Living Area (My Second Post Prctice in Max}

I would like to share my latestt practice in 3ds max 2010 C & C is highly appreciated for my improvement, please drop your comments here TIA.

WF: Cad 2011 + 3Ds Max 2010+ Vray +PS CS5

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thanks a lot CGP

Powerful workflow..............

aesonck wrote:
Powerful workflow..............

thanks for dropping by sir aesonck

bakit po malabo yung images sir? na-focus tuloy ako sa windows wallpaper. hehe.
color burning din sa mga lights at sa walls.
malaki pa mai-improve nito sir.

xtianatix wrote:bakit po malabo yung images sir? na-focus tuloy ako sa windows wallpaper. hehe.
color burning din sa mga lights at sa walls.
malaki pa mai-improve nito sir.

salamat sa pag silip sir nagtaka nga ako bakit malabo ang image for the window hindi ko pa nakuha akong papano maging clear glassnaging mirror yata, cguro na over exposed ko sa ps tinitwink ko kasi sa ps, noted po sir for right now im cathing any idea noted po lahat sir thanks ulit

update lang po mga mnaster
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second option


please drop by your comments for my improvements Tia.

sir pakicheck nalang ulit yung settings..napansin ko kasi parang may kulang..

mapa-light or night mood sya.. di ko parin makita yung blending...

don't use too much pattern on the floor...masakit sa mata

mas maganda siguro kung simpleng pattern nalang..then lagyan mo na rin ng reflection...


try mo lang sya for sure maganda ang output..

blockz wrote:sir pakicheck nalang ulit yung settings..napansin ko kasi parang may kulang..

mapa-light or night mood sya.. di ko parin makita yung blending...

don't use too much pattern on the floor...masakit sa mata

mas maganda siguro kung simpleng pattern nalang..then lagyan mo na rin ng reflection...


try mo lang sya for sure maganda ang output..

salamat sa pag silip sir noted po lahat yan sir thanks ulit

Pa-comment sir..
--When modelling try not to cut corners (huwag ka mag shortcut) especially now in your early stages. Try to adapt a meticulous workflow with regards to modelling malaking part din kasi yan with achieving realism sa renders. Case in point: pinatong lang natin ang door sa wall? Kase hindi siya flush sa wall eh. Kaunting tyaga sir magbubunga naman yan in the future..
--With rendering try to get the final feel or look sa 3dsMax (or kung ano ginagamit mo) pa lang mismo. Don't half-bake your render & try to make "habol" sa PS. Post processing is there just to enhance, parang aid lang kung baga.. This is why blurry ang images mo; malabsa ang pagkakaluto sa Max.. Lutuin na ng mabuti kahit medyo matagal, masarap na kagad yan pagkaalis sa kalan at pagkasalang sa Prontoshop dun mo na lang lagyan kaunting toyo, chili sauce, at kalamansi..

Keep it up..

cloud20 wrote:Pa-comment sir..
--When modelling try not to cut corners (huwag ka mag shortcut) especially now in your early stages. Try to adapt a meticulous workflow with regards to modelling malaking part din kasi yan with achieving realism sa renders. Case in point: pinatong lang natin ang door sa wall? Kase hindi siya flush sa wall eh. Kaunting tyaga sir magbubunga naman yan in the future..
--With rendering try to get the final feel or look sa 3dsMax (or kung ano ginagamit mo) pa lang mismo. Don't half-bake your render & try to make "habol" sa PS. Post processing is there just to enhance, parang aid lang kung baga.. This is why blurry ang images mo; malabsa ang pagkakaluto sa Max.. Lutuin na ng mabuti kahit medyo matagal, masarap na kagad yan pagkaalis sa kalan at pagkasalang sa Prontoshop dun mo na lang lagyan kaunting toyo, chili sauce, at kalamansi..

