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Post by wardiggler Sun Mar 04, 2012 1:35 pm

Hi, bago lang ako dito at pasensya na kung medyo matanong ako. Bubuo kasi ako ng pc na pang gamit sa 3d at 2d/video editing na rin. Medyo keep as low as possible ang budget ko. So, ang tanong ko lang ay kung anong specs at kung pwede specifically brand na available dito malapit sa Quezon City. Initially, siguro ang kailangan ko muna ay:

1. CPU - mid level lang. i7? Yung may 3.8ghz turbo boost.
2. mobo - dito ako walang ka alam alam. sa huling 2 pc ko intel brand lang ang kinukuha ko kasi mura. RAM slots lang ang nasa isip ko na kailangan ko - at least 4
3. RAM - wala pa yatang 8gb sticks. so, 4x4gb sticks. required ba na yung may heatsink at branded like corsair? yung gamit ko kasi ngayon 4x2gb mainit talaga shutdown pag tanghali at summer =)
4. Power Supply, Casing, CPU fan - dito ko kailangan ang recommendation. nasa hot side dito lalo na pag tanghali.

Yan siguro muna bibilhin ko initially. Gamitin ko muna yung hard drive at video card ko.

Wala pala akong balak pag overclock dahil wala akong experience at end of all pag nagkamali!

Thank you maraming salamat!
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Post by wardiggler Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:28 pm

i just made a quick research. i found out a newly released i7 3.6-3.8 compared to the old i7 with 3.4-3.8. the new one has 10mb cache, which i have no idea what meant, and no graphics integration. the old has an 8mb cache but with graphics integration.

what's graphics integration? would that help boost my video card or be set aside if i already have a one?

edit: after a bit more research, mukhang mahal ang motherboard ng socket 2100 ng bagong i7-3820 na nasa $400 range. nasa $100 lang yung most reviewed motherboard ng 1156 so malaking factor yun.


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Post by hotarubi Sun Mar 04, 2012 5:17 pm

I think yung graphic integration means built-in vram, magagamit mo siya kahit walang video card. pero ewan ko lang, tanong naten yung mga master hehe.
In terms of rendering walang tulong ang video card, pero kelangan siya for modeling kasi pag mahina video card mo laggy ang viewport at mahirapan ka mag manipulate ng scene objects.
built in lang video card ko kaya pag nasa million and up polys na ang lag na hehe.
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Post by broodwar1126 Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:54 pm

I think go for the core i7 2600K sir, with a socket 1155 and p67 chipset motherboard. since sigurado naman na kakailanganin mo ng video card for 3d modeling as per sir hotarubi mentioned above.
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Post by wardiggler Fri Mar 09, 2012 5:55 pm

hello,

after some reading, siguro 2600k na ako. anong tanong ko lang ay kung anong motherboard yung makakapag-overclock na hindi komplikado. yung 1 setting lang. kailangan ba may nakalagay na support for K-series? ok ba na brand yung Asrock?
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Post by renderbeads Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:15 pm

Asrock has garnered a good cost per performance among tech websites. I have my 2600k coupled with the P67 Extreme 6 and I am happy with it ever since.
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Post by wardiggler Sun Mar 11, 2012 5:44 pm

thanks, renderbeads. another question, is it easy to overclock with p67 extreme 6?

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Ok, next, ano ba dapat hanapin ko sa power supply at casing at cpu cooler? 24 hrs siguro at ang downtime ay render time. maraming salamat

sa ram, kailangan ba yung may heat sink? ang plano ko kasi at least 12gb dahil gagamitin din ng kuya ko pang editing. delikado ba pag walang heat sink at heavy user?
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Post by bokkins Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:37 pm

8gig ram ok na. you need a good cooling and power supply and a good video card din. ano pala ang existing videocard mo? baka hindi magmatch sa power ng i7 mo.
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Post by artp24 Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:50 pm

try mo mginvest in a good PSU i suggest kuha ka ng corsair..kahit hndi ung modular para mkasave kahit konti..CPU cooler try m thermaltake Frio OCK although mas magandang rin liquid cooling complicated nga lng dpat tama pgkakalagay m..mobo i used z68 v-pro mejo pricey nga lng..casing try thermaltake or aerocool depende sa budget m..
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Post by wardiggler Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:31 pm

thanks sa pag reply, bookins at artp24!

