need help po mga cgp members...

mga sir/mam..ask ko lng po if ano po ang prob. ng comp/laptop ko or ( settings )_(hehehe)..

kc lagi kmi nagtatalo ng boss ko
kc pag nag 3D ako matagal po..en la masyado abubot, kung mapapansin nyo
po sa mga 3D post ko dito.,.sa modeling pag sumampa na ng 300k polycounts nag slow motion n ung galaw ng max
khit naka freeze en display as box ung mga object.. kaya ang tagal pag nag momodel ako en naglalagay ng materials
tpos sa rendering 600k polycounts lng inaabot ng 3-4 hrs. mabilis n yan ,pinaka mabilis n ung 1 1/2 hrs.. kung maliit ung scene
tpos pag umabot ng 700k and up ang polycounts nag crash n cia..nag proxy nmn po ako..
tpos pag bibintangan p ko n di ceneseryoso ung work kaya matagal en parang d raw interior ung scene kasi la masyado
abubot..tuwing sasabhin ko nmn n ibili nila ko ng comp. khit quad lng..deadma lng nila ko..

tpos salary ko lng 1800 saudi riyals = 480 dollars lng...ask ko n rin po magkano po b dapat ang salary ko??

ito po ang work ko = 3D visualizer, draftsman/cad operator...yan lng dati..now ginawa n rin nila akong designer..

bka naman po my hiring dyan sa inyo...( d nga lng ako mxado mgaling sa 3D max) hehehe

ito po specs ng ginagamit ko.

intel(R)core(TM)2 duo 2.00GHz
32 bit OS vista
3.5 GB RAM
dedicated graphics memory = 128 mb nvidia geforce 8400M GS ( VIDEO CARD/GRAPHICS CARD)
hard disk= 150 GB

bro baka me virus pc mo! last 4 - 5 years ago ganyan gamit namin di naman ganyan ka tagal. baka render setting mo malupit. ano software gamit mo? ano windows mo? sa sweldo naman bro, hanap ka ng iba pero wag ka muna mag resign. GOODLUCK!!!!!

1800?libre na tira at fud?medyo mababa nga yan bro...pero kung libre tira at fud medyo ok na sa starting...kasi normally starting dito 4k lahat lahat na un...

i agree sa work kay sir artedesenyo. wag masyadong magpadala sa galit. sa pc naman, maybe you need new one. or if di ka nman pinapansin ng boss mo. Batukan mo nalang. wahihihihi.. joke lang....

basta take it easy ha. masama kasi ang nagagalit....
kaw rin, papangit ka nyan.... wahihihi..
smile lang always. kahit pinagagalitan ka na ng boss

ang liit ng video card mo kaya nag ha hang yan palitan mo 512 or 1GB

Sir upgrade mo computer mo

intel(R)core(TM)2 duo 3.33GHz 64mbps ( para medyo bumilis)
dedicated graphics memory = 512 ( min) mb
hard disk= 320GB

isa pa learn how to optimize polys.

about sa salary, normally sa cad opertor/3d visualizer basic = about 3500 sr, package 4500 + ( package)

artedesenyo wrote:bro baka me virus pc mo! last 4 - 5 years ago ganyan gamit namin di naman ganyan ka tagal. baka render setting mo malupit. ano software gamit mo? ano windows mo? sa sweldo naman bro, hanap ka ng iba pero wag ka muna mag resign. GOODLUCK!!!!!

salamat sir ...kakaformat ko lng sir ng laptop ko...
nag hahanap n nga ako ng mlilipatan eh......tnx ulit sir..

jenaro wrote:1800?libre na tira at fud?medyo mababa nga yan bro...pero kung libre tira at fud medyo ok na sa starting...kasi normally starting dito 4k lahat lahat na un...

sir hauz lng libre...fud samin ang gastos......kaya ung 1800...halos la n natitira sakin..
thanks po sa pag daan..

Yhna wrote:i agree sa work kay sir artedesenyo. wag masyadong magpadala sa galit. sa pc naman, maybe you need new one. or if di ka nman pinapansin ng boss mo. Batukan mo nalang. wahihihihi.. joke lang....

basta take it easy ha. masama kasi ang nagagalit....
kaw rin, papangit ka nyan.... wahihihi..
smile lang always. kahit pinagagalitan ka na ng boss

cno b nmn d magagalit...halos 4 n araw nko la tulog....para lng matapos ung proj.
tpos sasabhin p sau n d ka nag focus sa work,,.. n nag lalaro k lng sa work....hmmmppp
kainizzz....

ingatz nlng mam yhna....mizzzz yah....

tama po si ser master render,

3D newbie wrote:
ingatz nlng mam yhna....mizzzz yah....

