Ang kinabukasan ng Pilipinas sa mata ng mga taga CGP

Tanong ko lang kung ano ang view ninyo sa topic na ito. Karamihan kasi ng mga naka-kwentuhan ko ay negative ang tingin nila sa future ng Pilipinas. Lahat nagsasabi na wala na raw pag-asa. It's a bit frightening lalo na kung ito ang future where we will be spending the rest of our lives. I know that artists see the world in a different light and since they can visualize some things that do not exist yet, maybe they can see also what's in store for the future!

Meron din akong nabasang mga ganitong survey na ginagawa ng SWS at ng Pulse Asia but these are only outlooks within a year. Something like if the coming year would be better or worse. Meron din akong nababasang similar surveys sa North America na kino-conduct ng Pew Research.

Actually medyo dim nga nakikita ko sa future ng Pinas, tapos kung titignan natin Thailand and Korea na naiiinggit sa atin noon surpassed na tayo. I think we merely need two things to reverse this devolution, discipline and self-sustainability. Yung disiplina langya kelangan na natin ng iron fist eh. Pero dapat naman iron fist na credible. We need to be able to follow the rules, at wala ako pakialam kung tindera ka o presidente. Hindi dapat natin sinisisi ang gobyerno yung tayong mga mamamayan may diperensya din naman. May disiplina naman tayo eh, bakit sa ibang bansa nasusunod naman natin ang batas.
Yung second is self-sustainability. We were the number one exporter of rice before, ngayon anlaki ng import natin. Kung sa pagkain lang eh di na masustentuhan ng Pilipinas ang sarili niya asa ka pang magkaroon ng mabuting kinabukasan. Dapat magfocus sa development agriculture, pati sa fish culture. Pero dapat in way din na di mauubos resources natin. Yung first world countries na yan inuna naman talaga nila yung agri eh... hindi dapat tayo tatalon sa industrialization.
So yun lang opinyon ko dito. Kelangan natin yan para i-reverse yung degrade ng Pilipinas. ^^

it is due to the inefficiency of our political leaders. Gone are the days when our elected leaders were brilliant and credible. Today, in our political arena, those who get elected are those who have the money, popularity and political monopoly (read: dynasty). They get elected not because of their efficiency but because of their affluence and influence. An efficient leader is someone who does a given task conscientiously.

galing kay JERRY R. OBLEPIAS, daily inquirer
http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/letterstotheeditor/view/20080924-162489/Why-we-are-a-poor-country

oo nga may diperensya din nga mga tao, pero yung deterioration ng pinas eh mostly fault ng goverment.

yung mga elites na nasa pwesto eh para na ngayong gangs, at ang government ang instrument nila to stay in power and to further oppress the people. ang kasalanan naman natin eh hinhayaan natin to na mangyari.

hanggat walang total restructure ng sistema dito sa pinas, walang mangyayari.

nice thread..
kung iaasa natin ang future natin sa gobyerno, asa ka pa..
ang daming mgagaling na inventor na masyadong umaasa sa gobyerno kaya walang nangyayari..

but wait, theres an underground group of Filipino creatives, technologist and a revolution is hapening somewhere in the country..
sooner or later this 2010, makikilala natin sila..
watch out..
hehe


Godbless

anyway, another problem in the Philippines for me is that were to delayed in all aspects..

education - same educational system na panahon pa ng mga ninuno natin, obsolete sa panahon ngayon..

delayed paradigm shifting - still nsa industrial age thinking parin tayo, galingan sa skul,mkakuha ng mga medals, humanap ng trabaho, den climb the lader, promote..etc.. eh ang problema information age na ngayon nsa GLOBALIZATION 3.0 na tyo, more on entreprenurial dapat kasi un ang advantage nito..actually patapos na nga information age kasi papasok na tayo sa tinatawag na ECE - energy climate era..

