designing a High Rise Condo
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mariebambi
honey_the_great
jenaro
benj.arki
markuz23
manex
ortzak
xxdarcxx
bokkins
ishae_clanx
3DZONE
arki_vhin
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designing a High Rise Condo
need ko pa po ng maraming reference...for my thesis this comming 2010...
pa help po..what are the things, considerations, etc. in planning a high rise Mixed used condominium..medjo parang kulang pa ang research ko before i proceed sa planning...maraming salamat po...
pa help po..what are the things, considerations, etc. in planning a high rise Mixed used condominium..medjo parang kulang pa ang research ko before i proceed sa planning...maraming salamat po...
arki_vhin- CGP Dabarkads
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
Bro kung meron kang "Neufert Architects Data 3rd Edition" malaki maitutulong sa yo nito...gudlak
3DZONE- Cube Spinner
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
tsk tsk tsk....mahirap yan sir..
goodluck sa thesis...pati kami next year na rin ang thesis....sayang nga lang kasi limited to bagio lang ang pwedeng proposal and dapat yung pwedeng magamit sa city,...
good luck sir
goodluck sa thesis...pati kami next year na rin ang thesis....sayang nga lang kasi limited to bagio lang ang pwedeng proposal and dapat yung pwedeng magamit sa city,...
good luck sir
ishae_clanx- CGP Guru
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
meaning pag mixed, work on the mixes of establishments na ilalagay mo. aralin mo ang security ng bawat mix, for example. hanggang san lang ang commercial, ano ang oras ng operation? dapat ba ang link ng commercial sa residential may guards, may elavators ba na direct from ground to the top floor, san dapat magstop ang elevators. or escalators lang dapat sa mga malls, tapos ung top floors may sariling lobby.
tanong mo na din sa sarili mo na dapat ba may hotel? hotel at residential dapat bang katabi? anong oras ngsisimula ang operations ng mix mo. 24/7 ba? dapat lahat ng mga 8-5 sa isang place, mga 10am-12pm sa isang part din, 4pm-6am sa isang part din. tapos mga 24 hours like call centers may lugar pa sa mix mo? the better the mix the dynamic sa system, the more successful is you mixed used structure.
also consider the maintenance for a 24/7 operation na hindi sagabal sa negosyo. good luck!
tanong mo na din sa sarili mo na dapat ba may hotel? hotel at residential dapat bang katabi? anong oras ngsisimula ang operations ng mix mo. 24/7 ba? dapat lahat ng mga 8-5 sa isang place, mga 10am-12pm sa isang part din, 4pm-6am sa isang part din. tapos mga 24 hours like call centers may lugar pa sa mix mo? the better the mix the dynamic sa system, the more successful is you mixed used structure.
also consider the maintenance for a 24/7 operation na hindi sagabal sa negosyo. good luck!
Re: designing a High Rise Condo
hehe... ayus thesis season nanaman.....
critical sa mixed use ang point of access between private and public spaces...
technically ung sanitary system/layout at ibang utilities ang usual na tinatanong ng juries.... gudlak sir vhin....
structural details din....
critical sa mixed use ang point of access between private and public spaces...
technically ung sanitary system/layout at ibang utilities ang usual na tinatanong ng juries.... gudlak sir vhin....
structural details din....
xxdarcxx- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
sorry high rise pala. haha.
bale, structural frame dapat maganda para ang spaces ng rooms at partition maganda pati ng parking area.
also ung utilities dapat organized, plumbing, electrical, mechanical, fire protection, hvac(aircon), telephone(PABX), CCTV, lahat yun dapat organized.
parking system dapat maganda din.
glazing din, ung mga curtain wall systems. maganda din makaintroduce ka ng bago kasi simple lang na thesis pag highrise lang, everybody's doing highrise, what's new with your highrise should be the question you should be asking yourself. something that you can contribute to the building industry. mas bago mas magaling. kahit hypothetical lang yan, that's even better kasi magiging research base ang thesis mo which a way to go. good luck ulit!
bale, structural frame dapat maganda para ang spaces ng rooms at partition maganda pati ng parking area.
also ung utilities dapat organized, plumbing, electrical, mechanical, fire protection, hvac(aircon), telephone(PABX), CCTV, lahat yun dapat organized.
parking system dapat maganda din.
glazing din, ung mga curtain wall systems. maganda din makaintroduce ka ng bago kasi simple lang na thesis pag highrise lang, everybody's doing highrise, what's new with your highrise should be the question you should be asking yourself. something that you can contribute to the building industry. mas bago mas magaling. kahit hypothetical lang yan, that's even better kasi magiging research base ang thesis mo which a way to go. good luck ulit!