@3D Newbie
bro tanong lang... laptop ang gamit mo sa office? kakaiba ung company mo kung ganun. about sa pag-treat sayo and salary i STRONGLY suggest na huwag mong sayangin ang time mo dyan. 1800SR is exploitation bro. and kapag pumayag ka sa ganun kawawa naman ung mga pinoy at ibang lahi na magiging employee pa ng company mo kasi magkakaroon ng pattern... ganun talaga yata dito sa middle east... karamihan ng company ay hindi nila alam ang heirarchy ng job description kaya kahit draftsman ang nakalagay sa contract mo ang kalalabasan nyan ay puro slashes isang way din nila yan kasi para makatipid sa pagbabayad ng residence id at visa. mahal kasi pag architect, interior designer at other professional designation.

nasa sayo pa rin ang desisyon bro...

kietsmark wrote:@3D Newbie
bro tanong lang... laptop ang gamit mo sa office? kakaiba ung company mo kung ganun. about sa pag-treat sayo and salary i STRONGLY suggest na huwag mong sayangin ang time mo dyan. 1800SR is exploitation bro. and kapag pumayag ka sa ganun kawawa naman ung mga pinoy at ibang lahi na magiging employee pa ng company mo kasi magkakaroon ng pattern... ganun talaga yata dito sa middle east... karamihan ng company ay hindi nila alam ang heirarchy ng job description kaya kahit draftsman ang nakalagay sa contract mo ang kalalabasan nyan ay puro slashes isang way din nila yan kasi para makatipid sa pagbabayad ng residence id at visa. mahal kasi pag architect, interior designer at other professional designation.

nasa sayo pa rin ang desisyon bro...

salamat po sir..pumayag po ako nung una kc first time ko po..en wala ako idea bout sa salary ng 3D en sabi kc dadag-dagan daw salary ko pag dating ko d2..kaso wala nmn..yah..nkapag desisyon n po ako..hahanap ako en lilipat sa iba...
mabait nmn po boss ko...kaso sabi nga ng mom ko..aanhin mo ang bait ng boss mo if ganyan nmn salary mo...
en i guess my mom is right...salamat po sa lhat ng dumaan...
@ render master..thanks po sa idea bout salary...

I use a laptop too about the same spec as yours. I use it as a backup work machine whenever I want to tinker with projects at home. And I seldom find problems.

The best way to find the actual problem is to borrow a deskstop machine from your coworkers and use that in your next project. And then see if that makes any difference.

If not, then there is certainly wrong with your workflow and/or you need to evaluate your working speed.

While it is not correct for superiors to stay ignorant of what it takes to come up with a 3d image and the efforts that goes with it - it also helps to understand that your boss simply has problems expressing what indifferent clients might say.

Most of the times - paying clients do not care if you haven't slept for four days - all they would care about is the image they require. So there you go, its not just you if that can even make you feel better.

With regards to the pay, I cannot comment on the going rate in that part of the globe because I haven't lived there, but I think that even if you get a lesser salary in the Philippines - the thought of being in your homeground with the family is still priceless and uncomparable. BTW, I know some people who made a difference and earn more or twice the same rate in Manila.
Which means - if you are good and you know you can bring good business to your employers - there isn't any reason to leave the Philippines.

If I were you and I feel being taken for a ride, I'd make two choices: I'd move somewhere else (someplace they'll give me a real machine and an equal opportunity) or give the Philippines a second chance again. I'll probably choose the latter.

Goodluck!

v_wrangler wrote:I use a laptop too about the same spec as yours. I use it as a backup work machine whenever I want to tinker with projects at home. And I seldom find problems.

The best way to find the actual problem is to borrow a deskstop machine from your coworkers and use that in your next project. And then see if that makes any difference.

If not, then there is certainly wrong with your workflow and/or you need to evaluate your working speed.

While it is not correct for superiors to stay ignorant of what it takes to come up with a 3d image and the efforts that goes with it - it also helps to understand that your boss simply has problems expressing what indifferent clients might say.

Most of the times - paying clients do not care if you haven't slept for four days - all they would care about is the image they require. So there you go, its not just you if that can even make you feel better.

With regards to the pay, I cannot comment on the going rate in that part of the globe because I haven't lived there, but I think that even if you get a lesser salary in the Philippines - the thought of being in your homeground with the family is still priceless and uncomparable.

If I were you and I feel being taken for a ride, I'd make two choices: I'd move somewhere else (someplace they'll give me a real machine and an equal opportunity) or give the Philippines a second chance again. I'll probably choose the latter.

Goodluck!

thanks po maser V.....yah..try ko po cnsabi nyo...
en pag vacation ko sa phil..try ko if ok ang magi2ng sitwasyon..if ok,,d nko aaliz..

masarap ata sa phil. hehehehe

@3D newbie
it is a sad truth na isang kaugalian na ng mga pinoy ang pumayag na mababa ang sweldo kasi katwiran ay baguhan... baguhan na matatawag kung wala ka pang experience sa work na applyan mo pero kung meron na e dapat marunong tayong maging firmed lalo na kung well supported naman ng portfolio.

good to know nagdesisyon ka na. but take into consideration na bago ka magresign at maghanap ka muna ng 100% na malilipatan then give your employer at least a month for the smooth transition of works tasked to you.

ang pagiging "MABAIT" comes into many faces kaya BEWARE Goodluck bro

I'd like to expand what kietsmark mentioned otherwise we will be a bunch of rowdy, demanding and utterly masyadong bilib sa sarili - ignoramus filipino nationals abroad.