Ok, ito na yung na-gather kong specs. medyo extend na ng budget.

33650
14200 intel i7 2600k
4900 corsair vengeance 2x2x4gb (req. ng magbabayad max)
3000 casing
5250 Asrock Z68 Pro3-M Z68 VSL/Virtu/ISRT
3300 FSP Everest Series 80PLUS modular: FSP Everest 600w
3000 noctua dh n14 ( or thermaltake frio ock @ 3200 )

May nakasubok na ba ng noctua dh n14? Sobrang laki pero yun yung pinakamataas na review na nabasa ko na nasa range ng P3000.

Sa power supply, ok ba yung brand na FSP Everest? Yan kasi pinakamura na nakita ko sa pag search ko sa mga website. O mas ok na Corsair-price equivalent kahit hindi modular? Isa pang tanong, ok na ba yung 600w? Ang mga ilalagay ko na hindi nakalista ay 1 video card, 2x HDD, 1 WiFi card at sagad ko yung fan configuration ng casing.

@bokkins - Yung video card na gamit ko ngayon ay GT220. Magkaka-issue kaya yun sa setup na yan? Yoko pa kasi isabay sa pagbili kasi hindi panaman ako nagkaroon ng problema sa GT220. Hindi naman complex yung viewport ko pag 3d. Kadalasan proxy objects pag 3d at switch na lang pag render time. Pag sa 2d work naman, editing, painting, ok lang naman performance.

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Post by bokkins Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:25 pm

ok pa naman. pero mababang video card lang yan, meaning hindi mo makukuha ang full potential. siguro sa upgrade nalang.
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Post by oby20 Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:51 pm

i7 2700k (latest na sandy bridge)
Asus P8P67 mobo ( very good in auto overclock)
G.Skill Sniper 16gig / G.Skill Ripjaws 16gig
Asus GTX 550 video card
FSP everest 800watts (best in price performance ratio for an 800watts PS)
WD Caviar Black 1TB sata 3.0
Cooler Master Storm chasis (mid tower case but very wide, kasya ang anumang CPU cooler)
Coolermaster v6gt cpu cooler
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Post by wardiggler Sun Mar 18, 2012 6:11 pm

@bokkins - siguro nga may malaking bottleneck sa video card. may nakita ako na nasa range ng 4000php. malaki kaya difference nun?

@oby20 - thanks sa heads up at suggestions.

sa casing - ang nasa isip ko ngayon yung aerocool strike x-gt dahil sa number of fans. sa price check ko, mas mahal ang cooler master storm ng 1000php.

About sa motherboard, sa mga nabasa ko tungkol sa P67 at Z68 ay mas bago ang Z68 at lahat ng features ng P67 ay nasa Z68. May mga bagong features ang Z68 ang hindi ko magagamit (o lahat ng features) pero price lang ang dahilan para piliin ang P67. Ulit, wala akong alam at puro basa lang. May ma miss ba ako? Thanks.

Ok rin yun 2700k pero halos 2000k difference niya sa 2600k. Medyo kapos ako sa budget at malaki laki rin yun.

Sa power supply, maliit ba yung 600w na rate?

Thank you very much
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Post by artedesenyo Mon Mar 19, 2012 2:09 am

maliit yung 600w pag dual graphics card ka, pag 1000w naka abang ka na sa pag upgrade ng graphics card.
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Post by wardiggler Tue Mar 20, 2012 7:14 pm

Salamat sa lahat ng nag-suggest! Magsimula na ako mag ikot ikot!
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