4th (Last) Update - SINGAPORE KINDERGARTEN MUSIC & DANCE ROOM - RENOVATION WORKS (MENTAL RAY)

Hello CGP,

Mga masters and sirs, share ko lang po itong latest work and study with mental ray blackbody and importons... medyo natagalan po sa pagpost sa sobrang busy...

here's the raw render
view #1 - A

simple music and dance room renovation works, not much on design...

some photoshop: colour tweaking, bluring, level adjustment and HDR screening
view #1 - B


NEW IMAGE 1/4 - Kindergarten Room view 1 (with photoshop adjustments)


NEW IMAGE 2/4 - Kindergarten Room view 1 (more post prod.)


NEW IMAGE 3/4 - Kindergarten Room view 2


NEW IMAGE 4/4 - quick board layout


NEW IMAGE 1 OF 4 - children/adult toilet VIEW 1. Note: Lavatories/wash basins are in Child Standard Height as required by client.


NEW IMAGE 2 OF 4 - children/adult toilet VIEW 2.


NEW IMAGE 3 OF 4 - children/adult toilet VIEW 3.


NEW IMAGE 4 OF 4 - quick board presentation layout


LAST IMAGE 1/2

LAST IMAGE 2/2


Sensya na po sa flaws, dami pang dapat iimprove, di ko pa din makuha yun tamang realistic mood.
Question lang po sa mga masters natin diyan, if you have any tips on how to render high rez files like 2400-3600 in a very reasonable time?? Been trying to render big files but my pc won't let me, sobrang tagal, like 12 hours and beyond, normal ba yun??

C&C's are very welcome.

All the best po sa lahat!

-Ad Majorem Dei Gloriam

Nice render bro. Ganda lalo after the tweak! Pwede mo palang gawin sa hi res render is save mo yung irmap using a low res render muna, then ilagay mo sa hi res render para di na sya magcompute ulit. Good luck!

bokkins wrote:Nice render bro. Ganda lalo after the tweak! Pwede mo palang gawin sa hi res render is save mo yung irmap using a low res render muna, then ilagay mo sa hi res render para di na sya magcompute ulit. Good luck!

Sir boks, thanks for the appreciation po. About sa saving ng irmap, ginagawa ko yun with GI and FG maps and read only yung maps, pero on top of that matagal pa din render time ko. di po kaya nagpapabagal talaga and blackbody sa rendering? salamat ulit

Try mo din yung no fg bro. parang may nakita akong ganun. it looks the same pa din naman. I'll try to look for it. parang sa evermotion yata nya nagawa yun.

Sarap tingnan lalo na yung second image, parang totoo. I like the shaders of the floor kahit visible yung tiling....but that's minimal.

Good Job Sir....

bokkins wrote:Try mo din yung no fg bro. parang may nakita akong ganun. it looks the same pa din naman. I'll try to look for it. parang sa evermotion yata nya nagawa yun.

wow, ok ata yun sir, try ko tonight... so pag using blackbody and/or importons, kahit ala nng FG ganun ba sir boks??

thanks thanks ulit sir!

kurdaps! wrote:Sarap tingnan lalo na yung second image, parang totoo. I like the shaders of the floor kahit visible yung tiling....but that's minimal.

Good Job Sir....

Sir Kurdaps, thanks for the kind words and comments! Isa kayo sa idol ko!!! Yun tiling po vinyl tiles kasi recommended ng arch't namin... try din namin kung mas-effective yun hardwood timber strips... salamat po ulit sa pagdaan. more power sa inyo!

