A Totally Different Approach with Low Settings

not everyone will go for this style, but we had a french architect who preferred to present this way - in the absence of piranesi, we did super low anti alias settings, almost zero sec bounce, low subdvs etc. but applied with a thin toon line. the result:



IMHO, it does have a certain appeal. but like i said.. not everyone will dig this for a lot of reasons - as an architect myself, i don't mind presenting something like this if i was communicating just the concept.

would be interesting to hear different opinions. advantages of this is: very fast render (almost below 1 min) disadvantages being: not photorealistic (for the purists). thoughts anyone?

I've seen this before.

my thoughts:

I don't really mind if a presentation is not really photographically accurate as long as the concept or design is properly presented to the client. I would actually prefer this over the more photoreal output if only for the rendering speed.

If I was competent enough with doing most of the details of my renders in post, i'd probably be doing these kinds of presentation. My photoshop skills stills needs developing up till now, hence, my preference of doing most of my stuff entirely in 3d.

One of the reasons why most would not prefer this style, is the fact that there are clients who prefer a more real looking output, as opposed to something that is conceptual in feel.

Nevertheless, for concept generation, most specially for those who are not adept with piranesi, or sketch-up. and for times, when we need to rush things up, this is a cool idea to try.

Hope I was able to convey my opinion regarding this technique.

maganda sir parang colored sketch, sa tingin ko sir mas okey sya ginagamit sa exterior kasi mas broad pa yung scope dun in terms of texturing and materials...unlike sa interior medyo mas detailed ang gusto nating makita...mas mukhang realistic mas ok....specially mga architect, ang ganda mag present ng exterior pag mukhang sketch or may pag ka artistic ang gawa ng building....katulad ng water color effect sketch effect...

I think for me this is still a good rendering approach for presentation. Thought different from the usual realistic rendering but it will still provide the exact information of the subject, most architects or interior designer present their design with board material sample that will provide accurate visual for the client unless the rendering need to be posted on magazine that requires comprehensive details of the actual materials...Yes! it does have a certain appleal, as long as it is acceptable to your client, yet in some cases we furnish them the best quality of goods more than they requires probably part of the marketing aspect of business..so far a nice presentation master mushroom...

This one is real good for preliminary approach...For some reason why interior designer & some architects like a kind of non realistic image presentation...in some reason they can easily catch / communicate to the client without anymore question or discussion asking about the materials,colors,texture and ambiance..etc. usually only volume, lines or monochromatic color / gray color especially for preliminary concept design, just to present the work flow / space planning or traffic inside /outside or what ever...pwede to sa mabilisin lang talaga but it's good, di pwede sa maarting cliente.case to case-depende rin nga sa client sir.

This one is nice... para syang conventional way of presentation... very architectural... imho!

Architectural; the bite word for which crowd this style caters to. Self explanatory a yun. Another would be "region"; dito sa pinas they'd go for the realistic renders, in some parts abroad they'd go for the "mano" styles...

I absolutely love the "manual" style perspectives of SU; I'm trying to recall a cgp member stateside (new york ata yun) who excelled in the aforementioned...

Nothing conceptual about this render though; as an architecture student I already see its totality & finality at kung ano ano pang ity..
roamin roamin roamhide....

cloud20 wrote:Architectural; the bite word for which crowd this style caters to. Self explanatory a yun. Another would be "region"; dito sa pinas they'd go for the realistic renders, in some parts abroad they'd go for the "mano" styles...

I absolutely love the "manual" style perspectives of SU; I'm trying to recall a cgp member stateside (new york ata yun) who excelled in the aforementioned...
Nothing conceptual about this render though; as an architecture student I already see its totality & finality at kung ano ano pang ity..
roamin roamin roamhide....

That would be sir arkinet, if i am not mistaken sir...

cloud20 wrote:Architectural; the bite word for which crowd this style caters to. Self explanatory a yun. Another would be "region"; dito sa pinas they'd go for the realistic renders, in some parts abroad they'd go for the "mano" styles...

agree..

one of our team mate (actualy the leader) keep on posterizing (on photoshop) works which are actually good renders..
i cant blame him..he has the artistic eyes more than i do..after all, his edited works are still very presentable and very unique and really catches the attention of the client with passionate presentation..

i think your boss has also that artistic eyes and sees things different..

hehe

Ginagamit ko din minsan ang ganitong method for preliminary presentations para medyo hindi pa kita ang kaluluwa ng design.

