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Post by nomeradona Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:40 pm

kapag architectural design. ewan ku kung bakit tung architect/urban planner na to nasa isip ko. im really impress with her urban innovation. but i must say a lot of people disagree with her.

http://www.zaha-hadid.com/
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Post by bokkins Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:58 pm

Iconic kasi sya gumawa bro, kaya ganun ganun nalng ang pagtingin ng mga tao. pro sa ngayon hindi ko pa rin matatanggap na magaling sya na architect or role model ko. haha. pro yung friend ko, patay na patay dito. di ko alam bakit. No to zaha, yes to tadao ando at santiago calatrava ako. Very Happy
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Post by nomeradona Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:22 pm

hindi naman ako patay sa kanya. pero very controversial sya talaga. she won a lot of prizes and this her recent one. Vilnius.

http://www.bdonline.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=725&storycode=3110936&c=1&encCode=00000000014a2f12

Tadao ando, ang arkitekto na sya mismo ang sumasama sa mga stone worker to see the quality of stones he wanted. hay naku napaka mitikuloso sa detalye. pero grabe talaga yung simplicity ng desing nya 10/10 ak sa kanya.
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Post by nomeradona Tue Dec 23, 2008 6:52 pm

Some images of Zaha Hadid's winning entry for the Vilnius Gugghenheim

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Post by dickie_ilagan Tue Dec 23, 2008 7:03 pm

ganda ng design dre
parang aero scanner ang style
nice posting
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Post by arkiedmund Wed Dec 24, 2008 9:48 am

wow..very nice...

I think i saw a book of zaha hadid's works at the office.

Same with tadao ando's works, meron din dun...silipin ko pag magka freetime next year.
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Post by artedesenyo Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:30 pm

ibang klase tong si hadid kaya idol ko to parang alien ang design nito futuristic....

matindi ang deconstructivism nito.

imo isa to sa pinaka magaling na arkitektong nabubuhay pa.
sunod na si norman foster, kishu kurukawa,
jacques fresco - isa pa tong futurist, para sa kanya para daw maging civilize ang tao dapat i demolish ang monetary system, para sa kanya para umunlad ang tao dapat tangalin ang pera. sangayon naman ako dito.
bago pa mag karon ng zaha hadid me jacques fresco na. malupit din to sa interior. parang ginagaya to ni hadid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt8HkCWW2Yk
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Post by artedesenyo Wed Dec 24, 2008 11:38 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHhddNPNzts&feature=related

ito pa.
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Post by xxdarcxx Fri Dec 26, 2008 2:35 am

imho lahat naman po tayo kaya magdesign ng ganito... sa structural lang nagkakatalo... siguro mas nahirapan yung mga engineers sa mga design nya... hehe

dami kasi estudyante ngayon na nagco2ncentrate lang sa design and aesthetics pero di naman nila alam kung sustainable yung mga designs nila... ang hirap kasi kung basta ka na lang design ng design tapos imposible palang tumayo at ang mahal pa ng building cost...

nakakapagtaka lang para sakin kung pano naitatayo tong mga structures na ganito.. estudyante pa lang rin kasi ako eh....
kaya siguro nakakamangha tong mga ganitong designs para sakin....hehe

mga masters anong method ba ginamit dito???
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Post by nomeradona Fri Dec 26, 2008 5:35 am

actually marming engineers ang naging hadlang sa maramin concpet dahil sa paniniwalang hindi pwedeng itayo. they always use this fearing hindi nga maitayo. but look how many buildings has been created and built because the architects and visionaries, did not gave up in COMMANDING the engineers to look and go beyond the edge... go to Dubai alone and you will see alot of these innovations. so dont give up in pushing your concept, kahit minsan parang imposible pa to... innovations comes because of excellent ideas. therefore i do disagree in saying sa structural magkakatalo. IDeas, design concepts, creativity and innovations.... remember they are very important factors that changes the existing norms.... kaya nga tayo nag aral ng architecture di ba... pero kapag may thesis nga ang kinatatakutan ng mga estudyante ay magtanong mga juries ng structural... sabihin mo nalang dapat magjury sila sa mga engineers.

so bro wag kang magtaka kung paanu gawin ang structural na ganun.. thats their job. hehehehehe, kung gusto mung pagaraln yun mag structural engineer kanarin after graduating from architecture. pero sa labas, sila yung masaya kung bibigyan o irekomenda mo sila ng trabaho in asking for structural design.
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Post by i3dness Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:04 pm

I agree with the opinion of Nomes na walang imposible lalo na yung when it comes to structural.

Kung magaling? magaling talaga itong iraqis na babae... sa tingin ko destine talaga sya para maging isang sikat na arkitecta. So far nasa company namin ang Professor nya dati, malupit din mag conceptualize ng design, kaso hindi sumikat dahil very conservative pa dati yung era nila sa pagdedesign. matanda na ang professor nyang iraqis din nasa 70a anos na ang edad pero kung gumuhit parang bente anyos palang.
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Post by Guest Fri Dec 26, 2008 9:56 pm

yup i agree zaha hadid is a good architect pero para sa akin naman mas magaling ang architect kung ang ginagawa nyang structure ay nagagawa nyang mag blend-in sa environment na pagtatayuan... kaya FLW pa rin ako hehehe

and i always believe that architects are there to give more meaning and usage of spaces wether it is created or natural, meaning walang masasayang na spaces. sabi nga ng mga naging instructor ko and mentors... every drop of ink we put on a paper should have meanings. dapat andun sya not because of pampaganda lang. lalo na kung sobrang mahal ng magiging cost just because of aesthetics. architects are there to make buildings that will "appreciate" people and not people "appreciate" buildings. opinyon lang naman po yan thumbsup

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Post by artedesenyo Sat Dec 27, 2008 4:16 am

i3dness wrote:I agree with the opinion of Nomes na walang imposible lalo na yung when it comes to structural.

