R.A. 9266

Republic Act No. 9266
March 17, 2004

AN ACT PROVIDING FOR A MORE RESPONSIVE AND COMPREHENSIVE REGULATION FOR THE REGISTRATION, LICENSING AND PRACTICE OF ARCHITECTURE, REPEALING FOR THE PURPOSE REPUBLIC ACT NO. 545, AS AMENDED, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS "AN ACT TO REGULATE THE PRACTICE OF ARCHITECTURE IN THE PHILIPPINES," AND FOR OTHER PURPOSES.

Link Below

http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2004/ra_9266_2004.html

meron na pa lang thread na ganito. ito mga hinahanap ko. salamat sir bokks ! pati ba mga ibang practice ipopost dito sir bokks?

wow... salamat sir bokks...

The Professional Regulatory Board of Architecture (PRBoA)
URL/ website: www.architectureboard.ph
_____________________________________________________________________________
PUBLIC NOTICE
as of 12 October 2009
by Electronic Re-Publication
(reposted 30 September 2010 at the PRBoA website)
TO: ALL National Government Agencies (NSAs) and their infrastructure staff, LGUs and their Acting Building Officials Building Officials and Civil Engineers (CEs) who insist on signing and sealing ARCHITECTURAL Plans and Documents (despite the clear provisions under several valid and subsisting laws), Planning/ Design Consultants, Contractors/ Constructors, Developers and Building/ Project Owners, Etc.
_______________________________________________________________________
The Philippine Institute of Civil Engineers (PICE) has published DPWH Memorandum Circular No. 2 signed by DPWH Secretary Hermogenes E. Ebdane, Jr., dated 16 September 2009 and directing all building officials "to process and issue the necessary permits and certificates to all applicants/owners notwithstanding whether the designs/plans and/or other pertinent documents xxx are prepared, signed or sealed by either a registered architect and/or civil engineer" until there is a final and executory decision in the xxx case;
________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Before deciding and attempting to comply with the said 2009 DPWH directive, ALL Public Officials are advised (and warned anew) by the PRBoA to seriously consider the following:
1) R.A. No. 9266 (The Architecture Act of 2004) is a LAW that fully reflects State Policy!
R.A. No. 9266 LIMITS to registered and licensed architects (RLAs) the professional PRIVILEGE of preparing, signing and sealing Architectural Documents.
The 2008 and 2009 DPWH Orders now relied upon by the PICE and its Members (supposedly allowing Civil Engineers/ CEs to sign and seal Architectural documents or the "A" sheets of building plans) are mere Executive Issuances and are therefore NOT LAWS i.e. NOT State Policy. Due to their inferior status, executive issuances CANNOT supersede the dictates of State Policies such as R.A. No. 9266. PUBLIC NOTICE page 2 of 6
2) As apparently certified thrice (3x) by two (2) agencies of the National Government (including the National Printing Office that publishes the Official Gazette), the authentic text of Sec. 302 of the 1977 National Building Code of the Philippines (P.D. No. 1096 i.e. another Law) NEVER stated that CEs can prepare, sign or seal Architectural Documents.
3) The CE law R.A. No. 544 of 1950, as amended by R.A. No. 1582 of 1956 apparently does NOT state that CEs can prepare, sign or seal Architectural Document NOR does it state that CEs are also privileged to practice the separate State-regulated profession of Architecture.
To date (more than 60 years later), the said law still apparently lacks a codified set of implementing rules and regulations (IRR).
The CEs are NOT academically nor sub-professionally (apprentice-level) trained to practice Architecture. The CEs have also NOT been tested by the State for their capability to satisfactorily understand architectural concepts and processes, much less undertake architectural services. Their curriculum and licensure examination syllabi/ table of specifications do NOT include the Architectural planning and design of buildings for human habitation or the preparation of Architectural Documents.

