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Post by akoy Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:48 am

mga sir patulong din ito po kuwento ng apply po ako sa agency na good status sa poea ok na po ako sa employer, a few weeeks waiting for the contract tinawagan ako ng employer na lumipat sa ibang agency dahil sa malaki daw yung hinihingi ng agency na placement kasi buong sahod ko kinukuhang placement yun ang sabi nya, ngayon lilipat ako sa ibang agency kasi 40% lang hinihinging placement fee, pero nung tinignan ko sa poea yung agency ang status "cancelled" kaya tinext ko employer, tumawag naman agad inexplain na ok lang daw yun baka di lang nakabayad or something explain niya din na may 5 pa ngang people ang nakapunta na last week dun dahil mabilis daw yung agency na yun and siguro daw malakas kapit nila sa loob kahit cancelled sila nakaka padala pa din sila ng tao!
ang tanong ok lang po ba ipagpatuloy kahit cancelled ang status ng agency na bago?
ano po ba puwede kong gawin?

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Post by edosayla Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:43 am

if i were you i won't risk for it .. walang sisihin nyan sa huli kundi ikaw kasi alam mo na na cancel na sila tapos tutuloy mo pa better find some agency na matatag.. hope naka help.
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Post by kurdaps! Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:47 am

Kung sa UAE ka pupunta Sir, may advice huwag na dumaan sa agency. Punta ka na lang as Tourist Visa and look for an employer to hire you and gives you an Employment Visa. It's 90% of our kababayans are doing here and that's a fact.

As soon as you have your Employment Visa, you may start working na. But some are taking a risk nagtatrabaho pa din while waiting their Visa to be processed which is illegal.
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Post by v_wrangler Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:02 am

unang una, take my advice with a grain of salt.

As an employer myself although hindi ako naghihire ng agency. The law states that any foreign employer should pay the agency. One month salary of the candidate is the usual going rate. That's how the business works.

If your employer isn't willing to pay by what the law prescribes, how on earth will you be so sure that the same employer will pay you the same amount as prescribed by the law or the contract?

While the decision is yours, that is something to think about.

No offense meant kay Kurdaps, but I will not for one suggest going abroad without a sure employer. It might be the norm but it is not always the safest.

Kung ayaw mong mag-agency, there are many ways to find an employer that would hire you directly.



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Post by kurdaps! Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:12 am

v_wrangler wrote:

No offense meant kay Kurdaps, but I will not for one suggest going abroad without a sure employer. It might be the norm but it is not always the safest.

Kung ayaw mong mag-agency, there are many ways to find an employer that would hire you directly.




I agree with you Sir VW, this is a sad fate happening in UAE right now. You could be fortunate to see Employer today that will hire you directly. Siguro sa time ko pa, 8 years ago maraming Employer ang ginagawa ito but now with our Profession madalang or baka nga wala na. They will never gamble their time, effort and expenses hiring directly from Pinas. They know the lonnnnnng process when going out as hired. It happens pa when the employees came at di nila nagustuhan by his/her attitude, they don't have option but to let him/her go and look for someone else and that's a loss na.

To the TS, its your last call pa din. What we are saying here are advices, facts and the real situation being an employee and Sir VW as employer himself.

Good luck.
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Post by torvicz Mon Aug 02, 2010 6:25 am

I'll give you two things:

1.) If you have doubts, don't go.

2.) If you don't take the risk, you'll go nowhere!

Now, it's your call.
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Post by brodger Mon Aug 02, 2010 7:38 am

Bro..kung nasa Pinas ka pa lang eh tinitipid ka na eh..nasa iyo na lang yan..lalo na pag nasa abroad ka na..wala ka nang kalaban-laban..kahit may kontrata na di pa rin sinusunod minsan..in fairness sa akin eh okay naman..nabawasan lang sahod dahil sa recession.Dami pa naman ibang company bro..Goodluck!
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Post by akoy Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:10 am

wow kaka enlighten mga masters
medyo tiwala kasi ako mga masters kasi my kasamang pinoy, bale executive assistant niya yung pinoy na kinocontact ko sa saudi!
bale di pala nasusunod yung contract mga master?
bale napag usapan namen ng employer na arabo and pinoy eto mga master:
1. $1000 na sahod
2. free lahat house,food,transpo(bibigyan ako daw car)
3.may libre daw laptop, cellphone, and software na kailangan
4. free air ticket
5. every 2yrs ang bakasyon
eto lang pangit mga master kayangan daw kaya ko work 12hrs. walang pay yung o.t. pero depende daw di naman overtime daw palage
tapos flexible di lang daw yun pag dradrawing gawa ko mag susupervice daw ako din project. tapos assure ko daw magtatagal ako saka nila kasi expected nila 5yrs.
tempting yung offer mga sir kaya ng ok ako
may possiblity po ba di ibigay pala mga ito?
hirap din pala mag decide hehehe!
mga sir puwede ko ba sabihin yung company name?baka na encounter nyo na kasi??
eto po company nila hungry bunny restaurant
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Post by akoy Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:30 am