Very nice sir, realistic

i like 1st image...looks real n bro...i agree with bokkins comments...follow mo lang..keep posting!

very realistic rendering in mental ray

verify the human scale bro. i think maliit masyado ung kids. and ung effect nya somehow decrease the astig factor of the realism you achieved on your render. hindi kasi nagmatch ung tama ng ilaw sa photo. ung shadow/reflection din ng kids sa floor off.

can you share your mental ray settings with render menu images?

rangalua wrote:Very nice sir, realistic

salamant ng marami sa pagdaan bro! hehe realistic na din pala... glad you noticed

Butz_Arki wrote:i like 1st image...looks real n bro...i agree with bokkins comments...follow mo lang..keep posting!

sir butz, salamat po sa pagdaan. glad you liked the raw image, I guess I over do the tweaking, I'll take note po... next time I'll try to preserve the raw condition of the textures, thanks po sa comment!

A.K.A. wrote:very realistic rendering in mental ray

verify the human scale bro. i think maliit masyado ung kids. and ung effect nya somehow decrease the astig factor of the realism you achieved on your render. hindi kasi nagmatch ung tama ng ilaw sa photo. ung shadow/reflection din ng kids sa floor off.

can you share your mental ray settings with render menu images?

hehe salamat ng marami sa comment sir, tama kayo sa proportion, napansin din ng architect namin yan, although yun actual window kasi mataas talaga kaya naobvious yun proportion nun kids.. nice comments po.

yun setting sir share ko tonight right here in this thread. pakinote lang po, blackbody po and main course dito, 2nd lang yun render setting. If you know about blackbody shader mabuti po, kung di naman, i'll include some tips and info about it as well.

marcelinoiii wrote:yun setting sir share ko tonight right here in this thread. pakinote lang po, blackbody po and main course dito, 2nd lang yun render setting. If you know about blackbody shader mabuti po, kung di naman, i'll include some tips and info about it as well.

thanks bro. yup feel free to share na rin ung blackbody shader. hindi ko alam yan

i like the 2nd image... nagkaroon ng buhay after tweak... though may mga minor comments.. pero di na halata yon..

Ar_Can_EVSU wrote:i like the 2nd image... nagkaroon ng buhay after tweak... though may mga minor comments.. pero di na halata yon..

salamat po ng maraming sa pagtangkilik sir!!! much appreciated po!

Ang pino na nito. Malinis ang render. Big step up ito bro. Galing.
At parang nagpapakadalubhasa ka sa Importons.

To render in high resolution, generate ka ng Final Gather map sa half the resolution of your final render size. Then FG Freeze. Rays per FG Point plays a big role in your render time. If you can get away with at least 150 then good. Global Illumination is also a factor. See these links for added info about high res renders.
zap's blog
mrbluesummers.com
Comments lang:
Parang sa camera side lang ang light source mo. Wala bang papasok na ilaw sa dalawang bintana?
Hindi ba Mr Sun & Sky ang light source?

Again, Keep it up.

a normal/common person could not differentiate a photo and a 3D rendering like this first image. (and visualiser above normal yan) rendering wise, realistic na ito bro and i like the 1st image.

bro, pwede c+c... yung kid sa left side kasi, may reflection galing sa window
kaso wala namang light source at madilim ang bintana... otherwise, A+ ang rating nito... just one thing... 12hrs pa kamo ang rendering time nitong scene.... ?

logikpixel wrote:Ang pino na nito. Malinis ang render. Big step up ito bro. Galing.
At parang nagpapakadalubhasa ka sa Importons.

To render in high resolution, generate ka ng Final Gather map sa half the resolution of your final render size. Then FG Freeze. Rays per FG Point plays a big role in your render time. If you can get away with at least 150 then good. Global Illumination is also a factor. See these links for added info about high res renders.
zap's blog
mrbluesummers.com
Comments lang:
Parang sa camera side lang ang light source mo. Wala bang papasok na ilaw sa dalawang bintana?
Hindi ba Mr Sun & Sky ang light source?

Again, Keep it up.

Sir Logikpixel, thanks for dropping by. I appreciate your kind comments.