sir archi_ram thanks for sharing this very informative and relevant issue...more power to uap and ra 9266

under Article 5

Section 24. The practice of civil engineering is a professional service, admission to which must be
determined upon individual, personal qualifications. Hence, no firm, partnership, corporation or association may
be registered or licensed as such for the practice of civil engineering: Provided, however, That persons properly
registered and licensed as civil engineers may, among themselves or with a person or persons properly
registered and licensed as architects, form, and obtain registration of, a firm, partnership or association using
the term “Engineers” or “Engineers and Architects,” but, nobody shall be a member or partner of such firm,
partnership or association unless he is duly licensed civil engineer or architect, and the members who are civil
engineers shall only render work and services proper for a civil engineer, as defined in this Act, and the
members who are architects shall also only render work and services proper for an architect, as defined in the
law regulating the practice of architecture; individual members of such firms, partnership or association shall be
responsible for their own respective acts.

the CE's doesn't even know their own law, but they still say that they can do the same. tsk

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Ito po dapat gamitin natin na book pagdating sa building code. Sa UAP headquarters lang to mabibili, sa 53 Scout Rallos St., Quezon City.

Handbook on
R.A 9266
The Architecture Act of 2004
and
P.D 1096
National Building Code
of the Philippines

Contents:
-Republic Act. No. 9514
-Revised Fire Code of the Philippines of 2008
-2004 Revise Implementing Rules and Regulation Of P.D. No. 1096
-New Schedule of fees and other Charges
-2004 Implementing Rule and Regulations R.A No.9266
and Frequently-Asked Questions
-Professional Regulatory Board of Architecture-Resolutions & Directives


Noted:
Don't use the book "The national Building Code of the Philippines by Vicente Foz".i'm comparing the book of Vicente Foz and the book by the DPWH and UAP. Kasi kulang and narevised yung kay Vicente Foz.
Pls. Correct me if im wrong.

.. naalala ko lang nung nagkwentuhan kami ng ex-UAP president..... nagkita kita kita daw sila sa korte kasama yung mga board of civil engineering kasama yung mga bigatin na civil engineers bale 5 daw sila... so dumating itong si ex-UAP president mag isa lang sya..at nagkaharap harap sila sa labas.. SABI DAW SA KANYA " wala daw kasi pera ang mga arkitekto at ang dali dali lang naman daw mga gingawa natin, drawing lang daw".. sabi naman ng ex-UAP pres.. Professional Practice ang pinag-uusapan dito..etc..
at dumating sa time na hinamon at sinabi ng ex-uap pres. na mag sama sama silang limang engineers vs maghahanap din siya ng kasama nyang arkitekto ,ang gagawin ay GENERAL HOSPITAL at kukuha sila ng mga JURORS para malaman kung sino ang makakuha ng projects..

sabi ng mga engineers " bakit naman kami gagawa nyan eh may mga TAGA DRAFTING NAMAN KAMI AT TAGA-GAWA NG GANYAN,..

sabi nalang ni architect... PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE ang pinag uusapan dito kayo mismo ang gumawa at kami lang din ang gagawa..
( un napikon ang mga civil engineers ,,,)

theomatheus wrote: .. naalala ko lang nung nagkwentuhan kami ng ex-UAP president..... nagkita kita kita daw sila sa korte kasama yung mga board of civil engineering kasama yung mga bigatin na civil engineers bale 5 daw sila... so dumating itong si ex-UAP president mag isa lang sya..at nagkaharap harap sila sa labas.. SABI DAW SA KANYA " wala daw kasi pera ang mga arkitekto at ang dali dali lang naman daw mga gingawa natin, drawing lang daw".. sabi naman ng ex-UAP pres.. Professional Practice ang pinag-uusapan dito..etc..
at dumating sa time na hinamon at sinabi ng ex-uap pres. na mag sama sama silang limang engineers vs maghahanap din siya ng kasama nyang arkitekto ,ang gagawin ay GENERAL HOSPITAL at kukuha sila ng mga JURORS para malaman kung sino ang makakuha ng projects..

sabi ng mga engineers " bakit naman kami gagawa nyan eh may mga TAGA DRAFTING NAMAN KAMI AT TAGA-GAWA NG GANYAN,..