Construction - obsolete building code, kaya delayed tayo sa exposure ng advance building construction techniques and materials kasi ang sinusundan natin code ay panahon pa ng lolo natin na puro hollow blocks pa at wala pa ang mga advance na ito..kya hangga ngayon, nsa conventional constuction parin..

goverment for me is not a problem.. nagiging reactive lang tayo kaya nagiging problema, dapat pro active..take the initiative..huwag goverment dependent but we must stand on our own.. and specially dapat interdependent hindi independent..walang ibang aasahan kung hindi tayo tayo din mga pinoy..

magiging masagana at maunlad ang pilipinas if theres a change in our government, im sure magiging masagana, i wanna be positive, so ang iniisip ko may pagasa ang bansa natin, ayoko na maging part pa ng problem, gusto ko ako ang isa sa maging solusyon. walang imposible

naku, puro negative ang mga tao sa sws survey? kung ganon e baka matuluyan na nga, ayoko na dumagdag sa negative, kung ano ang iniisip ayun ang darating, so if your expecting a hopless country, ayun ang makukuha mo

im a visualizer and a dreamer, pag iniisip ko ay positive at yung mga gusto ko lang, nagiging masaya ang araw araw, its the law of attraction, kung ano ang iniisip mo, ibibigay sayo ng universe or ni god, your attracting what you want. what you expect, is what youll get

kieko wrote:
goverment for me is not a problem.. nagiging reactive lang tayo kaya nagiging problema, dapat pro active..take the initiative..huwag goverment dependent but we must stand on our own.. and specially dapat interdependent hindi independent..walang ibang aasahan kung hindi tayo tayo din mga pinoy..

... government is not a problem? I beg to disagree with you here bro...
how could you say a "corrupt gov't" not a problem? eto challenge sayo, anu bang sangay at departamento ng gobyerno ang walang kurapsyon? san kaman pumunta laganap at harap-harapan yung pangungurap sa gobyerno... rereklamo ka? baka sa kangkungan ka pupulutin...
san ba naging reactive yung pinoy? karamihan ng pinoy di na nagrereklamo, tahimik nlng, naging "pro-active" na nga sa sistema ng kurapsyon sa gobyerno! (pagod na ang pinoy sa kawalang pagbabago sa gobyerno...)
sino ba nagi-initiate ng kurapsyon? yung ordinaryong pinoy ba? di po, yung taga gobyerno po mismo, humihingi ng lagay...
di pwedeng di tayo gov't dependent, kase may responsibilidad ang gobyerno sa lahat ng pilipino... etong gobyerno kase gusto lang sisihin yung tao... hugas kamay...
Halos lahat ng pinoy e independent na, wala ka naman kaseng aasahan sa gobyerno! lahat halos ginagawa na ng ordinaryong pinoy para lang ma-improve yung pamumuhay... karamihan para lang "mabuhay"...
wag nang ibaling yung sisi sa mga tao pre... inutil ba yung gobyerno natin kaya di magampanan yung responsibilidad nya?
yung gobyerno ay may authority, may maraming responsibilidad, at higit sa lahat may power upang magampanan ang lahat ng responsibilidad at mapangalagaan yung kanyang nasasakupan...

agree ako kay silvercrown.

karamihan kasi ng tao ang reaction sa corruption ng officials eh "wag na tayo makigulo jan bahala na si lord"

example yung kakilala ko na barangay treasurer, lalapit yung barangay captain hihingi ng 250k sasabihin project, pero 10k mapupunta sa BIR para walang evidence pag nagsumbong yung treasurer, 10k sa actual project, at 230k ibubulsa na.

di natin pinapansin kasi

1. takot/duwag, ayaw ng gulo
2. bayad/lagay
3. umaasa sa iba o sa diyos

silvercrown wrote:

kieko wrote:
goverment for me is not a problem.. nagiging reactive lang tayo kaya nagiging problema, dapat pro active..take the initiative..huwag goverment dependent but we must stand on our own.. and specially dapat interdependent hindi independent..walang ibang aasahan kung hindi tayo tayo din mga pinoy..

... government is not a problem? I beg to disagree with you here bro...
how could you say a "corrupt gov't" not a problem? eto challenge sayo, anu bang sangay at departamento ng gobyerno ang walang kurapsyon? san kaman pumunta laganap at harap-harapan yung pangungurap sa gobyerno... rereklamo ka? baka sa kangkungan ka pupulutin...
san ba naging reactive yung pinoy? karamihan ng pinoy di na nagrereklamo, tahimik nlng, naging "pro-active" na nga sa sistema ng kurapsyon sa gobyerno! (pagod na ang pinoy sa kawalang pagbabago sa gobyerno...)
sino ba nagi-initiate ng kurapsyon? yung ordinaryong pinoy ba? di po, yung taga gobyerno po mismo, humihingi ng lagay...
di pwedeng di tayo gov't dependent, kase may responsibilidad ang gobyerno sa lahat ng pilipino... etong gobyerno kase gusto lang sisihin yung tao... hugas kamay...
Halos lahat ng pinoy e independent na, wala ka naman kaseng aasahan sa gobyerno! lahat halos ginagawa na ng ordinaryong pinoy para lang ma-improve yung pamumuhay... karamihan para lang "mabuhay"...
wag nang ibaling yung sisi sa mga tao pre... inutil ba yung gobyerno natin kaya di magampanan yung responsibilidad nya?
yung gobyerno ay may authority, may maraming responsibilidad, at higit sa lahat may power upang magampanan ang lahat ng responsibilidad at mapangalagaan yung kanyang nasasakupan...