Keep it up..

salamat at napadaan ka master cloud Im trying to get it more realistic
but it might not happened i dont know why, maybe on my setting or on my pc specs, you right sir about modeling
i did not concentrate on it nung nasa isip akala ko ok na pero dami pa palang sablay pag butihan ko po sa susunod sir luto in ko muna ng maayos bago ihain pra masarap ang tipla , mag 0ne month pa lang ako nag hands on sa max at self study lang po, sir malaking tulong po to sa akin ang payu mo sir,

cloud20 wrote:Pa-comment sir..
--When modelling try not to cut corners (huwag ka mag shortcut) especially now in your early stages. Try to adapt a meticulous workflow with regards to modelling malaking part din kasi yan with achieving realism sa renders. Case in point: pinatong lang natin ang door sa wall? Kase hindi siya flush sa wall eh. Kaunting tyaga sir magbubunga naman yan in the future..
--With rendering try to get the final feel or look sa 3dsMax (or kung ano ginagamit mo) pa lang mismo. Don't half-bake your render & try to make "habol" sa PS. Post processing is there just to enhance, parang aid lang kung baga.. This is why blurry ang images mo; malabsa ang pagkakaluto sa Max.. Lutuin na ng mabuti kahit medyo matagal, masarap na kagad yan pagkaalis sa kalan at pagkasalang sa Prontoshop dun mo na lang lagyan kaunting toyo, chili sauce, at kalamansi..

Keep it up..

>> napangiti po ako rito sir cloud 'bout sa comparison ninyo sa rendering at paluluto. straight forward but very true with regards in achieving fine works of art. now i'm learning. salamat po.

@johnolive>>> suggest lang po ako ha... there are times before na na fru-frustrate din ako sa output ng trabaho ko. but i guess, minsan hindi mo sya talaga makukuha ng isang baksakan lang. i mean, i have to learn it bit by bit ( a bit of detailed modelling, a bit of material testings, render settings.. and so forth). kung baga, beta testing muna lahat. then after you have more or less comprehend na yung theory and the testings... try to put it all together to work in harmony, say in a simple project. in that way, you really are setting a goal na makuha mo ang tamang timpla, ika nga ni sir cloud. there are countless ways to learn this. i'm also in the process. hope you'll find yours. cheers & keep it up!

comment nasabi na add ko lang save mo image mo as png huwag Jpeg kasi blurry pag jpeg. keep practicing huwag kang mawalan ng pagasa.

aluagi wrote:

cloud20 wrote:Pa-comment sir..
--When modelling try not to cut corners (huwag ka mag shortcut) especially now in your early stages. Try to adapt a meticulous workflow with regards to modelling malaking part din kasi yan with achieving realism sa renders. Case in point: pinatong lang natin ang door sa wall? Kase hindi siya flush sa wall eh. Kaunting tyaga sir magbubunga naman yan in the future..
--With rendering try to get the final feel or look sa 3dsMax (or kung ano ginagamit mo) pa lang mismo. Don't half-bake your render & try to make "habol" sa PS. Post processing is there just to enhance, parang aid lang kung baga.. This is why blurry ang images mo; malabsa ang pagkakaluto sa Max.. Lutuin na ng mabuti kahit medyo matagal, masarap na kagad yan pagkaalis sa kalan at pagkasalang sa Prontoshop dun mo na lang lagyan kaunting toyo, chili sauce, at kalamansi..

Keep it up..

>> napangiti po ako rito sir cloud 'bout sa comparison ninyo sa rendering at paluluto. straight forward but very true with regards in achieving fine works of art. now i'm learning. salamat po.

@johnolive>>> suggest lang po ako ha... there are times before na na fru-frustrate din ako sa output ng trabaho ko. but i guess, minsan hindi mo sya talaga makukuha ng isang baksakan lang. i mean, i have to learn it bit by bit ( a bit of detailed modelling, a bit of material testings, render settings.. and so forth). kung baga, beta testing muna lahat. then after you have more or less comprehend na yung theory and the testings... try to put it all together to work in harmony, say in a simple project. in that way, you really are setting a goal na makuha mo ang tamang timpla, ika nga ni sir cloud. there are countless ways to learn this. i'm also in the process. hope you'll find yours. cheers & keep it up!

Salamat sa pag silip sir, noted po lahat to I have to learn bit by bit to enchance my capability,

Neil Joshua Rosario wrote:comment nasabi na add ko lang save mo image mo as png huwag Jpeg kasi blurry pag jpeg. keep practicing huwag kang mawalan ng pagasa.

Salamat sa pag silip sir Neil noted po.

With regards to Jpegs & PNGs, I'll have to disagree with sir Neil. Kahit Jpeg pa yan basta mataas ang resolution mo at maganda ang settings ng render hindi magiging blurry yan. Ang advantage lang ng PNG is "lossless" format siya, meaning kahit ilang beses mong i-open hindi magdedegrade ang quality ng image mo unlike jpegs where overtime you lose the quality. This is as per rendering is concerned, ibang usapan na pag web images or for printed words & such mas okay prefer ng iba ang png.