mga sir tawagan ko bukas yung pinoy na ea niya tatanong ko kung puwede sa unang agency na lang ako kung puwede kasi dun talagang 1month na sahod ang placement and good standing yung status nila!
what you think mga master tawagan ko pa ba o hanap na iba? hehehe
yung ea pala mga sir siya na daw din architect and engineer ng company!matipid po sila sa tao and feeling ko ako lang kinuha, e 6 yung slot na pinost nila!!
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Post by kurdaps! Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:30 pm

doubtful ako sa free car, kung meron man di ka rin makapagmaneho kasi need mo pa kumuha ng drivers license sa KSA. Dagdagan ko bukas sagot hirap magtype sa mobile.
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Post by torvicz Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:53 pm

Palagay ko ibibigay naman lahat yang sinabi sayo dude.
No doubt, kasi yung car gagamitin mo sa pagpunta ng site, (service mo yun, not necessarily yours). Yung laptop syempre para mag revise ng plano sa site na rin, yung cell para matawagan ka ng boss mo anytime.

Madali rin lang kumuha ng lisenysa sa Saudi, kasi yung pamangkin kong walang experience sa driving napakabilis nakakuha ng lisensya eh.

Ang asahan mo lang talaga dude, eh yung 12 hours na trabaho.
Yan malamang talaga yan. Kaya nga binigyan ka lahat ng nabanggit ko sa taas kasi kayod marino ka talaga nyan.

Alam mo, kung puro tayo takot, wala tayong mararating sa buhay.

Sa akin lang, walang madali sa pag a-abroad dude. Lahat yan may sakripisyo. Wag mong iisipin na masarap sa abroad. Mas marami dito ang sakripisyo, although meron ding masarap, yung sweldo! Kaya nga nag abroad tayo eh.

Nung nagpunta kami ng Dubai, wala kaming kaalam alam sa sasapitin namin dito. As in wala talaga, pero nandun pa rin yung pag asa na magiging maayos kami dito. Sa unang mga araw, napakahirap! Nagulat ako sa sitwasyon..ang inaakala kong Dubai ay di pala ganun (nung unang dating namin)....lumipas ang ilang linggo, buwan.....Maayos naman pala...Ang oportunidad minsan lang dumarating satin. Kung palarin, magpasalamat. Kung hindi, magpasalamat parin. Atleast, nalaman mo mismo sa sarili mo at di lang sa sinabi ni ganito at ni ganyan. Walang tamang timing sa pag abroad, lahat yan nasa gabay ng Diyos. Kung makikita nyang nagsisikap ka, igagabay ka nya sa tamang daan. Napatunayan na namin yan ng ilang beses. Sa dami ng hirap namin dito nung unang mga linggo namin. Halos gusto na namin umuwi kinabukasan sa Pinas....haaaaayyyy hirap lang ikwento dito mahaba eh...hehehe.

Gaya ng nasabi ko sa taas. It's your call.
Walang dapat magsabi sayo kung anu ang gagawin mo.

Kung baga, "I-try mo para malaman mo!..."

Ang mga Pinoy kasi abroad iba iba ang experience eh. So, pwedeng masabi ko sayo Ok, pwedeng sabihin ni ganito hindi. Case to case din talaga.

Pano? mas gumulo ba? hehe
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Post by akoy Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:02 pm

@torvicz hehe kuwento ng buhay sir thanks sa tips
pero sir kung ikaw nasa kalagayan ko, ano desisyon mo?
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Post by zdesign Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:09 pm

dalawang klase ang abroad tol... kung papalarin ka or di ka papalarain.
-pwede nga sabihin nakakatakot kasi saudi pa yan di...kung di mo rin kasi subukan di mo malalaman e,parang trial and error din yan e meron dyan walang kwenta ang employer nung unang impression pa lang pero nung actual na trabaho na pati facilities okey naman...meron namang employer na puro pangako pagdating andyan na wala lahat,mas madami ang ganayang employer...kung ako sayo try mo lang kasi wala nga mangyayari sayo kung puro takot at pangamba nasa isip mo think positive dapat...12 hours talaga dyan sa saudi grabe no parang kalabaw ka pero maadjust mo rin yan bakit ba dami natin kababayan dun kung pangit dun bakit nagtitiis sila yon ang tanung...goodluck na lang.
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Post by Mang Gorio Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:41 am

atsaka kapag ang agency is kumukuha ng placement sayo for sure pagdating mo sabansa na aplyan mo pahihirapan ka kasi agency palang sample n ng hindi magandang gawain db.advice lang naman.maghanap k yung agency na walang gastos dami dyan may free medical ka nga he
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Post by kurdaps! Tue Aug 03, 2010 1:34 am

