is very scary, (for us newbies) but really would be very helpful..ive seen the hardcore crits of sir vertex, mapapanting talaga tenga mo pero in the process maiisip mo it's very constructive. anyway, this could be a great pool of new ideas everybody could learn kahit na hindi ka magpost ng gawa mo, although it would be great if the unit could have your work bombarded with crits too.

i agree with sir mushroom on this too:

2. to the critics

- sana, bawal dito ang mga sobrang pintasero at kontra just for the sake of it. always comment on the output, straight to the point. kung pwede iwasan ang mga sarcastic na remarks. and also, since critic unit nga to, pwede bang i filter out ang mga statements like "idol", "lufet", "buttrock"? sa kabilang section na lang yan please.
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Post by Butz_Arki Sun Feb 15, 2009 6:34 pm

sana magwork to tol..kasi hndi nmn lahat ay ok sa ganun,,ang iba ay pikon..baka nga magaway-away lang!! Sana nmn hndi..
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Post by xboy360 Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:45 pm

IMO ok lang sakin mapikon para maging "thick-skinned" ka pagdating sa critiques at hindi mo na itatake personally yung mga sinasabi nila. Para masanay na rin tayo, sa akin kasi parang medyo 'malalambot' pa tayo dito at mahirap mag improve kung puro bola lang diba. Very Happy

Warning na lang talaga sa mga magpopost sa ICU.... Masasaktan talaga kayo doon pero ang results are worth it talaga at sure na matututo kayo! Kilangan maghirap/masaktan bago gumaling! hehe XD
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Post by jenaro Sun Feb 15, 2009 9:57 pm

IMO ok lang sakin mapikon para maging "thick-skinned" ka pagdating sa critiques at hindi mo na itatake personally yung mga sinasabi nila. Para masanay na rin tayo, sa akin kasi parang medyo 'malalambot' pa tayo dito at mahirap mag improve kung puro bola lang diba.

Warning na lang talaga sa mga magpopost sa ICU.... Masasaktan talaga kayo doon pero ang results are worth it talaga at sure na matututo kayo! Kilangan maghirap/masaktan bago gumaling! hehe XD


tama un mga sir...tyak laging nandun gawa ko!nyahahahhaha...kayo na bahala sa pagpapalibing kapag na dedoo...hehehehe
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Post by AUSTRIA Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:03 am

Pwede b n may "ICU" din s photography? hehehe adviseable b un sir boks? Wat u think?
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Post by bokkins Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:25 am

sa photography bro, dun nalang sa photogallery or sa discussion. masyado ng madami. nakakalito na. haha. Smile
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Post by oRangE.n.GreeN Mon Feb 16, 2009 1:49 am

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thumbsup pagkatapos dumaan sa ICU, we can repost the final works in the proper forum.


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Post by torvicz Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:20 am

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a FORUM for those who wants to receive the most cruel, unsympathetic & unforgiving but equally valuable comments. in other words, for those who wants to improve their works & learn from the masters.

whut'yathink?


I think we are improving and we are learning already dude....



"redundancy"...

let's say I post an image here and post it again in other thread, for example in architectural or misc, would your comment be different from the other?
What I'm saying is that, you already have that freedom to speak freely dude! be it in 3d gallery, 2d or whatever...

let's just be careful of what we wish for...It's not that I'm against it I just
think it's unnecessary...

And what's wrong with "idol", "lufet", "buttrock"? they may not be cruel but I think they are purely true...

but it's up and running now, so let's just see what happens and hope for the best...



@dpxyl :what this thread for, then kalalabasan soft porn lang pala yung archi thread... tama po ba?

so this is the best place to post if you want to receive non-bias, in-your-face-cc which good for newbies and hardcore critics..while the old show-me-your-archiviz will be *hugs-and-kisses thread* natin?
- precisely dude!


baka lang mapunta sa bangayan to dude...ngayon nga lang marami nang mga pasaway e...yngat2 lang tayo...baka dumami lalo yang mga yan....paalala lang naman...
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Post by celes Mon Feb 16, 2009 2:42 am

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nothing wrong with "idol" "lufet" and "buttrock" - as long as wala sa ICU, imho.

i disagree that we are free to speak freely. when someone really does speak their mind, they get the irks from the general forum public and burned at the stake.

honestly im really sick of reading these when in general, the featured render in the gallery looks mediocre. plain and simply, this is classic a*l*ing. eh di na mababago yang sistema na yan, several forums and revamps after it's still the same. that's why sana, dito sa ICU, since sinabi na ni orangengreen:

a FORUM for those who wants to receive the most cruel, unsympathetic & unforgiving but equally valuable comments. in other words, for those who wants to improve their works & learn from the masters.

-para maiba naman.
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Post by Guest Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:19 am

aprub to mga bro thumbsup

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Post by torvicz Mon Feb 16, 2009 3:46 am

mushroom wrote:torvicz

nothing wrong with "idol" "lufet" and "buttrock" - as long as wala sa ICU, imho.

i disagree that we are free to speak freely. when someone really does speak their mind, they get the irks from the general forum public and burned at the stake.

honestly im really sick of reading these when in general, the featured render in the gallery looks mediocre. plain and simply, this is classic a*l*ing. eh di na mababago yang sistema na yan, several forums and revamps after it's still the same. that's why sana, dito sa ICU, since sinabi na ni orangengreen:

a FORUM for those who wants to receive the most cruel, unsympathetic & unforgiving but equally valuable comments. in other words, for those who wants to improve their works & learn from the masters.


-para maiba naman.

I dunno if dude boks wud agree that we are not free to say what we want here. cguro kung garbage lang naman sasabihin mo e talagang you'll be burned at the stake..that's for sure! at marami nang mga ganyan, ung iba nga visuals pa e...
medyo cluttered na kase ung site, ung iba wala pa ngang nagpopost...
sana lang wag mababoy...pardon my words...

So again, it's up and running, so let's see...If it turns out good, then we will all benefit from it...peace dude!
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