hi bro..
i get your point and tama lahat ng point mo sa govt. natin..
but u mis understood my point..
well hindi ko sinasabing walang problema sa goverment dahil problema nga lahat nanjan..
what i mean is if we continue to see that the goverment is our solution sa pag angat ng bansa, well for me i think we are seeing it all very wrong..
dahil nanjan na yan problema sa govt. di mo na mbabago yan..kung mababago man matagal at matatagalan..
the answer is not in the goverment, kaya ko sinabi na "hindi ko na problema ang Govt."
i have my own way of contribution to the country, our team have our own way of contribution to our country,
manny pacquiao (alisin molang politica,hehe) contributed big in his way on his world (boxing)
in short, if each one of us pro actively contribute in our own way, own profession, own world (which is architecture and engineering for us) and ignite a revolution (not necessary a war like ung kkk but modern heroes) and not complaining, reacting, depending to our goverment, or instead of just working to other international firms, sa tingin ko bro aangat ang bansa natin..

Our goverments role is to maintain peace and order, and any other more, but to push the Philippines to make a big leap, that's our role,..

hehe..un lang bro ung point ko...
thanks and Godbless

well di naman kumonti ang mahihirap sa pinas pag nananalo si pacquiao.

kung magiging magaling ka sa field mo, ok yun, ikaw at yung field mo aasenso, hindi ang buong bansa.

kung hindi tayo magrereact o magcocomplain o magagalit, at ang gagawin nalang natin eh di pansinin ang problema at ang attitude eh "just do what you are told", wala talaga mangyayari sa pinas.

yes isa sa mga role ng gov is to maintain peace and order. pero di ganun ang nangyayari eh.

goverment is controlled by elites
elites control large companies
large companies control you

Tama mga point niyo... ultimately dapat may pagbabago... malaking malaking pagbabago. Hindi lang sa gobyerno kundi pati sa mamamayan. Ang pinakelangan lang naman eh wag na yung sarili lang iniisip natin. Applicable sa gobyerno, applicable din sa mamamayan. Kelangan iisa yung mentality ng lahat towards progress. Bayanihan ng buong bansa. Yun lang naman eh.

reyknow wrote:well di naman kumonti ang mahihirap sa pinas pag nananalo si pacquiao.

kung magiging magaling ka sa field mo, ok yun, ikaw at yung field mo aasenso, hindi ang buong bansa.

kung hindi tayo magrereact o magcocomplain o magagalit, at ang gagawin nalang natin eh di pansinin ang problema at ang attitude eh "just do what you are told", wala talaga mangyayari sa pinas.

yes isa sa mga role ng gov is to maintain peace and order. pero di ganun ang nangyayari eh.

goverment is controlled by elites
elites control large companies
large companies control you

nice comment bro and very meaningful,

kaso sensya bro im not working for my own success and for my self, im working for God and our country..
un kasi ung namimislook ng mga pinoy, work to earn lagi..
in other countries they work to for their country..
of course, di lahat matutulungan ni pacquiao,
but he has founded businesses which help may Filipinos din for livelihood, and an inspiration to other Filipino boxers to kaya ang dami namamayagpag na mga pinoy ngayon when it comes to boxing and we have to admit, he is a Filipino pride..
i think he contributed well..
and imagine of one of us will have that small contribution, i think pagsasamahan mo ito talagang may pag asa..
im not employed bro, at my age i with my team is founding a design and construction firm and aiming to go global..its hard yes but if this nagclick it will be a big help to other Filipinos to have a source of income.. thats my own way of being proactive instead of reacting again sa mga nangyayari..kahit ano sabihin mo dyan wala ka magagawa..widen ur circle of influence not concern..
heto pa isa eh, many of us are waiting to be spoon feed..naghihintay ng pabahay, ng trabaho from govt. and thats the point, naghihintay..eh puro corupt na nga naghihintay pa kaya walang nangyayari..we must learn how to fish..