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Post by ARIST Tue Aug 03, 2010 5:35 am

Lakay, kung hindi ka naman nagmamadali, try mo pa mag apply sa iba kung hindi ka sigurado. Try to make an account sa Workabroad, kumpletuhin mo lang, pati mga samples of work, at agency at mga employers ang kokontak mismo sayo. Goodluck! Very Happy
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Post by akoy Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:41 am

zdesign wrote:dalawang klase ang abroad tol... kung papalarin ka or di ka papalarain.
-pwede nga sabihin nakakatakot kasi saudi pa yan di...kung di mo rin kasi subukan di mo malalaman e,parang trial and error din yan e meron dyan walang kwenta ang employer nung unang impression pa lang pero nung actual na trabaho na pati facilities okey naman...meron namang employer na puro pangako pagdating andyan na wala lahat,mas madami ang ganayang employer...kung ako sayo try mo lang kasi wala nga mangyayari sayo kung puro takot at pangamba nasa isip mo think positive dapat...12 hours talaga dyan sa saudi grabe no parang kalabaw ka pero maadjust mo rin yan bakit ba dami natin kababayan dun kung pangit dun bakit nagtitiis sila yon ang tanung...goodluck na lang.
kayod lang sir hehehe grabe 12 pala talaga thanks sir 2thumbsup
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Post by akoy Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:42 am

ARIST wrote:Lakay, kung hindi ka naman nagmamadali, try mo pa mag apply sa iba kung hindi ka sigurado. Try to make an account sa Workabroad, kumpletuhin mo lang, pati mga samples of work, at agency at mga employers ang kokontak mismo sayo. Goodluck! Very Happy
sir nakagawa na ko 3years na hehehe di naman ng mamadali pero sayang yung age ko hehehe 2thumbsup
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Post by ortzak Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:53 am

^^
Bro di sayang age mo..36 na ako nag abroad dala ng alam mo na..Tourist Visa sa UAE pero sure employer..nakita lang and website ko tapos tumawag....nag tawaran ayun after almost 2 years masaya naman output...almost nabayaran ko haus ko at tsikot..no regrets..

take the risk.. Twisted Evil
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Post by akoy Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:09 am

ortzak wrote:^^
Bro di sayang age mo..36 na ako nag abroad dala ng alam mo na..Tourist Visa sa UAE pero sure employer..nakita lang and website ko tapos tumawag....nag tawaran ayun after almost 2 years masaya naman output...almost nabayaran ko haus ko at tsikot..no regrets..

take the risk.. Twisted Evil
want to go sir pero wag na sa sinsabi ko hehehe hanap muna ako ngayon ulit thanks master 2thumbsup
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Post by ortzak Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:38 am

akoy wrote:
ortzak wrote:^^
Bro di sayang age mo..36 na ako nag abroad dala ng alam mo na..Tourist Visa sa UAE pero sure employer..nakita lang and website ko tapos tumawag....nag tawaran ayun after almost 2 years masaya naman output...almost nabayaran ko haus ko at tsikot..no regrets..

take the risk.. Twisted Evil
want to go sir pero wag na sa sinsabi ko hehehe hanap muna ako ngayon ulit thanks master 2thumbsup

Goodluck sir!! Imho dun ka na sa siguradong agency!
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Post by akoy Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:03 am

ortzak wrote:
akoy wrote:
ortzak wrote:^^
Bro di sayang age mo..36 na ako nag abroad dala ng alam mo na..Tourist Visa sa UAE pero sure employer..nakita lang and website ko tapos tumawag....nag tawaran ayun after almost 2 years masaya naman output...almost nabayaran ko haus ko at tsikot..no regrets..

take the risk.. Twisted Evil
want to go sir pero wag na sa sinsabi ko hehehe hanap muna ako ngayon ulit thanks master 2thumbsup

Goodluck sir!! Imho dun ka na sa siguradong agency!
thanks ng marami may natutunan na naman ako master hehehe
try to improve pa sa mga kinahihiligan ko para mas malaki chance na makuha, di lang puro assasins creed 2 buti natapos ko na hehehe
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