sabi nalang ni architect... PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE ang pinag uusapan dito kayo mismo ang gumawa at kami lang din ang gagawa..
( un napikon ang mga civil engineers ,,,)

ganyan naman talaga taktika ng mga CE manggagamit ng mga draftsman, at saka ano alam nila sa space planning? dito nga sa trabaho ko at mga kasama kong arkitekto minsan tinatawanan na lang namin sila at minsan nakakapikon din, may nangyari nga ganito.. pinadesign sa isang architect namin yung training center and auditorium so ayun dinesign with details and specs pero syempre without the structural tapos biglang pina-structural analysis sa isang matibay na CE (daw) di raw pwede yung binigay na dimension ng columns nya so pinabago pero di nakuntento di rin daw pwede pwede yung span ng roofing na 10m ayon daw sa computation nya na 2 pages ang gusto nya may column daw sa gitna (patay! tsk!) so nagreklamo architect namin na di pwede yun pero dumating din sa terms na ayun nga walang column sa gitna, dumating yung time na natapos yung architectural documents para ipasa sa gobernador nagtaka yung CE bat wala daw pangalan nya sa title block eh pambihirang patis architectural documents yun makikisawsaw sya so away nanaman yung architect tapos yung CE tapos nahantong sa ibinigay yung plano at ready for construction pero ang di alam ng architect sinulot ng CE yung plano at ang daming binago kasi para ipamukha sa gobernador na gawa nya yun pero ang nangyari nung matapos ang construction pumalpak dahil hindi sinunod yung specs lalo acoustics ang nangyari plywood lahat ng dingding at tiles ang flooring kaya pag tapak mo sa loob ang lakas ng echo at yung echo nya mga more than 3 secs kaya ayun pinatawag hehehe

andy32 wrote:

theomatheus wrote: .. naalala ko lang nung nagkwentuhan kami ng ex-UAP president..... nagkita kita kita daw sila sa korte kasama yung mga board of civil engineering kasama yung mga bigatin na civil engineers bale 5 daw sila... so dumating itong si ex-UAP president mag isa lang sya..at nagkaharap harap sila sa labas.. SABI DAW SA KANYA " wala daw kasi pera ang mga arkitekto at ang dali dali lang naman daw mga gingawa natin, drawing lang daw".. sabi naman ng ex-UAP pres.. Professional Practice ang pinag-uusapan dito..etc..
at dumating sa time na hinamon at sinabi ng ex-uap pres. na mag sama sama silang limang engineers vs maghahanap din siya ng kasama nyang arkitekto ,ang gagawin ay GENERAL HOSPITAL at kukuha sila ng mga JURORS para malaman kung sino ang makakuha ng projects..

sabi ng mga engineers " bakit naman kami gagawa nyan eh may mga TAGA DRAFTING NAMAN KAMI AT TAGA-GAWA NG GANYAN,..

sabi nalang ni architect... PROFESSIONAL PRACTICE ang pinag uusapan dito kayo mismo ang gumawa at kami lang din ang gagawa..
( un napikon ang mga civil engineers ,,,)

ganyan naman talaga taktika ng mga CE manggagamit ng mga draftsman, at saka ano alam nila sa space planning? dito nga sa trabaho ko at mga kasama kong arkitekto minsan tinatawanan na lang namin sila at minsan nakakapikon din, may nangyari nga ganito.. pinadesign sa isang architect namin yung training center and auditorium so ayun dinesign with details and specs pero syempre without the structural tapos biglang pina-structural analysis sa isang matibay na CE (daw) di raw pwede yung binigay na dimension ng columns nya so pinabago pero di nakuntento di rin daw pwede pwede yung span ng roofing na 10m ayon daw sa computation nya na 2 pages ang gusto nya may column daw sa gitna (patay! tsk!) so nagreklamo architect namin na di pwede yun pero dumating din sa terms na ayun nga walang column sa gitna, dumating yung time na natapos yung architectural documents para ipasa sa gobernador nagtaka yung CE bat wala daw pangalan nya sa title block eh pambihirang patis architectural documents yun makikisawsaw sya so away nanaman yung architect tapos yung CE tapos nahantong sa ibinigay yung plano at ready for construction pero ang di alam ng architect sinulot ng CE yung plano at ang daming binago kasi para ipamukha sa gobernador na gawa nya yun pero ang nangyari nung matapos ang construction pumalpak dahil hindi sinunod yung specs lalo acoustics ang nangyari plywood lahat ng dingding at tiles ang flooring kaya pag tapak mo sa loob ang lakas ng echo at yung echo nya mga more than 3 secs kaya ayun pinatawag hehehe