I am still exploring importons, Sir. And I am yet far from your realistic renders, sana marami pa ko matutunan sa inyo

Sir, nabasa ko na yun FG freeze nun, ibig bang sabihin nun uncheck FG or turn it off after saving the map file in a low rez render??

Thanks again for the tips sir. I'll be checking the links you gave.

About the source of light, the room has it's canopy outside kaya di pasok yun MR Sun, but then I guess I mistakenly placed the MR Skyportal dun sa 2 windows facing the camera. hehe thanks for noticing.

bRuTuS wrote:a normal/common person could not differentiate a photo and a 3D rendering like this first image. (and visualiser above normal yan) rendering wise, realistic na ito bro and i like the 1st image.

bro, pwede c+c... yung kid sa left side kasi, may reflection galing sa window
kaso wala namang light source at madilim ang bintana... otherwise, A+ ang rating nito... just one thing... 12hrs pa kamo ang rendering time nitong scene.... ?

Sir, thanks for the comments. Actually sir hot picked lang ang mga kids from photostock... I'll be needing to pick better suiting images next time hehehe. Thanks po napansin nyo. Although yun window sa left po my light naman, that's where I actually located my MR sky portal with the blackbody shader, I guess not enough emphasis though, I'll need to work out the effects..

as for the render time, about 8 hours po ito, like I said, matagal rendering time ko, the fact that this is only 800 max in size... kung tumaas ako ng 1200 and up, di natatapos ang render ko 12 hours and beyond ala pa sa kalahati... I am trying to figure out what's wrong with my settings... aside from the procedures following adding FG and GI maps from a low rez image, meron pa siguro ko namiss... I am about to find out from Sir Logik's kind provision of references, check ntin

To render in high resolution, generate ka ng Final Gather map sa half the resolution of your final render size. Then FG Freeze. Rays per FG Point plays a big role in your render time. If you can get away with at least 150 then good. Global Illumination is also a factor. See these links for added info about high res renders.

Sir Logik, sorry alam ko na pala yun freeze FG, yun pala yun set to read only file ng FG map file saved... I only realized when I saw the video of MR Summers. thanks ulit.

A.K.A. wrote:

marcelinoiii wrote:yun setting sir share ko tonight right here in this thread. pakinote lang po, blackbody po and main course dito, 2nd lang yun render setting. If you know about blackbody shader mabuti po, kung di naman, i'll include some tips and info about it as well.

thanks bro. yup feel free to share na rin ung blackbody shader. hindi ko alam yan

Sir eto po yun simple setting ko, for final render na po ito.

Render:

-no changes below, only defaults

Indirect Illumination:


-for final render
-Please note: MAX2010 po ito (iba ang features ng konti kung MAX2009 kayo), and after writing the FG and GI map files we then set it to read only or in short, freeze it as what our masters say.

Info about Blackbody:
http://xgeek.org/2009/08/mental-ray-cie-d-illuminant-and-blackbody-radiator-shaders/
And about Importons and Irradience particles:
http://www.cgpinoy.org/mental-ray-f71/importons-and-irradiance-particles-matters-for-logikpixel-t7111.htm

For Blackbody Procedures or How to use it:
by Sir Edosayla po ang video na ito, download it here at cgp in this link:
http://www.cgpinoy.org/mental-ray-tutorials-f44/pinoycad-3dsmax-advanced-lesson-4-part-2-t4677.htm

Salamat po. Sana makatulong!!!

Share ko lang po updates mga masters... pacomment na lang po

NEW IMAGE 1/4 - Kindergarten Room view 1 (with photoshop adjustments)


NEW IMAGE 2/4 - Kindergarten Room view 1 (more post prod.)


NEW IMAGE 3/4 - Kindergarten Room view 2


NEW IMAGE 4/4 - quick board layout

mukhang gusto ko na tuloy bumalik sa mental ray ahh! he he he maganda bro ! how long did it take to render each final views ?thnks bro for sharing ...

Ang ganda ng mga Presentations Sir...very-well done!