Re: designing a High Rise Condo
maraming salamat sa inyo...
arki_vhin- CGP Dabarkads
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
pa add pa....
natural lighting and ventilation specially on t&b if possible.... para tipid
try mo unahin ung plan sa taas sir.... dahil mas critical ang circulation and access doon....imho lang naman....
agree ako sir boks... isang requirement sa mga thesis ngayon ang mga building innovations....
try to implement green architecture....
wind turbines
waterless urinals
rainwater/greywater systems (stp)
green roofing
photo catalysis
double glaze insulated glass...etc... hope makatulong
natural lighting and ventilation specially on t&b if possible.... para tipid
try mo unahin ung plan sa taas sir.... dahil mas critical ang circulation and access doon....imho lang naman....
bokkins wrote:
maganda din makaintroduce ka ng bago kasi simple lang na thesis pag highrise lang, everybody's doing highrise, what's new with your highrise should be the question you should be asking yourself. something that you can contribute to the building industry. mas bago mas magaling.
agree ako sir boks... isang requirement sa mga thesis ngayon ang mga building innovations....
try to implement green architecture....
wind turbines
waterless urinals
rainwater/greywater systems (stp)
green roofing
photo catalysis
double glaze insulated glass...etc... hope makatulong
xxdarcxx- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
add nlng ako siguro study mo yong possible location ng elevator mo at stair lalo n kapag high rise un kc ang importante lalo na in terms of egress, kapag ang plan mo rectangular or square possible location ng elevator at stair sa center un kasi ang core ng buliding mo sma muna din sa center ung pipe chase, electrical room, garbage chute dapat my garbage room ka din kung my residential ka at dpat din ung garbage chute nkatapat sa garbage bin sa baba at pressurization sa stair...gudlak...
OT. buti di urban pinagawa sa sau balita ko kc jan sa school ntin puro urban pinapgwa ngaun....
OT. buti di urban pinagawa sa sau balita ko kc jan sa school ntin puro urban pinapgwa ngaun....
manex- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
pre,add ko lng to...search k ng mga recent projects d2 sa middle east! especially here in dubai... aralin mo concept nila ng green architecture!!! sustainable development at xmpre ung new constructuion materials na ginagamit...Once na-apply mo to lahat sa thesis mo.UNO ka n jan panigurado!!! goodluck!!! can't wait to see your designs Sir!!!! peace
markuz23- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
last nlang.... fire and emergency exits.....hehe dapat mabilis silang makakalabas ng building kahit "high rise"...
xxdarcxx- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
manex wrote:add nlng ako siguro study mo yong possible location ng elevator mo at stair lalo n kapag high rise un kc ang importante lalo na in terms of egress, kapag ang plan mo rectangular or square possible location ng elevator at stair sa center un kasi ang core ng buliding mo sma muna din sa center ung pipe chase, electrical room, garbage chute dapat my garbage room ka din kung my residential ka at dpat din ung garbage chute nkatapat sa garbage bin sa baba at pressurization sa stair...gudlak...
OT. buti di urban pinagawa sa sau balita ko kc jan sa school ntin puro urban pinapgwa ngaun....
salamat pare...
yup isang 1 taon puro urban kasi Enp ang chairman ngayon sa skul...iniwasan ko ang urban kahit medjo nagtagal thesis ko...last plate ko kasi ito kaya ayoko nung di ko gusto...noted ito sir...TIP ka din pala
arki_vhin- CGP Dabarkads
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
markuz23 wrote:pre,add ko lng to...search k ng mga recent projects d2 sa middle east! especially here in dubai... aralin mo concept nila ng green architecture!!! sustainable development at xmpre ung new constructuion materials na ginagamit...Once na-apply mo to lahat sa thesis mo.UNO ka n jan panigurado!!! goodluck!!! can't wait to see your designs Sir!!!! peace
maraming salamat...di bale ipopost ko dito once na matapos ko sir,,,salamat...