well of course, this is a healthy conversation, after all..these are our own humble opinion..no big deal..
Godbless

nahumreigh wrote:Tama mga point niyo... ultimately dapat may pagbabago... malaking malaking pagbabago. Hindi lang sa gobyerno kundi pati sa mamamayan. Ang pinakelangan lang naman eh wag na yung sarili lang iniisip natin. Applicable sa gobyerno, applicable din sa mamamayan. Kelangan iisa yung mentality ng lahat towards progress. Bayanihan ng buong bansa. Yun lang naman eh.

galing..thats the word we need.."bayanihan"

sensya pla mga bro pero i cant help it..
this is my advocacy kasi and ill fight for it.. this is what i do for a living...to open the minds of the Filipino na wala sa gobyerno ang solution, nsa sa atin..
yes our govt. has its own role but sa asenso, it our role..the professionals, the creatives, in short tayo..

thanks and Godbless

God has a wonderful plan for the Philippines!! and i claim it also...
this country will rise up in His time...

never again we will be under the bondage of corruption, poverty, immorality and any negative influences..

not only those who are in authority ang may problema..
but instead of grumbling, we can do our part to be a model citizen of this nation and not be a part of the problem..

especially for the youths like me, its time to make a stand,
we will redeem our generation from the past guilt and mistakes of our forefathers..

its our appointed time..who will make a stand?
tama na, sobra na..
Let Peace reign..Let God.


just sharing my thoughts guys..

keitzkoy wrote:God has a wonderful plan for the Philippines!! and i claim it also...
this country will rise up in His time...

never again we will be under the bondage of corruption, poverty, immorality and any negative influences..

not only those who are in authority ang may problema..
but instead of grumbling, we can do our part to be a model citizen of this nation and not be a part of the problem..

especially for the youths like me, its time to make a stand,
we will redeem our generation from the past guilt and mistakes of our forefathers..

its our appointed time..who will make a stand?
tama na, sobra na..
Let Peace reign..Let God.


just sharing my thoughts guys..

sabi nga ni efren penaflorida..
"i am the change that i dream of, you are the change that you dream of, and together, we are the change that our world (country) needs

@keitzkoy
yep kaya walang revolution na nagyayari kasi umaasa tayo sa diyos o sa iba.

@kieko
ok i see your point. pero tingin ko di mo nakikita kung gaano ka powerful ang gobyerno.

gamitin ko yung example mo na wag tayong maghintay, we have to learn to fish for ourselves.

karamihan na satin di naghihintay sa gobyerno, yung we already fish for ourselves na. pero ang nangyayari eh sa bawat fish na nakukuha mo, 30% nun mapupunta sa gobyerno. pag hindi ka nagbigay ikukulong ka. ganun nangyayari ngayon.

sobrang liit ng sweldo pag sa gov ka nagtabaho, pero puro napakayaman kasi basically kinukuha nila sweldo mo. tska tingin mo ba yung mga elites nagbabayad ng taxes? nope.

opinion ko, if you really want to fix this country, minimize government authority/powers. kahit anong success mo sa field mo laging merong officials na mag paparasite sayo.

keitzkoy wrote:God has a wonderful plan for the Philippines!! and i claim it also...
this country will rise up in His time...

never again we will be under the bondage of corruption, poverty, immorality and any negative influences..

not only those who are in authority ang may problema..
but instead of grumbling, we can do our part to be a model citizen of this nation and not be a part of the problem..

especially for the youths like me, its time to make a stand,
we will redeem our generation from the past guilt and mistakes of our forefathers..

its our appointed time..who will make a stand?
tama na, sobra na..
Let Peace reign..Let God.


just sharing my thoughts guys..

tama! theres a saying nga na be the change you wanna see in the world, start in yourself.. ayus

@sir reyknow
I respect your opinion sir.
but I think mas walang mangyayari if may hatred against the government.

what i'm just saying is it's my vision for our country, what i'm believing to happen.

