VERTICAL FARMING thesis need help

good day po cgpians.. my proposed thesis is a vertical farming project.. may na research na po ako about my thesis pero and di ko po mahanap ay ang mga details concerning the hydrophonics
technology.. yung anong mga materials, installation, flow, functions etc.. about sa technology na ito.. marami pong salamat in advance sa tulong.. God bless

Actually there are a lot of information out there about hydroponics system... specs are available in the internet, the only challenge in this type of proposal is how to make in effective in a feasible way with regards to our government, who will take part with the project? is it private or public? who are the beneficiaries?
As I have learned, local farmers are against these type of project... I think you must focus on these matter first before going to the details.
We all know that hydroponics is a very effective system for modern farming...

opinion lamang po ito, goodluck po

@ pipicosis
salamat po sir sa info. you have your point sir and i agree with it.. i must answer those questions before the true judges will ask me in deliberation time with the same questions.. but for now hydrophonics technology is my problem.. anyways.. i will double my effort in researching about this technology.. thanks..

@ pipicosis

pahabol po sir.. its about your argument "As I have learned, local farmers are against these type of project... "

IMHO.. i think with just a right mindset between the government, the farmers and the private sector this hydrophonics technology will benefit everyone in the field.. hehe.. i need to think and ponder a lot about this matter.. thanks anyway sir!!

Wow.. I did some digging on this technology and it will greatly help sustain our country's needs if executed properly. As with the issue with farmers and government.... Well... I agree na kelangan lang talaga ng dialogue between parties. I'm not even sure if you should be concerned about that in your thesis. What our country needs now are technological advances to agriculture. Yan kasi ang nakakalimutan ng gobyerno, develop nang develop ng kung ano ano, eh pakainin muna nila mga mamamayan di ba? In countries like Australia, they experience oversupply due to technologies like these. Keep it up.

As for the system querries mas maganda kung mag email ka directly sa suppliers and tech experts sa field na yan. Kulang yung babasahin mo lang sa web. Maganda yung may macontact ka na kahit isang supplier. Baka makapagbigay din sila ng insight sa design mo. Basta sabihin mo lang yung intentions mo nang klaro. Good lak pre, sana talaga maging successful yan. :-)

hydroponics certainly will help them, but I'am pertaining to the vertical farm, no doubt vertical farm will also help us in the community, but not the local farmers...
if proven malaki talaga ang potential ng vertical farm and most likely maging bench mark na ito ng farming, which will now drop the convential way of farming... farmers will only end up as helper or laborer if private ang may ari ng vertical farm...
pero kung makakapag formulate ka ng system wherein malaki ang benefit ng farmer sa development, why not... kargado mo din kasi ang sistema at proseso sa loob ng proposal mo...

siguro try to enlist muna yung mga advantages at disadvantages ng vertical farm...sa point of view ng farmers (or ng beneficiary mo)... just by then makikita mo yung sagot dito...

sana makatulong to, iniingatan ko na hindi directly masabi yung sagot sayo, para ma push ka na mag search pa, pero trust me, there is a viable answer for this... para sayo din to, hope you understand, goodluck!

nahumreigh wrote:Wow.. I did some digging on this technology and it will greatly help sustain our country's needs if executed properly. As with the issue with farmers and government.... Well... I agree na kelangan lang talaga ng dialogue between parties. I'm not even sure if you should be concerned about that in your thesis.

may point po ito, pero siguro depende sa school at jury, because these topics matters a lot in terms of your feasibility study, a good idea is not worth it if it is not applicable... pero anyways, may mga solusyon parin.

May hydroponics facility sa Los Banos. Sana mapasyalan nyo yun. Bato ang gamit nila para tumayo ang plants, riverstone yata, tapos napapaflow ng tubig sa pipe kung saan nakaplant ang mga gulay. Hindi ko lang sure kung every ilang oras. Hanapin nyo yun.

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Go Man! I do not think the project is vertical farming per se, 'di ba? And the site is in the urban area, i.e. an integral part of a high rise development?

Baka sakaling makatulong sa ' yo - http://www.verticalgardenpatrickblanc.com/#/en/home

We might commission this guy to do a vertical garden for one of our projects. Kapag natuloy, ido-document ko para malaman natin kung pano nila ginagawa.


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yup pioneer yan si patick blanc, kaso hindi ganyan ang vertical garden na dapat dito sa project. more on farming. si patrick is into beauty. lightweight ang gamit nya at mga stone at air surviving plans ang gamit, like mosses and ferns.

share ko lang ito may nagtanong kasing jury sa classmate ko noong nagthesis ako..vertical farm din yung thesis niya...ang sabi kasi niya na manggagaling daw sa vertical farm niya ang mga gulay sa kaniyang vicinity... ata ang tanong ng jury dun hindi daw ba lalong tataas ang presyo ng gulay na galing sa vertical farm kaysa sa conventional farming? kasi daw mukhang gagamit daw ng modern technology para lang sa pagpapalaki ng mga gulay na yun..at kung ang technology na yun ay kaya daw natin o kukunin pa sa ibang bansa? isa pa kapag high rise structure isa sa problema ay wind loads..pano daw kapag may bagyo?open ba yung windows o hindi? pano daw yung sun? hindi daw ba makakasama sa ibang halaman na hindi nakakatanggap ng araw ng maayos due to shades ng ibang part ng structure.. ayun lang sana makatulog

noted lahat ng sinabe nyo po mga sir.. i need more time to ponder and research about these matters before i give a reply.. limited lang kasi time ko..

anyways.. maraming salamat po..

pahabol..

im confused if in what particular building type(industrial, commercial etc.) ang proposal ko.. basta ang tentative major requirements ko po ay.. farm and commercial space sa ground floor.. bale.. pagka harvest ng crops diretso agad(after going through some process) sa market na located sa ground floor for selling..