It's not wrong to ask for what you deserve but it doesn't mean that "What Pedro receives, Juan must also receive"

Why?

If Pedro is a master of his craft and Juan is an inferior pedro wannabee, I doubt employers in their good minds will even pay Juan the same amount they pay Pedro. Its just not fair.

So the bottomline of all bottomlines:

Your work will speak for itself - that's the gauge.

If you know someone who gets paid gazillions and he pump excellent images - do not envy or cry foul in the name of the motherland, pag-aralan mo estilo nya, learn from him and be good or even better than him.

Once you are able to achieve that - iparada mo ngayon iyang images mo and ask for what you really deserve.

I've interviewed people who speak like they know what they talk about, ask more salary than I can ever receive yet the protfolio was like the abomination!

v_wrangler wrote:I'd like to expand what kietsmark mentioned otherwise we will be a bunch of rowdy, demanding and utterly masyadong bilib sa sarili - ignoramus filipino nationals abroad.

It's not wrong to ask for what you deserve but it doesn't mean that "What Pedro receives, Juan must also receive"

Why?

If Pedro is a master of his craft and Juan is an inferior pedro wannabee, I doubt employers in their good minds will even pay Juan the same amount they pay Pedro. Its just not fair.

So the bottomline of all bottomlines:

Your work will speak for itself - that's the gauge.

If you know someone who gets paid gazillions and he pump excellent images - do not envy or cry foul in the name of the motherland, pag-aralan mo estilo nya, learn from him and be good or even better than him.

Once you are able to achieve that - iparada mo ngayon iyang images mo and ask for what you really deserve.

I've interviewed people who speak like they know what they talk about, ask more salary than I can ever receive yet the protfolio was like the abomination!

yup this is absolutely right kaya gaya ng sabi ko... kelangan supported ng portfolio ung asking salary and to add... make a survey first kung magkano ang bigayan sa lugar na aapplyan...

v_wrangler wrote:I'd like to expand what kietsmark mentioned otherwise we will be a bunch of rowdy, demanding and utterly masyadong bilib sa sarili - ignoramus filipino nationals abroad.

It's not wrong to ask for what you deserve but it doesn't mean that "What Pedro receives, Juan must also receive"

Why?

If Pedro is a master of his craft and Juan is an inferior pedro wannabee, I doubt employers in their good minds will even pay Juan the same amount they pay Pedro. Its just not fair.

So the bottomline of all bottomlines:

Your work will speak for itself - that's the gauge.

If you know someone who gets paid gazillions and he pump excellent images - do not envy or cry foul in the name of the motherland, pag-aralan mo estilo nya, learn from him and be good or even better than him.

Once you are able to achieve that - iparada mo ngayon iyang images mo and ask for what you really deserve.

I've interviewed people who speak like they know what they talk about, ask more salary than I can ever receive yet the protfolio was like the abomination!

tama po kayo master V...

yah..d nga po ako gnun kgaling sa 3D max..but if u will compare sa work ko dati sa ngayon...msasabi ko po n

malaki ang pinabago en improve...but i know n marami p akong dapat mtutunan..
kaso khit nkikita nya ung improvements ko...wala lng..deadma..
d nmn ako humihingi ng sobrang laki n salary...tulad nga po ng sinabi nyo master V.. ung nararapat lng and naayon sa
kakayahan ko..kaso tingin ko po d n kc tama tlga..lalo n pinagdedesign n rin ako..
salamat po ulit.... sana ma meet ko po ung mga members ng CGP...ang babait kc eh
hope ma meet ko rin kayo master V pag uwi ko ng pilipinas...CGP astig

alam mo pre maliit ang sweldo mo kaso, mas maganda parin kung paano simply 3d lang ang gagwin mo wagkang masyado maglalagay ng maraming lights at shadows sa render mo kasi may posibilidad na mag crush ang pc mo

Yhna wrote:

3D newbie wrote:
ingatz nlng mam yhna....mizzzz yah....

aha ano ito?love thread ba ito?nyahahhaha...

btt:libre tira...medyo mababa nga bro.ok naman ba ung tirahan?antay antay ka lang bro...makakalipat ka din.

napkababa nmn yang sahod u dyn...tapos designer kapa.. kawawa ka nmn dyan bro... ang nakakainis pa dyn akala mo ang gagaling ng mga arabo...eh wala pa nmn scientist na arabo ah...ginamit lng nila talino mo...

same pala tayo bro. di kasi nila alama kunga paano gagawin at kung gaano ka tagal ang 3d. gusto kasi nila output.... kaya next time hahanap nalang ako ng ibang company na alam ng kung paano procedure na 3d. ok sa iyo contemporary sa akin fully classical detail. haay.... ang advantage nga lang sa akin boxX. pero ganun parin matagal ang modeling lalo na pag maraming carvings ang interior at furniture.

inum nalang tayo

by the way saan ka sa saudi?

danz

maybe u can improve your video card, medyo mababa ata.