arki_vhin- CGP Dabarkads
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xxdarcxx wrote:last nlang.... fire and emergency exits.....hehe dapat mabilis silang makakalabas ng building kahit "high rise"...
salamat...dre
arki_vhin- CGP Dabarkads
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
sir vhin thesis k n pla hehe gudlak sau sa dami n ngcomment im sure uno k jan hehe abangan ko ung ipopost mo n thesis mo hehe ! ngdrop by lng ako sa section n to at nkkuha agad ako ng mraming idea heheh! thx CGP!
benj.arki- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
arki_vhin wrote:manex wrote:add nlng ako siguro study mo yong possible location ng elevator mo at stair lalo n kapag high rise un kc ang importante lalo na in terms of egress, kapag ang plan mo rectangular or square possible location ng elevator at stair sa center un kasi ang core ng buliding mo sma muna din sa center ung pipe chase, electrical room, garbage chute dapat my garbage room ka din kung my residential ka at dpat din ung garbage chute nkatapat sa garbage bin sa baba at pressurization sa stair...gudlak...
OT. buti di urban pinagawa sa sau balita ko kc jan sa school ntin puro urban pinapgwa ngaun....
salamat pare...
yup isang 1 taon puro urban kasi Enp ang chairman ngayon sa skul...iniwasan ko ang urban kahit medjo nagtagal thesis ko...last plate ko kasi ito kaya ayoko nung di ko gusto...noted ito sir...TIP ka din pala
oo sir TIP din ako nkikita kita dti s TIP...ako yong ngthesis ng ''Running man concept'' yong hospital batch 2005 ako. gudlak sa thesis mo.
manex- CGP Apprentice
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
paghigh rise...vertical elements take in consideration agad,ano ano ba un?such elevator,exit,stairs,chute,pipings(electrical,mechanical)sheer wall(core),tapos nun integration of spaces(planning between spaces),tapos nun building envelope(curtain wall)...allocation ng area sa parking space,user,social economic impact,etc.
note:tip sa exit,mas ok ung fire exit na paglabas eh labas na ng building kaysa sa fire exit na nasa loob ng sheer wall...
note:tip sa exit,mas ok ung fire exit na paglabas eh labas na ng building kaysa sa fire exit na nasa loob ng sheer wall...
jenaro- Peter Pran
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
um hello? im doing the same project too. with a 5-storey podium. im having hard time with the parking slots. and ok lang ba na yung public stairs will serve as the fire exit as well? or separate pa? hope you can help me! thanks
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
add ko lang po kung sakaling maka tulong. if ever, consider mo din sa plan mo ang fire alarm and sprinkler system. alamin mo mga areas kung saan dapat lagyan nang mga smoke detectors, heat detectors, fire hose reel, and breeching inlet mo.
you might take into consideration din ang exhaust mo. kung mixed use ang building mo malamang may mga possible areas for restaurant and kitchens nang hotel or condominiums. maging conscious ka na lang sa mga location nang shafts and ducting mo para hindi masayang ang spaces mo.
pag aralan mo din ang service area since isa ito sa magiging busiest places nang building mo.
you might take into consideration din ang exhaust mo. kung mixed use ang building mo malamang may mga possible areas for restaurant and kitchens nang hotel or condominiums. maging conscious ka na lang sa mga location nang shafts and ducting mo para hindi masayang ang spaces mo.
pag aralan mo din ang service area since isa ito sa magiging busiest places nang building mo.
mariebambi- CGP Newbie
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
honey_the_great wrote:um hello? im doing the same project too. with a 5-storey podium. im having hard time with the parking slots. and ok lang ba na yung public stairs will serve as the fire exit as well? or separate pa? hope you can help me! thanks
hmmnn.. nice question..
Violation yan mam sa bldg code. dapat separate ang public & fire exit stair lalo na high rise ang pinaguusapan natin. Here are some reasons why?