OT: Nice avatar I miss that STP album, Pretty Penny FTW!!!

[quote="kieko"][quote="cloud20"]Architectural; the bite word for which crowd this style caters to. Self explanatory a yun. Another would be "region"; dito sa pinas they'd go for the realistic renders, in some parts abroad they'd go for the "mano" styles...

agree..

one of our team mate (actualy the leader) keep on posterizing (on photoshop) works which are actually good renders..
i cant blame him..he has the artistic eyes more than i do..after all, his edited works are still very presentable and very unique and really catches the attention of the client with passionate presentation..

i think your boss has also that artistic eyes and sees things different..

hehe

I don't have a boss... I have an "authority problem"...

thanks for the input guys! appreciate the lively discussion here, hopefully it may be of use for whatever means..

this project won over competitors who actually made those conventional GI rendered walkthroughs. we presented only with a flash based presentation and a series of stills.

the point really is that from an architects'/designers' POV if the design intent / concept is strong, presentation methods do not matter as long as one can communicate the concept properly, be it in this way or the traditional way. of course one may argue that WHO presents it is also a factor. our profession, (designers and 3d artists alike) whether we agree or not, is a communication tool in itself.

and true, not everyone will be receptive to this, clients in general, as they are not design-trained and their sense of aesthetics is quite limited.

but if were to keep a portfolio of my own id rather compile unique sets - including past renders like this one.

check out the starchitects' concepts and how they present them - zaha hadid, gehry et al. though they use 3d - they almost feel sketchy, poor shaders, transparent people.

oh eventually we developed the "photoreal" version of this project, towards the end of the contract though.

so true sir mushroom..

my previous boss from china prefers this kind of presentations over rendered ones..

mas architectural daw ang dating nya..

we used only sketchup for presentations.but rendered images if needed nalang then outsourced it after.

ortzak wrote:so true sir mushroom..

my previous boss from china prefers this kind of presentations over rendered ones..

mas architectural daw ang dating nya..

we used only sketchup for presentations.but rendered images if needed nalang then outsourced it after.

interesting.. incidentally sa shanghai din nakabase ung cliente namin for this yup fully rendered images are reserved mostly for marketing/brochure purposes lang.

cloud20 wrote:I don't have a boss... I have an "authority problem"...

what dear cloud means is siya ang sarili niyang boss.. sa umaga. pag sa gabi, iba na peace uncle

mushroom wrote:

ortzak wrote:so true sir mushroom..

my previous boss from china prefers this kind of presentations over rendered ones..

mas architectural daw ang dating nya..

we used only sketchup for presentations.but rendered images if needed nalang then outsourced it after.

interesting.. incidentally sa shanghai din nakabase ung cliente namin for this yup fully rendered images are reserved mostly for marketing/brochure purposes lang.

yup tama sir pag brochure or big tarps nalang sila request..

kasi sa sketchup na din kame lagay ng details with textures hehe mas mabilis maintindihan ng mga tsinong foreman.

sa cad kasi nagkakamali kami sa chinese character minsan hehe.

I agree with you guys, this is still good approach in presentation, fast output yet effective. Thanks for bringing up this thread sir mushroom.

mushroom wrote:

cloud20 wrote:I don't have a boss... I have an "authority problem"...

what dear cloud means is siya ang sarili niyang boss.. sa umaga. pag sa gabi, iba na peace uncle

Salvaje... What sir Celes means is that SIYA ang boss ko pag gabi hanggang magdamag... Thanks sa time ubermastermushroom...

cloud20 wrote:

mushroom wrote:

cloud20 wrote:I don't have a boss... I have an "authority problem"...

what dear cloud means is siya ang sarili niyang boss.. sa umaga. pag sa gabi, iba na peace uncle

Salvaje... What sir Celes means is that SIYA ang boss ko pag gabi hanggang magdamag... Thanks sa time ubermastermushroom...

OT: hehe di ko ata kamukha ung nasa avatar mo man..

share ur new projects dude!