Acoustic Partitions

To all experienced architects and practicing architects here in the forum...We are doing an office/commercial building...

tanong kulang po pano ma attain ang 59Db na requirement sa partitions.The client gave us this requirement na dapat yung ibang areas ay may 59Db na rating...My boss asked me to do the details,,,i got no idea...patulung naman po...

this will hp you out... if not sufficient, buzz me out

details:

http://www.euroform.co.uk/pdf/promonta/Promonta%2059%20Db%20Rw%20220mm.pdf

specification / properties:

http://www.promat-ap.com/partition_P100dstud_1layer.htm
http://www.brockhouse.net/500series/acousticdata/59db.pdf

components:

http://www.brockhouse.net/500series/acousticdata/59db.pdf

if wall requirements changes, more here:

http://www.brockhouse.net/500series/acousticdata.php

render master wrote:this will hp you out... if not sufficient, buzz me out

details:

http://www.euroform.co.uk/pdf/promonta/Promonta%2059%20Db%20Rw%20220mm.pdf

specification / properties:

http://www.promat-ap.com/partition_P100dstud_1layer.htm
http://www.brockhouse.net/500series/acousticdata/59db.pdf

components:

http://www.brockhouse.net/500series/acousticdata/59db.pdf

if wall requirements changes, more here:

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thank u render master for spending your time googling...actually I did that too...but I need personal advise (from experience)...some details maybe...thanks anyway!...

Actually kailangan mo ng acoustic expert kung kailangan ng computation. Parang sa college lang din yan, Yung surface ay may corresponding value ang material na gagamitin mo. To lower the decibel levels, you need to install absorptive materials like acoustic boards, screen with foam. Yung parang sa sinehan. Draperies will also do. Lalo na sa hotel at bahay. Sa sound rooms, kailangan yung nagdecipate ang sound. Kaya meron parang mga tinik sa walls na foam.

Anyway, Kung wala naman budget, I suggest na you go with wood slats tapos may gap then another wall. Lesser concrete walls. Use cushion furniture. Rugs if applicable. Acoustic ceiling system. Malaki ang menos sa sound reflection nyan. Best for call centers.

59dB according sa mga nakita ko sa google is like a normal talking sound. not very loud. Hindi din naman silence. Siguro avoid mo yung echoing. dyan papasok ang mga acoustic boards. If its a commercial space. I'm sure kailangan pasok sa budget, Acoustic ceiling and partitions lang ang kakayanin nyan. You wont need theater deisgners. Good luck!

Basta less concrete, steel, aluminum, even wood and glass.

More on fabric, cushions, draperies, carpet and acoustice boards and ceiling panel.

Yan ang nakikita kong solution.

Pwede mo din gamitan ng pvc windows and doors kung ang ingay ay galing sa labas. And foam-based wall kung ang ingay naman ay galing sa kabilang room.

thank you very much sir bokkins for your reply....actually kailangan kulang sir ay wall (dry wall partition)...acoustic rating will be 59Db...baka meron dito sa site na may experience sa ganito...gaano kaya thickness ng wall?etc...sample detail siguro would be a great help....thanks in advance sa mga tutulong!

Ah. Pwedeng dry-wall using gypsum/acoustic boards.

Boral ang tatak ng product.

cork board pwede rin (imho) maglagay ka na lang ng rugs sa floor o di kaya i-carpet mo na lang(kung may budget)

micoliver1226 wrote:cork board pwede rin (imho) maglagay ka na lang ng rugs sa floor o di kaya i-carpet mo na lang(kung may budget)

thanks micoliver for your input,,,but I am talking baout Partitions...

bokkins wrote:Boral ang tatak ng product.

parang marketing ang dating sir boks ah.. hehe!!



as for the acoustic wall... boral is one of the supplier.. free consultation naman silang lahat so madali mo lang magagawa ung requirement ng client nyo

madami sila irerecomend na system and procedures even thickness dami din choices... pipili ka nalang.. its a waste of time kung idedetail mo ung wall.. just specify lang sa drawing na acoustic wall yan.. the suppliers can provide all the details...


my tip is contact them, tapos sila na bahala magpresent sayo ng product nila...

