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Post by arjun_samar Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:04 am

CG peps, Tanung ko po, pwde po ba malaman yung complete detail ng pipe na e-aanchor sa conc. post? bali yung base po nya metal plate? e-weweld po ba ang pipe sa metal plate? matibay ba pag-ganun? bali ht ng pipe ay 3 meters lalagyan kc ng cross at basi po sa size ng posti anu pong size ng anchor bolt ang dapat gamitin? at thkness ng metal plate? salamat po.

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Post by whey09 Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:11 am

dapat naka full weld ang pipe sa metal plate,,,anong klaseng cross pala ang bubuhatin nung pipe? para mas matibay, i weld mo din yung mga anchor dun sa reinforcement nung cocnrete column.
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Post by arjun_samar Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:17 am

whey09 wrote:dapat naka full weld ang pipe sa metal plate,,,anong klaseng cross pala ang bubuhatin nung pipe? para mas matibay, i weld mo din yung mga anchor dun sa reinforcement nung cocnrete column.

4"X2" c-purlins bali dalawa pong pipe siya kabilaan tapos sa gitna my horizontal pipe kung saan e-weweld yung base ng cross, anung thickness po ba ng metal plate dapat gamitin? at size po ang anchor? salamat po.
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Post by akoy Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:19 am

arjun_samar wrote:
whey09 wrote:dapat naka full weld ang pipe sa metal plate,,,anong klaseng cross pala ang bubuhatin nung pipe? para mas matibay, i weld mo din yung mga anchor dun sa reinforcement nung cocnrete column.

4"X2" c-purlins bali dalawa pong pipe siya kabilaan tapos sa gitna my horizontal pipe kung saan e-weweld yung base ng cross, anung thickness po ba ng metal plate dapat gamitin? at size po ang anchor? salamat po.
tama c sir whey palabasin mo yung RSB tpos weld mo na din yung anchor ok na ata yung 3/4 diam bolt depende sa depth nya parang pedestal yan di ba sir?baka pwede na din 1/4 thk. ung plate basta full weld!kung mabigat yung cacarry nya lakihan mo na lang tubo hehehe yung lang sakin sir!wait mo pa yung iba hehehe Embarassed
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Post by deosrock Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:48 am

-kung ibaon mo kaya yung tubo sa concrete post bago buhusan, weld ka lang ng mga scrap na rsb dyan na magiging anchor nya... cgurao ako, matibay yun... IMHO lang nman...
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Post by jumach Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:32 pm

kung 2-1/2" dia. yung post mo ok na yun 3/8" thk plate at 3/8" din yung anchor bolt mo.... dapat yung anchor mo naka weld sa reinforcement ng poste... before mo pala e weld yung anchor bolt dapat may pattern ka para pag lagay ng poste mo na may plate sure na papasok.... yung pipe mo mas maganda kung GI at schd 40.... sana makatulong
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Post by arjun_samar Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:19 pm

akoy wrote:
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whey09 wrote:dapat naka full weld ang pipe sa metal plate,,,anong klaseng cross pala ang bubuhatin nung pipe? para mas matibay, i weld mo din yung mga anchor dun sa reinforcement nung cocnrete column.

4"X2" c-purlins bali dalawa pong pipe siya kabilaan tapos sa gitna my horizontal pipe kung saan e-weweld yung base ng cross, anung thickness po ba ng metal plate dapat gamitin? at size po ang anchor? salamat po.
tama c sir whey palabasin mo yung RSB tpos weld mo na din yung anchor ok na ata yung 3/4 diam bolt depende sa depth nya parang pedestal yan di ba sir?baka pwede na din 1/4 thk. ung plate basta full weld!kung mabigat yung cacarry nya lakihan mo na lang tubo hehehe yung lang sakin sir!wait mo pa yung iba hehehe Embarassed

salamat sa reply, land-mark po sya sa isang chapel sa Lal-lo,Cagayan.
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Post by arjun_samar Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:20 pm

deosrock wrote:-kung ibaon mo kaya yung tubo sa concrete post bago buhusan, weld ka lang ng mga scrap na rsb dyan na magiging anchor nya... cgurao ako, matibay yun... IMHO lang nman...

yan po yung una kong drawing kaso-pipapalitan.
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Post by arjun_samar Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:23 pm

jumach wrote:kung 2-1/2" dia. yung post mo ok na yun 3/8" thk plate at 3/8" din yung anchor bolt mo.... dapat yung anchor mo naka weld sa reinforcement ng poste... before mo pala e weld yung anchor bolt dapat may pattern ka para pag lagay ng poste mo na may plate sure na papasok.... yung pipe mo mas maganda kung GI at schd 40.... sana makatulong

salamat po sir,
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Post by bokkins Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:54 pm

ok ang mga suggestions dito bro, pro I suggest you consult an engineer, mahirap na kasi magkamali sa mga ganyan, landmark pa man din. good luck.
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Post by arjun_samar Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:33 pm

bokkins wrote:ok ang mga suggestions dito bro, pro I suggest you consult an engineer, mahirap na kasi magkamali sa mga ganyan, landmark pa man din. good luck.