very provoking yata itong thread na ito,ingat lang baka may masagasahan..

meron at meron talaga pero that's the reality, we have our own law now that limits the signing and sealing of architectural documents and mostly limits the practice of architecture to architecture graduates with supervision of a Registered Licensed Architect, this now our own cup of coffee and not the cup of coffee that anyone can dip in.. we should defend our law because our profession is at stake here.. they should learn to practice their own profession not practice the profession of others.

WALANG MAGKALABAN NA PROPESYON KUNG SUMUSUNOD TAYO SA BATAS.

i got you sir..but my point is.. understimating person's profession or ability is totally provoking sir,alam ko may mga CE na members din yata dito

ask ko lang micoliver1226.. arki ka ba? i don't know if you analyze the situation based on our story.. Professional Practice. the law itself is very provoking to them because the profession CE is mentioned and reality is they still don't want to accept the reality that the law exists.

arki man ako sir or arko..engr or gingineer o kahit sino ako..what i want to clarify or point out na marami rin member dito na nasasaktan sa mga nasabi ninyo "quote ninyo ito"ganyan naman talaga taktika ng mga CE manggagamit ng mga draftsman, at saka ano alam nila sa space planning?...hwag nyong lahatin..yun lang ang concern ko sir..kaya nga sabi ko sir provoking e..i hope nakuha nyo na ang ibig kong sabihin..yung mga pratice or law na yan madali lang naman na ipatupad kung mahigpit lang ang city hall tungkol dito at di tinotolerate ng mga building officials na dapat sana kay pedro ay kay pedro ..kay juan ay kay juan..i rest my case no further comment na po ako..

nakuha ko ibig mo sabihin pero you really don't know the real world huh? paano sila masasaktan eh yun nga yung ikabubuhay nila and that's the truth, kaya nga ginawa yung batas para lamang sa mga arkitekto pero pumipirma pa rin sila ng mga architectural documents at sino ang source nila para makagawa ng design syempre draftsman na arki grad at talagang wala talaga silang alam when it comes to space planning dahil wala naman sa curriculum nila at hindi nila major ang design at pagdrawing, ako mismo government employee din nasa kampo ng engineering, kahit mga kasama kong architect di rin matiis makita na ganon ang nangyayari at wala magawa dahil nasa engineering office nga kami at hindi lang sa opisina namin pati private construction firms na ang may ari CE, at kahit mahigpit man ang city hall o hindi wala pa rin sila magagawa dahil hindi pa binago ng DPWH ang building permit, hindi pa sila nagrelease ng permit para sa architectural documents.. yan din giit ng mga CE kung bakit kaya pa nila pumirma dahil ang nandoon is "Architect/Engineer" at dapat i-revise din ang PD 1096. sino sa tingin mo ang mas agrabyado na propesyon? that's the fact.

what mico is trying to say is, huwag mong lahatin ang mga civil engineers, may mga naka trabaho na akong civil engineers na hindi katulad ng sinasabi mo, so yung alam mo na "real world" is not the real world talaga, i know what you feel right now kasi your are witnessing it first hand, some owners kasi iniisip nila is "mas mahal ang bayad kapag sa atin pinagawa" so pinapagawa nila sa mga engineers, pero mali sila dun, at marami na kaming naging clients na nagsisi sa huli, so "kung walang magpapaloko, walang manloloko"

here is my question, kung hindi mo matiis, why not resign from your work then tumingin ka ng iba, it for your own good din, kesa naman araw araw ka nagtitiis,