Kung magaling? magaling talaga itong iraqis na babae... sa tingin ko destine talaga sya para maging isang sikat na arkitecta. So far nasa company namin ang Professor nya dati, malupit din mag conceptualize ng design, kaso hindi sumikat dahil very conservative pa dati yung era nila sa pagdedesign. matanda na ang professor nyang iraqis din nasa 70a anos na ang edad pero kung gumuhit parang bente anyos palang.

pwede malaman name ng company nyo?
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Post by nomeradona Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:52 pm

nakukuha ba sa name ng company yung opinion sa architecture bro?
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Post by artedesenyo Sun Dec 28, 2008 1:22 am

hindi bro

wala sa name ng company yun, natanong ko lang.
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Post by bokkins Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:25 am

Ok tong discussion na to ah. share ko lang tong naisip ko na possible construction method na gagamitin nila dito. basic idea lang. pro Im sure meron pa tong mga special effects. abangan nalang natin. Smile

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Post by nomeradona Sun Dec 28, 2008 6:32 am

hahahha chicken wire model then paper mache.. ayus na analogy bokks ha.
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Post by bokkins Sun Dec 28, 2008 7:00 am

hahaha, oo bro, paboritong material ko un pang organic modeling dati. same concept talaga, may cross bracing lang sa real life para matriangulate for extra strength. Very Happy
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Post by celes Sun Dec 28, 2008 11:56 pm

zaha hadid makes very eccentric and radical designs, that's why i like her style. forward thinker kasi so mejo under appreciated pa, but surely a few years down the road they will realize her true genius. most of her designs weren't really built, pero her drawings (even plans and elevations) were at one point auctioned as art pieces.

her style is reminiscent of libeskind's, pero mas daring ang approach ni zaha.
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Post by xxdarcxx Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:46 am

nomeradona wrote:actually marming engineers ang naging hadlang sa maramin concpet dahil sa paniniwalang hindi pwedeng itayo. they always use this fearing hindi nga maitayo. but look how many buildings has been created and built because the architects and visionaries, did not gave up in COMMANDING the engineers to look and go beyond the edge... go to Dubai alone and you will see alot of these innovations. so dont give up in pushing your concept, kahit minsan parang imposible pa to... innovations comes because of excellent ideas. therefore i do disagree in saying sa structural magkakatalo. IDeas, design concepts, creativity and innovations.... remember they are very important factors that changes the existing norms.... kaya nga tayo nag aral ng architecture di ba... pero kapag may thesis nga ang kinatatakutan ng mga estudyante ay magtanong mga juries ng structural... sabihin mo nalang dapat magjury sila sa mga engineers.

so bro wag kang magtaka kung paanu gawin ang structural na ganun.. thats their job. hehehehehe, kung gusto mung pagaraln yun mag structural engineer kanarin after graduating from architecture. pero sa labas, sila yung masaya kung bibigyan o irekomenda mo sila ng trabaho in asking for structural design.

salamat po sir at naliwanagan ako... actually ganyan rin po yung mga styles na pnapractice ko nung first year pa lang ako kaso laging kinokontra ng mga professors namin.... at lagi mababa naku2ha kong grade... hindi po kasi sila open sa mga designs na innovative at ka2iba.... salamat po at nalaman ko na ngayon na hindi kailangang limitahan ang pagiisip ng mga ka2iba at bagong ideas.... hindi na rin ako mata2kot na magdesign ng mga structures na tulad ng kay zaha,foster,herzog+demureon,atkins,gehry,etc...... hehe
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Post by cloud20 Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:19 am

one thing i like doing is pushing the envelope when it comes to designing, as far possible as i can; taking into consideration the client's wishes too... if i come up with a design the structural engineer better come up with a way to build my design... otherwise he's not worth the paper hung on his wall signifying him as a professional...
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Post by xxdarcxx Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:38 am

cloud20 wrote:one thing i like doing is pushing the envelope when it comes to designing, as far possible as i can; taking into consideration the client's wishes too... if i come up with a design the structural engineer better come up with a way to build my design... otherwise he's not worth the paper hung on his wall signifying him as a professional...

thanks master cloud.... ang bagsik mo.....
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Post by nomeradona Tue Dec 30, 2008 5:59 am

xxdarcxx, sometimes talaga teachers are the one who kill creativity inside the classroom. this is always i say to the design teachers.
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Post by xxdarcxx Thu Jan 01, 2009 8:26 pm

thanks master nomer for bringing up this kind of discussion...
kaya nga gusto ko lagi tumatambay dito... marami ako natu2tunan....

in conclusion, i can say that an architect must have a GOOD relationship with an engineer in other to make his designs come to life...

and in the aspect of architecture,
a good designer is the one who can think of new, creative, unique ideas in every design problems he encounter
but...
a better designer is the one who can think of new, creative, unique ideas without sacrificing function, cost, and aesthetics........ hehe...tnks
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Post by blas diaz Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:25 am

teachers dont really kill creativity. in my opinion they just want you to think right first before you create radical sh*t.
lalong lalo na pag student ka palang, its like you feel that your professors are limiting your potential pero actually, they're making you realize your potential.
ung mga mgagaling na architect, hindi naman din nila sinasabi na magaling sila eh, its the critics and the professionals, their own peers, who notice that they have something other people don't have.
deconstructivism to me is "controlled chaos", and that IS very hard to do.
its just sad to conclude that we can all create like the master architects because in reality we can't. what we can create however is what's inside of us.

ps. im no fan of ms.hadid
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