and I know iba-iba pananaw natin, so there's no room for arguement,
let's just share ideas and thoughts, kung mabigat para sa iba, well pananaw niya yun...

peace out..

isa pang analogy o example:

may isang malaking apoy, nasa gilid malapit nang sunugin bahay mo.

yung isa nagdasal nalang sa diyos na wag madamay bahay nya.
yung isa naghanap pa sa kabilang bayan ng bumbero.
yung isa nawalan ng pagasa naghintay nalang masunog yung bahay para ibenta yung uling abo at kahoy.

yung huli kumuha ng tubig pinatay yung sunog.

mga pilipino ngayon parang yung naunang 3. kung nasa panahon tayo ngayon ni marcos siguro wala pa rin nagbabago.

@keitzkoy

what you believe and whats actually happening are 2 diff things.

kung walang nagalit nung panahon ni marcos, nasa martial law parin tayo.
kung umasa tayo na ang (example)agricultural sector eh magtataboy sa corruption nung panahon ni marcos, nasa martial law parin tayo.
kung umasa lang tayo sa diyos, nasa martial law parin tayo.

mga galit at proactive na tao ang nagtaboy ng martial law. wala nga tayo sa martial law ngayon pero sa level ng corruption ngayon, halos nandun na o papunta na tayo dun.

so what are you proposing sir na gawin natin?

if we make another people power, mabuti pa lahat ng corrupt na nakaupo patanggal na natin.. but mahirap gawin, and what i imagine is clash between the government and the people..

so i'll make it clear sir that i'm not siding sa govt, neither those who want to throw the govt away..i'm standing between the line, crying out "di na ba kayo nagsawa? paulit-ulit nalang tayo..."

what i'm dreaming is a birth of new leaders, and sino yun? we'll take the stand as a youth, we'll be the next generation, we'll be the one to take over the present sectors, govt. or private..and that's how we'll make a difference..

that's my dream, vision and hope sa future ng bansa natin..
and 'umasa sa Diyos', yeah that's what is all about for me..

yes isang malaking revolution. kung tatanggalin lahat dahil corrupt, why not?

kung di ka magiging part ng solution, ang nangyayari eh umaasa ka lang sa iba na gawin yun para sayo. nagdadasal naghihintay ng himala.

di ba may kasabihan nga "even a miracle needs a hand" kasi in reality wala naman miracle, tayo gumagawa nun. tska in reality pag nagdadasal tayo sa mga santo sa simbahan, kausap lang natin sarili natin sa tapat ng kahoy at bato.

kung gusto mo talaga maging part ng solution, be aware lang. get mad, get pissed. when the time comes na lahat ng tao eh ganun, dun mangyayari ang pagbabago.

i'm not saying sir na umasa lang at maghintay ng himala,
we can start sa generation natin to make a move,be the change..

nung natapos yung people power may nagbago nga ba talaga,
and after ng pagbabago ulit anu mangyayari?

a lasting change only comes comes from the One who called us to be a nation..

my values:

-respect those who are in authority (mabigat sa iba yun)
-but i do not tolerate yung mga kalokohan nila
-and what i do to be a part of the solution?
-go to God in prayer, a peaceful "rally" for me
-during that time ko sinisigaw lahat ng reklamo ko sa gobyerno
-but not to curse those people

I respect your opinions sir, we all have different values and ideals.
But as for me, unless God is the Builder, the laborers labor in vain..

by the way i'm not a catholic nor a follower of a belief system, it's my personal dealings..

good to have this conversation, it's a healthy one..

good morning na sir,hehe

i'm not saying sir na umasa lang at maghintay ng himala,

pero sabi mo before

God has a wonderful plan for the Philippines!! and i claim it also...
this country will rise up in His time...

nung natapos yung people power may nagbago nga ba talaga,

yes natanggal sa pwesto si marcos. pero dahil naging attitude ng pilipino eh "umasa sa diyos" heto na naman tayo.

this isnt about our values, or our beliefs. im not asking people to list theirs kasi alam ko naman magkakaiba lahat ng tao eh. im saying yung attitude na "umasa sa diyos" ang nagdadala satin sa ganitong situation kasi konti nalang ang gustong maging proactive against our leaders, against the system.

well nasa sa inyo na yan sir..
wala na patutunguhan 'to because we're on the opposite sides of the boat.

regarding my first statement, it's a declaration..

gotta sleep..God bless sir.