nung pinagawa sakin to, dalawa yung ginawa 1. yung pipe ipapasuk sa loob ng column at yung isa ay lagyan nalang ng metal plate.
, our project engr here, tinanung ko sabi nya yung pipe ipasok na lang sa loob mismo ng column, kaso nung pinakita ko na boss ko which an engr. also pero yung sabi nya lagyan mo nang plate.
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Post by icefrik19 Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:36 pm

i prepared ibaon nlang sir masmatibay sya
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Post by bokkins Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:19 am

para sa akin, mas ok ang may plate. kasi sya sasalo lahat ng load at ililipat nya ito sa concrete which is good in terms of compression. ngayon kung ibabaon mo naman, pag may movement ka ng sideways, apektado ngayon ang concrete mo which is mahina sideways than load coming form above, result nyan cracking.

As for the sizes, engr na siguro talaga ang magsabi nyan.
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Post by akoy Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:33 am

arjun_samar wrote:
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whey09 wrote:dapat naka full weld ang pipe sa metal plate,,,anong klaseng cross pala ang bubuhatin nung pipe? para mas matibay, i weld mo din yung mga anchor dun sa reinforcement nung cocnrete column.

4"X2" c-purlins bali dalawa pong pipe siya kabilaan tapos sa gitna my horizontal pipe kung saan e-weweld yung base ng cross, anung thickness po ba ng metal plate dapat gamitin? at size po ang anchor? salamat po.
tama c sir whey palabasin mo yung RSB tpos weld mo na din yung anchor ok na ata yung 3/4 diam bolt depende sa depth nya parang pedestal yan di ba sir?baka pwede na din 1/4 thk. ung plate basta full weld!kung mabigat yung cacarry nya lakihan mo na lang tubo hehehe yung lang sakin sir!wait mo pa yung iba hehehe Embarassed

salamat sa reply, land-mark po sya sa isang chapel sa Lal-lo,Cagayan.
ooo??? malapet lang samin yan sir hehehe!galeng naman layo ng project ninyo d2 pa hehehe gudluck sana mkita namin final output 2thumbsup
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Post by arjun_samar Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:52 am

@ sir ice & sir bokks.

magkaiba man po opninion ng dalawang engr. dito yung sa boss ko na lang ang gagawin ko. just following orders from a much higher authority na lang. thumbsup as for the size ok na po. salamat sa reply.
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Post by arjun_samar Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:57 am

akoy wrote:
arjun_samar wrote:
akoy wrote:
arjun_samar wrote:
whey09 wrote:dapat naka full weld ang pipe sa metal plate,,,anong klaseng cross pala ang bubuhatin nung pipe? para mas matibay, i weld mo din yung mga anchor dun sa reinforcement nung cocnrete column.

4"X2" c-purlins bali dalawa pong pipe siya kabilaan tapos sa gitna my horizontal pipe kung saan e-weweld yung base ng cross, anung thickness po ba ng metal plate dapat gamitin? at size po ang anchor? salamat po.
tama c sir whey palabasin mo yung RSB tpos weld mo na din yung anchor ok na ata yung 3/4 diam bolt depende sa depth nya parang pedestal yan di ba sir?baka pwede na din 1/4 thk. ung plate basta full weld!kung mabigat yung cacarry nya lakihan mo na lang tubo hehehe yung lang sakin sir!wait mo pa yung iba hehehe Embarassed

salamat sa reply, land-mark po sya sa isang chapel sa Lal-lo,Cagayan.
ooo??? malapet lang samin yan sir hehehe!galeng naman layo ng project ninyo d2 pa hehehe gudluck sana mkita namin final output 2thumbsup

probensya ng boss ko sa lal-lo,. andoon yung chapel sa magapit, next week na kasi to gagawin yung land mark, yung chapel nagawa na rin.
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Post by mokong Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:11 am

mas ok pag may plate bro at tama c sir bokkins.. yung concetrated load ng cross ay ma transfer sa plate.. at magiging uniform load ito papunta sa concrete pedestal or column.. pwd mo naman ipa compute yan sa engineer.. madali lng yan.. yung thickness ng plate mo ay magdedepende sa load ng cross.. sama mo na din yung thickness ng full weld ng cross at plate at size ng bolt.. yung length naman ng anchorage mo ay magdedepende sa wind load ng cross.. eto naman to prevent moment sideways.. sa tingin ko maliit lng yung wind load kasi cross lng naman at maliit yung surface area niya.. maybe you can use the minimum length ng anchorage.. u can refer to NSCP..
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Post by arjun_samar Fri Feb 26, 2010 6:26 am