Just to set it straight.

Thanks nga pala sir Aluagi sana po nakakatulong..

cloud20 wrote:With regards to Jpegs & PNGs, I'll have to disagree with sir Neil. Kahit Jpeg pa yan basta mataas ang resolution mo at maganda ang settings ng render hindi magiging blurry yan. Ang advantage lang ng PNG is "lossless" format siya, meaning kahit ilang beses mong i-open hindi magdedegrade ang quality ng image mo unlike jpegs where overtime you lose the quality. This is as per rendering is concerned, ibang usapan na pag web images or for printed words & such mas okay prefer ng iba ang png.

Just to set it straight.

Thanks nga pala sir Aluagi sana po nakakatulong..

thanks again master cloud, yes every rendered that i have i save it to Png format and after photoshop retouching saka na ako mag Jpg. great help sir cloud as a beginner i learned much here,
matanong lang po ano cause ng pagka blury ng image sa resolution ba o sa settings, o sa camera settings, ilang resolution po ba mas maganda pag mag final render na kasi gamit ko nito 480x640 lang.

@John, parehong importante yan, settings at output resolution. Sobrang baba pala. Usually pang test render lang ang ganyang set. Ideally sana not less than 1000x ang output, mas maganda kung matataasan mo pa depende na rin sa makina mo. Pwede mo bang ipost ang render settings mo sir?..

Would you please post the max file if that is OK with you. I'd like to give pointers but it will be a lot easier to tinker with the max file and see where we could fix it.

Remember to never mix hi res/low res bitmaps as textures or even renderings. This is a give away to the believability of your scene.

Also, always and I mean always, highlight where your illumination comes from, is it from the natural lighting from the window openings or is it from the artificial lighting from the ceiling or both...

Test render your lighting using a global gray or white material first so you can see the effect your light positionings, if it looks OK, any color or mapped material in that light setup will definitely look good.

Screens like TVs or computer montiors act like light sources, so anything within its range will look brighter or illuminated - you seem to have missed that as well kaya it looks plastered in PS.

cloud20 wrote:@John, parehong importante yan, settings at output resolution. Sobrang baba pala. Usually pang test render lang ang ganyang set. Ideally sana not less than 1000x ang output, mas maganda kung matataasan mo pa depende na rin sa makina mo. Pwede mo bang ipost ang render settings mo sir?..

Great helps master cloud pang test render lang pala yung output na gamit ko, ok master i will try it tommorow to post my setting, pinutol na kasi Net connection namin sa office, kaya pagdating ko na sa bahay maka open ng net,

v_wrangler wrote:Would you please post the max file if that is OK with you. I'd like to give pointers but it will be a lot easier to tinker with the max file and see where we could fix it.

Remember to never mix hi res/low res bitmaps as textures or even renderings. This is a give away to the believability of your scene.

Also, always and I mean always, highlight where your illumination comes from, is it from the natural lighting from the window openings or is it from the artificial lighting from the ceiling or both...

Test render your lighting using a global gray or white material first so you can see the effect your light positionings, if it looks OK, any color or mapped material in that light setup will definitely look good.

Screens like TVs or computer montiors act like light sources, so anything within its range will look brighter or illuminated - you seem to have missed that as well kaya it looks plastered in PS.

Thanks for Dropping by Master V Wrangler I will try to post my settings here tomorrow sir so that anyone else could figure out what i need to do with my settings, I'm quite learning step by step but whats on my mind is What the output that i have I feel happy and contented at first with it, never thinking that theres a lot error, mostly modeling, composition, lighting, mapping, texture, thanks a lot for all the information you shared for me sir.

in addition, you might as well check and set your monitor rgb's for proper color adjustments(my simple thought)

micoliver1226 wrote:in addition, you might as well check and set your monitor rgb's for proper color adjustments(my simple thought)

Thanks for dropping by Sir micoliver noted po sir.

Mga masters ito po yung settings ko pag pasensyahan nyo na ang image kasi Cellphone lang gamit ko.







at ito po yung latest render ko with this setting pa comment na lang po kung ano po kailangan kong e adjust nito TIA.









Please drop by your comments and suggestion for my improvement TIA mga masters

mga masters ito na po yung settings ko sana ma bigyan nyo ako ng guide kong saan ang kailangan kong i adjust ko sa settings na ito salamat po in Advance.

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