(im open for correction).. salamat

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bokkins wrote:yup pioneer yan si patick blanc, kaso hindi ganyan ang vertical garden na dapat dito sa project. more on farming. si patrick is into beauty. lightweight ang gamit nya at mga stone at air surviving plans ang gamit, like mosses and ferns.

but we might learn something from his system regarding irrigation, et.al...

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donskiekong wrote:noted lahat ng sinabe nyo po mga sir.. i need more time to ponder and research about these matters before i give a reply.. limited lang kasi time ko..

anyways.. maraming salamat po..

pahabol..

im confused if in what particular building type(industrial, commercial etc.) ang proposal ko.. basta ang tentative major requirements ko po ay.. farm and commercial space sa ground floor.. bale.. pagka harvest ng crops diretso agad(after going through some process) sa market na located sa ground floor for selling..

(im open for correction).. salamat

medyo nalito ako.. hehehe. when you said vertical farming you meant multi-story building with farms in each floor?



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oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:.

bokkins wrote:yup pioneer yan si patick blanc, kaso hindi ganyan ang vertical garden na dapat dito sa project. more on farming. si patrick is into beauty. lightweight ang gamit nya at mga stone at air surviving plans ang gamit, like mosses and ferns.

but we might learn something from his system regarding irrigation, et.al...

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Meron nabebenta na hose with tiny droplet regulator. Yun ang irrigation system nya dito sa vertical garden nya bro. Saka hindi takaw sa tubig ang mga ferns at air plants. So magsurvive talaga.

Itong vertical farming, matakaw ito sa tubig, Kaya medyo iba ang system din, saka meron idea ng harvest. Malaking effect din iyon sa circulation ng farmers. So far, medyo magkaiba ang approach ng dalawang system, pwede silang mahati sa dalawang section under vertical garden at farming.

donskiekong wrote:farm and commercial space sa ground floor.. bale.. pagka harvest ng crops diretso agad(after going through some process) sa market na located sa ground floor for selling..(im open for correction).. salamat

Always consider the season at every kailan ang harvest. There will be times na walang produce dahil walang harvest, paano kikita ang market mo? Mga simple considerations lang pero malaki ang epekto sa overall performance.

bokkins wrote:

donskiekong wrote:farm and commercial space sa ground floor.. bale.. pagka harvest ng crops diretso agad(after going through some process) sa market na located sa ground floor for selling..(im open for correction).. salamat

Always consider the season at every kailan ang harvest. There will be times na walang produce dahil walang harvest, paano kikita ang market mo? Mga simple considerations lang pero malaki ang epekto sa overall performance.

TS - you will need to consider this during the planning stage - http://cuesa.org/page/seasonality-chart-vegetables (search for our local version)

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bokkins wrote:

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:.

bokkins wrote:yup pioneer yan si patick blanc, kaso hindi ganyan ang vertical garden na dapat dito sa project. more on farming. si patrick is into beauty. lightweight ang gamit nya at mga stone at air surviving plans ang gamit, like mosses and ferns.

but we might learn something from his system regarding irrigation, et.al...

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Meron nabebenta na hose with tiny droplet regulator. Yun ang irrigation system nya dito sa vertical garden nya bro. Saka hindi takaw sa tubig ang mga ferns at air plants. So magsurvive talaga.

Itong vertical farming, matakaw ito sa tubig, Kaya medyo iba ang system din, saka meron idea ng harvest. Malaking effect din iyon sa circulation ng farmers. So far, medyo magkaiba ang approach ng dalawang system, pwede silang mahati sa dalawang section under vertical garden at farming.

Thanks Bokkins. Pero sa tingin ko nalilito tayo sa Title. Hindi sya vertical as in planted on the wall, tama ba TS? I think it is a multi-story building with farms in each floor?


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oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:

bokkins wrote:

donskiekong wrote:farm and commercial space sa ground floor.. bale.. pagka harvest ng crops diretso agad(after going through some process) sa market na located sa ground floor for selling..(im open for correction).. salamat

Always consider the season at every kailan ang harvest. There will be times na walang produce dahil walang harvest, paano kikita ang market mo? Mga simple considerations lang pero malaki ang epekto sa overall performance.

TS - you will need to consider this during the planning stage - http://cuesa.org/page/seasonality-chart-vegetables (search for our local version)

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wow sir ganda nito sayang di ko to nakuha noong thesis ko....matago nga for future purposes

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oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:.


Pero sa tingin ko nalilito tayo sa Title. Hindi sya vertical as in planted on the wall, tama ba TS? I think it is a multi-story building with farms in each floor?

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tingin ko nga mam orange, hindi ito specifically vertical farm, kundi vertical housing na may farm sa baba? paki linaw po sana...
or yung market lamang ang nasa baba? tapos every floor may farm?

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bokkins wrote:

oRangE.n.GreeN wrote:.


Pero sa tingin ko nalilito tayo sa Title. Hindi sya vertical as in planted on the wall, tama ba TS? I think it is a multi-story building with farms in each floor?

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tingin ko nga mam orange, hindi ito specifically vertical farm, kundi vertical housing na may farm sa baba? paki linaw po sana...
or yung market lamang ang nasa baba? tapos every floor may farm?

I think it's the latter. at saka hindi ako "Mam" pre.



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Pasensya na po, may nabasa po kasi ako na post nyo na sbi nyo po don't call me sir,... pasensya na po

balik sa topic:
kung farm every floor critical dito ang amount of sunlight per day na makukuha ng plants, usually slanted or terraced ang pinaka efficient...pero may technology na called growlights using LED...

Kung makadaan ka sa UP College of architecture library, madaming ganitong thesis. You may use it as reference and further develop the technology. under ito sa hydroponics facitility.