mokong wrote:mas ok pag may plate bro at tama c sir bokkins.. yung concetrated load ng cross ay ma transfer sa plate.. at magiging uniform load ito papunta sa concrete pedestal or column.. pwd mo naman ipa compute yan sa engineer.. madali lng yan.. yung thickness ng plate mo ay magdedepende sa load ng cross.. sama mo na din yung thickness ng full weld ng cross at plate at size ng bolt.. yung length naman ng anchorage mo ay magdedepende sa wind load ng cross.. eto naman to prevent moment sideways.. sa tingin ko maliit lng yung wind load kasi cross lng naman at maliit yung surface area niya.. maybe you can use the minimum length ng anchorage.. u can refer to NSCP..


Salamat po sa reply sir, tungkol sa pagtanung sa engr. sinbukan ko na kaso wala rin spicific na sagot, "e-anu mo na lang" ang sabi. No No No , yung 1/2" thk. na plate ok na po ba? pati yung 1/2" dia. na abchor bolt? kaso di ko alam kung ganu kahaba, at yung column pinabago, dati +1.20 m ngayun pinagawang 0.20m. search din ako sa NCSP, salamat po.
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Post by mokong Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:18 am

arjun_samar wrote:
mokong wrote:mas ok pag may plate bro at tama c sir bokkins.. yung concetrated load ng cross ay ma transfer sa plate.. at magiging uniform load ito papunta sa concrete pedestal or column.. pwd mo naman ipa compute yan sa engineer.. madali lng yan.. yung thickness ng plate mo ay magdedepende sa load ng cross.. sama mo na din yung thickness ng full weld ng cross at plate at size ng bolt.. yung length naman ng anchorage mo ay magdedepende sa wind load ng cross.. eto naman to prevent moment sideways.. sa tingin ko maliit lng yung wind load kasi cross lng naman at maliit yung surface area niya.. maybe you can use the minimum length ng anchorage.. u can refer to NSCP..


Salamat po sa reply sir, tungkol sa pagtanung sa engr. sinbukan ko na kaso wala rin spicific na sagot, "e-anu mo na lang" ang sabi. No No No , yung 1/2" thk. na plate ok na po ba? pati yung 1/2" dia. na abchor bolt? kaso di ko alam kung ganu kahaba, at yung column pinabago, dati +1.20 m ngayun pinagawang 0.20m. search din ako sa NCSP, salamat po.

cguro base on experience yung sinabi niya.. well for me, its better to check it through computations if u are in doubt.. yan kasi problema sa ibang engineers tinatamad mag compute o d kaya nakalimutan na..hehehe.. minsan na nalilimutan na ang purpose sa pag design, kaya kadalasan overdesign imbis na optimum kylangan.. ang masakit pa nito pag overdesign, mas magastos.. wel as an advice, if u have a friend who is good in design pwd mong ipa check sa kanya.. Very Happy
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Post by arjun_samar Sat Feb 27, 2010 12:55 am

mokong wrote:
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mokong wrote:mas ok pag may plate bro at tama c sir bokkins.. yung concetrated load ng cross ay ma transfer sa plate.. at magiging uniform load ito papunta sa concrete pedestal or column.. pwd mo naman ipa compute yan sa engineer.. madali lng yan.. yung thickness ng plate mo ay magdedepende sa load ng cross.. sama mo na din yung thickness ng full weld ng cross at plate at size ng bolt.. yung length naman ng anchorage mo ay magdedepende sa wind load ng cross.. eto naman to prevent moment sideways.. sa tingin ko maliit lng yung wind load kasi cross lng naman at maliit yung surface area niya.. maybe you can use the minimum length ng anchorage.. u can refer to NSCP..


Salamat po sa reply sir, tungkol sa pagtanung sa engr. sinbukan ko na kaso wala rin spicific na sagot, "e-anu mo na lang" ang sabi. No No No , yung 1/2" thk. na plate ok na po ba? pati yung 1/2" dia. na abchor bolt? kaso di ko alam kung ganu kahaba, at yung column pinabago, dati +1.20 m ngayun pinagawang 0.20m. search din ako sa NCSP, salamat po.

cguro base on experience yung sinabi niya.. well for me, its better to check it through computations if u are in doubt.. yan kasi problema sa ibang engineers tinatamad mag compute o d kaya nakalimutan na..hehehe.. minsan na nalilimutan na ang purpose sa pag design, kaya kadalasan overdesign imbis na optimum kylangan.. ang masakit pa nito pag overdesign, mas magastos.. wel as an advice, if u have a friend who is good in design pwd mong ipa check sa kanya.. Very Happy


salamat po sa advice sir.
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