-F.E. stair should have a pressurization chase pag high rise bldg ang pinaguusapan. What is pressurization chase? ito ay shaft opening all the way to the roof na katabi ng F.E. stair. Ito ay mechanically ventilated. Pag may sunog, automatic mag activate ang mechanical equipments at gagana ang mga exhaust fans nito (in every floors) para higupin just in case na magkaroon ng usok sa loob ng F.E. stair. Ito ay para di masuffocate ang mga tao sa loob ng FE stair during evacuation. Usally ang mechanical equipements nito ay nasa roof deck. (Just ask Mech Engrs. re this..specialty nila to).
-Doors for fire exit stairs are usually equipped with panic exit devices. Pag ordinary lang kasi na pinto mga common door knobs lang ang ikinakabit. Pero pag ang pinto ng fire exit dapat "panic device" ang nakakabit nito. Ito yong parang horizontal bars na nakakabit sa pinto. Pag idiniin mo ang horizontal bar, automatic mag unlock ito.
Hito ang pinaka importanteng malaman kung ano ang purpose ng "panic device":
- Mabubuksan mo lang ang pinto sa side kung saan nakakabit ang panic device. Pag nasa kabila ka ng pinto di mo ito mabubuksan. ito ay para ma-prevent na magkasalubong ang flow ng traffic pag may sunog. (Iisang direction lang dapat ang flow ng exit ng mga tao pag may sunog)
- Door swing ng fire exit door sa upper floors ay dapat patulak sa loob ng fire exit stair. The reason is: dahil nakakabit ang panic device sa labas ng pinto (ex. hallway area)... kaya pag itinulak ng mga tao ang panic device, dire-diretso papasok sa F.E. stair ang flow ng traffic pag may sunog. Take note: Once na nasa loob ka na ng F.E. stair di ka na pwede makalabas uli kasi di mo na mabubuksan ang F.E. door dahil nasa labas ang panic device.
-Door swing naman ng fire exit door pagdating sa ground floor ay dapat palabas. The reason is: Ang mga tao ay galing na sa upper floors.. so ang purpose ay lalabas na sila pagdating sa ground floor. Kaya ang panic device ay nakakabit sa pinto sa loob ng F.E. stair. Ito ay para maitulak ng mga tao ang panic device para makalabas. Take note: During normal condition, pag nasa ground floor ka (labas ng F.E. stair), di ka makakapasok para gamitin ang hagdan ng F.E. stair para umakyat. Dahil ang panic device ng fire exit door ay nasa loob mismo ng F.E. stair. Kaya ang F.E. stair ay di pwede gamitin as public stair.
Kaya lang sad to say, mostly sa pinas di natutupad ito. madaming F.E. stair ng mga high rise bldg sa atin na walang panic devices sa pinto. Ginagamitan lang ito ng mga ordinary door knobs. And the worst is...minsan nakakadena pa at ginagamitan ng padlock ang mga fire exit doors.
Pointers:
regarding your parking layout sa podium, i suggest unahin mo muna ang moduling ng columnation mo. Mas maganda kung ang clear width ng column to column mo ay not less than 5.0meters. Ang 5.0X5.0meters ng clear dimension ng column to column module ay makaka accomodate ka ng 2-parking slots (2.4mX5.0 for each parking slot). This is for conventional method of construction. But if you are using post-tensioning method, you can go even more than 10meters columnation module.
Of course kailangan mo rin iconsider kung saan ang location ng driveway/ramp mo at ang location ng elevator core. You should consider the minimum clear dimension of a two way drive for your columnation module (which is a 5.0meter module can not accomodate a two-way drive). Walls for elevator core/shaft can be done as a shear wall for structural purposes at mas maganda kung related din ito sa columnation mo para mas malinis ang structural layout.
I suggest, sa location ng elevator core/shafts mo dapat you should consider simultaneously yong layout ng TYPICAL FLOORS at TYPICAL PARKING mo. Ito ang dapat maunang i-consider. Well, sana di pa huli ang sagot ko sa tanong mo at sana makatulong din ito. I assumed, dahil mag february na malamang may layout ka na.
Sensya ka na rin dahil medyo napahaba yata sagot ko.
Good luck.
Ar_Can_EVSU- CGP Guru
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
if ever lang po mkatulong::
actually part ng thesis ko yan high rise wayback 2008..
thesis ko po is a Leisure Center, with four major components.. compact po to with extreme games center..