whey09 wrote:what mico is trying to say is, huwag mong lahatin ang mga civil engineers, may mga naka trabaho na akong civil engineers na hindi katulad ng sinasabi mo, so yung alam mo na "real world" is not the real world talaga, i know what you feel right now kasi your are witnessing it first hand, some owners kasi iniisip nila is "mas mahal ang bayad kapag sa atin pinagawa" so pinapagawa nila sa mga engineers, pero mali sila dun, at marami na kaming naging clients na nagsisi sa huli, so "kung walang magpapaloko, walang manloloko"

here is my question, kung hindi mo matiis, why not resign from your work then tumingin ka ng iba, it for your own good din, kesa naman araw araw ka nagtitiis,

matagal ko ng ginawa yan dahil first of all hindi aasenso ang practice peo yun nga utos ng nakakataas it's a privilege naman na nangyari yun, proper enforcement ng law natin sana ang manaig gaya nga sinabi ko "WALANG MAGKALABAN NA PROPESYON KUNG LAHAT SUMUSUNOD SA BATAS"

"WALANG MAGKALABAN NA PROPESYON KUNG LAHAT SUMUSUNOD SA BATAS"

---ayusin muna ang "batas" kase as of now hindi "batas" yan; "butas" yan...

tama naman si sir whey09. pero yung ibang CE naman natuto nalang sila sa mga architekto... yung bago ngang pasa na CE hindi pa masyadong marunong magbasa ng plano kailngan pang turuan.kaya yung mga iba sa construction management nalang sila nag po focus..kay pag tumagal magaling na sila..marami talagang magagaling na CE at bilib ako sa kanila pero hindi sa profession ng mga architects..sobrang dami na kasi ang mga CE sa pinas nasa 100thou + na sila yan ang dahilan kaya isa rin yan sa dahilan kung bakit gusto nilang pumirma ng architectural documents kasi mababawasan na yung kita nila..

sobrang OT..
may namatay sa ganito yung barkada ng friend ko binaril sya ng engineer.
ang dahilan nagpagawa yung mayaman na client 2 storey residence...4th year student architecture vs civil engineer may edad na yung civil engineer..ang problema nagustuhan ng client yung gawa ng student.. nainsulto yung engineer piling nya sa kanya mapupunta yung project dahil nga bata pa yung kalaban nya ..at dahil nakuha ng student yung project inisip ng CE na sinulot lng ng isang pipitsuging student..yun niresbakan...patay yung barkada ng friend ko tsktsk....

Ika'y isang CE na naligaw sa forum ng Arki....

Engr. Dumagan wrote:Ika'y isang CE na naligaw sa forum ng Arki....

CGPINOY is for all, so don't afraid to take part on the discussion.. opinion matters. Welcome to the forum

render master wrote:

Engr. Dumagan wrote:Ika'y isang CE na naligaw sa forum ng Arki....

CGPINOY is for all, so don't afraid to take part on the discussion.. opinion matters. Welcome to the forum

what matters most, a healthy discussion....

Neil Joshua Rosario wrote:

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Ito po dapat gamitin natin na book pagdating sa building code. Sa UAP headquarters lang to mabibili, sa 53 Scout Rallos St., Quezon City.

Handbook on
R.A 9266
The Architecture Act of 2004
and
P.D 1096
National Building Code
of the Philippines

Contents:
-Republic Act. No. 9514
-Revised Fire Code of the Philippines of 2008
-2004 Revise Implementing Rules and Regulation Of P.D. No. 1096
-New Schedule of fees and other Charges
-2004 Implementing Rule and Regulations R.A No.9266
and Frequently-Asked Questions
-Professional Regulatory Board of Architecture-Resolutions & Directives


Noted:
Don't use the book "The national Building Code of the Philippines by Vicente Foz".i'm comparing the book of Vicente Foz and the book by the DPWH and UAP. Kasi kulang and narevised yung kay Vicente Foz.
Pls. Correct me if im wrong.

magkano sir ang ganito?