simplykate wrote:

micoliver1226 wrote:cork board pwede rin (imho) maglagay ka na lang ng rugs sa floor o di kaya i-carpet mo na lang(kung may budget)

thanks micoliver for your input,,,but I am talking baout Partitions...

how about insulate the partition with insulation?

www.ambico.com
http://www.archiexpo.com/prod/nordwall-spa/removable-acoustic-wooden-partitions-59128-170638.html#





try mo to mam i hope na may makuha dito

yah, I reccomend also BORAL PRODUCTS... dati may project kami mutl-storey hotel mas mababa pa kunti jan yung requirements na decibel jan. usually yung supplier ang nag bibigay ng technical reports/sollution/recommendation of which product. depende sa laki ng project nagpapadala sila ng engineer specialized on acoustic.
di ko lang sure kung meron jan sa pinas specialized firm for acoustic testing.

just use gypsum boards with fiberglass insulation in between that boards or if may budget rockwool

Just for you to have an idea...For Rw 59 Db.....You can use 2 layers of plasterboard each side of studs,50mm acoustic insulation in the cavity...(but that is based on a certain product)....



Contact the Technical Advice and Support Dept. of your board manufactuter/supplier to give you an advice on the selection,performance and installation of the product...Ganyan ginagawa sa normal practice!....

@arki_norie

diba ban na sa pinas ang pag gamit ng fiber glass insulation kasi hindi maganda sa kalusugan.

thanks everyone for your help!

scorpion21 wrote:Just for you to have an idea...For Rw 59 Db.....You can use 2 layers of plasterboard each side of studs,50mm acoustic insulation in the cavity...(but that is based on a certain product)....



Contact the Technical Advice and Support Dept. of your board manufactuter/supplier to give you an advice on the selection,performance and installation of the product...Ganyan ginagawa sa normal practice!....

sir pweding makita yung sample detail?parang ganyan kasi yung system na sinabi ng client namin...thank u sir

Mukhang madali nalang ang detail nyan, maglagay ka ng studs sa gitna, tapos lagyan mo ng dalawang boards sa magkabilang side, tapos may insulating material sa loob bago mo isara ang dalawang side.

Kung sa drawing, that's 2 lines for each board, and 2 lines for the stud, tapos may parang wave hatch to represent the insulation.

simplykate wrote:

scorpion21 wrote:Just for you to have an idea...For Rw 59 Db.....You can use 2 layers of plasterboard each side of studs,50mm acoustic insulation in the cavity...(but that is based on a certain product)....



Contact the Technical Advice and Support Dept. of your board manufactuter/supplier to give you an advice on the selection,performance and installation of the product...Ganyan ginagawa sa normal practice!....

sir pweding makita yung sample detail?parang ganyan kasi yung system na sinabi ng client namin...thank u sir

Details as per your request.Just ignore the plywood (support for wall mounted fittings/equipment)



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hehehe lumabas to sa 2009 board exam ah? nice! ganito yung mga gusto ni alli ayaw nya sa concrete

jaked wrote:@arki_norie

diba ban na sa pinas ang pag gamit ng fiber glass insulation kasi hindi maganda sa kalusugan.

hindi naman ban siguro kasi yun nga ginagamit namin sa site dati eh last year lang

scorpion21 wrote:

simplykate wrote:

scorpion21 wrote:Just for you to have an idea...For Rw 59 Db.....You can use 2 layers of plasterboard each side of studs,50mm acoustic insulation in the cavity...(but that is based on a certain product)....



Contact the Technical Advice and Support Dept. of your board manufactuter/supplier to give you an advice on the selection,performance and installation of the product...Ganyan ginagawa sa normal practice!....

sir pweding makita yung sample detail?parang ganyan kasi yung system na sinabi ng client namin...thank u sir

Details as per your request.Just ignore the plywood (support for wall mounted fittings/equipment)







OT:Thanks to all who voted for Matt...he made it to the top 12 (official results)...God bless you guys!Thank You!

thank you sir for your help!that is exactly what we need!...Sir my boss asked me kung pwedi ka naming ma contact for further consultation regarding the system...he is willing to compensate you for the info!thank u!