1. leisure center / mall
2. extreme game center
3. man-made surfing pool
4. bldg. grounds admin.
here's some questions / points n pwedeng ikasilat / or points n kelangan tlaga / or definitely points to consider:
*every floor should have service areas:
elevators
mechanical room
(consider machines of course)
electrical room
(consider electrical failure, much better if you have ATS)
*ATS - automatic transfer switch electrical system..
fire exit
(consider life safety plan)
pipe chase (malamang)
utility rooms for maintenance/housekeeping
(much better if there's also linen chute and garbage chute)
definitely stairs
at kung kelangan ramps for delivery purposes if you do hav commercial
areas at the ground..
users traffic flow should be prior to consider.
*ground floor area:
this should be unique from any other bldgs. here..
its up to you how to plan this thing..
one idea that come up with my design last time is to have a BMS, which
controls the whole building..
*BMS - bldg management system
this includes all the electrical / mechanical / sanitary controls to the
bldg. parang ganito lang : isang shutdown ng isang breaker, patay ang
ilaw ng isang buong floor.. un, un n un,, got d idea?
ganda purpose nito wen it comes to safety..
*tapos pare, to make ur defense para hindi maging mahirap;
try to make a design which is definitely unique, pioneer or tlagang wala
pa nkakaalam.. cgurado wala maitatanong sayo jury mo bout sa
components mo.. kasi kung di nila alam or ala cla bakground sa project
mo, definitely ang mga itatanong lang sayo ng mga un eh ung mga
general n tanong n kayang sagutin ng khit cnong arki.. hehe un lng un..
*anyway sana makatulong po.. kung my further questions willing po sagutin..
*CG-- m new here.. dis was my 1st post.. thanx d2 sa forum nato.. dame ko natutunan even for 5 days pa lang.. hehehe.. tnx tnx...
.x.
actually part ng thesis ko yan high rise wayback 2008..
thesis ko po is a Leisure Center, with four major components.. compact po to with extreme games center..
1. leisure center / mall
2. extreme game center
3. man-made surfing pool
4. bldg. grounds admin.
here's some questions / points n pwedeng ikasilat / or points n kelangan tlaga / or definitely points to consider:
*every floor should have service areas:
elevators
mechanical room
(consider machines of course)
electrical room
(consider electrical failure, much better if you have ATS)
*ATS - automatic transfer switch electrical system..
fire exit
(consider life safety plan)
pipe chase (malamang)
utility rooms for maintenance/housekeeping
(much better if there's also linen chute and garbage chute)
definitely stairs
at kung kelangan ramps for delivery purposes if you do hav commercial
areas at the ground..
users traffic flow should be prior to consider.
*ground floor area:
this should be unique from any other bldgs. here..
its up to you how to plan this thing..
one idea that come up with my design last time is to have a BMS, which
controls the whole building..
*BMS - bldg management system
this includes all the electrical / mechanical / sanitary controls to the
bldg. parang ganito lang : isang shutdown ng isang breaker, patay ang
ilaw ng isang buong floor.. un, un n un,, got d idea?
ganda purpose nito wen it comes to safety..
*tapos pare, to make ur defense para hindi maging mahirap;
try to make a design which is definitely unique, pioneer or tlagang wala
pa nkakaalam.. cgurado wala maitatanong sayo jury mo bout sa
components mo.. kasi kung di nila alam or ala cla bakground sa project
mo, definitely ang mga itatanong lang sayo ng mga un eh ung mga
general n tanong n kayang sagutin ng khit cnong arki.. hehe un lng un..
*anyway sana makatulong po.. kung my further questions willing po sagutin..
*CG-- m new here.. dis was my 1st post.. thanx d2 sa forum nato.. dame ko natutunan even for 5 days pa lang.. hehehe.. tnx tnx...
.x.
xemxanx- CGP Newbie
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yeah tama ung exits...hehe..BP 344 na din sir..hehehe
hahah tama ka din sir,,ung proposal ko nga eh drug rehabilitation center dito sa isabela,,tiyak di gaano alam ng mga jury ko yon.hehehe
hahah tama ka din sir,,ung proposal ko nga eh drug rehabilitation center dito sa isabela,,tiyak di gaano alam ng mga jury ko yon.hehehe
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Re: designing a High Rise Condo
national Building Code.
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