Is this reasonable and considerate?
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Is this reasonable and considerate?
by lemeuix Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:40 am
Hi CGP Peeps. I just want to share this. I'm having hard time doing my work as a 3D modeler and renderer here in our office. Di ako makapaniwala sa gustong ipagawa sakin ng boss ko. A shopping mall with a condo. And I have to finish it daw in just one day since the following day is his meeting with the client. Is this reasonable and considerate? Actually, ilang beses na akong nag-explain na hindi ganun kadali mag-model and besides ang dami pa niyang revisions while I'm doing it. So I'm asking him to give me atleast 3- days to do it kaso palagi na lang 1 day. Nakakainis na as in. 
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by yaug_03 Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:54 am
Yan ang boss! 
Wag mo na irender,massing na lang,all gray.But I'm more concerned on the design aspect. Galing naman ng boss mo,nakakapagdesign ng within a day.
Wag mo na irender,massing na lang,all gray.But I'm more concerned on the design aspect. Galing naman ng boss mo,nakakapagdesign ng within a day.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by torvicz Wed Aug 29, 2012 3:58 am
Bigyan mo na lang ng sketch dude. 
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by kurdaps! Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:06 am
Your boss doesn't know the world of CG Viz and how it is done.
Torvicz is right, do the sketch if you can otherwise look for another 'boss'.
Torvicz is right, do the sketch if you can otherwise look for another 'boss'.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by arlodesign Wed Aug 29, 2012 5:47 am
sir nasanay na yang boss mo na yan cguro na minsan mo napagbigyan yan na lagi gusto mangyari...you have to choose, to quit or to do it with all your means... if your boss needs you he will understand...
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by aesonck Wed Aug 29, 2012 6:04 am
let him choose another client or cancel the meeting. ,.hi nako boss....grrrr!.
,.hi nako boss....grrrr!.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by tutik Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:25 am
it can be done, but with a help from this line: "learn to manage his expectations." talk him through how and what can be achieved around the given time frame. if possible give him a timeline breakdown so he will have an idea of what to expect. keep him updated of the progress, make sure you also deliver according to the timelines that you set. highlight possible challenges you might encounter along the way so he can think of a way to support you. following instructions is just a fraction of your job. you will discover that work is much more meaningful, most rewarding, if you apply some project management skills on it.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by droo Wed Aug 29, 2012 12:08 pm
tutik wrote:it can be done, but with a help from this line: "learn to manage his expectations." talk him through how and what can be achieved around the given time frame. if possible give him a timeline breakdown so he will have an idea of what to expect. keep him updated of the progress, make sure you also deliver according to the timelines that you set. highlight possible challenges you might encounter along the way so he can think of a way to support you. following instructions is just a fraction of your job. you will discover that work is much more meaningful, most rewarding, if you apply some project management skills on it.
Tama si sir tutik. Gawin mo na lang sir yung pinapagawa niya, tapos ipakita mo sa kaniya na yan lang ang magagawa mo within a day para sa susunod alam niya what you are capable of.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by lemeuix Wed Aug 29, 2012 7:34 pm
Salamat mga Sir. Baka hintayin ko na lang ang December para mag-resign. Medyo mahirap yung situation na ganito since wala ngang idea ang boss sa mga trabaho natin as their 3D modelers/renderers. And kahit anong ipa-intindi ko sa kanila na ganitong output lang ang kaya within the day, eh di pa rin nila ma-gets.
Ayun. Maraming salamat sa pagbigay ng mga payo niyo Sir yaug_03, Sir torvicz, Sir kurdaps!, Sir celes (QUIT talaga ako pero sa December na lang?), Sir arlodesign, Sir aesonck, Sir tutik at Sir droo.
Ayun. Maraming salamat sa pagbigay ng mga payo niyo Sir yaug_03, Sir torvicz, Sir kurdaps!, Sir celes (QUIT talaga ako pero sa December na lang?), Sir arlodesign, Sir aesonck, Sir tutik at Sir droo.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by celes Wed Aug 29, 2012 8:59 pm
lemeuix wrote:And kahit anong ipa-intindi ko sa kanila na ganitong output lang ang kaya within the day, eh di pa rin nila ma-gets.
this is why it is pointless to stay. there are better bosses and jobs out there. good luck!
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by bokkins Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:13 pm
Dapat maexplain mo ng mabuti na ito lang ang kaya sa ganitong nakalaang oras. Kahit overtime, ganito pa rin ang kakayanin.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by arkiangel Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:24 pm
Welcome to our world! 
Tama sila lahat, take it as a challege for the meantime and "charge to experience" and learn from it ..
kapag nawili at di mo na ma-take then "quit"
Tama sila lahat, take it as a challege for the meantime and "charge to experience" and learn from it ..
kapag nawili at di mo na ma-take then "quit"
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by lemeuix Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:49 pm
celes wrote:lemeuix wrote:And kahit anong ipa-intindi ko sa kanila na ganitong output lang ang kaya within the day, eh di pa rin nila ma-gets.
this is why it is pointless to stay. there are better bosses and jobs out there. good luck!
Yup. Got it. Thanks again.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by lemeuix Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:51 pm
bokkins wrote:Dapat maexplain mo ng mabuti na ito lang ang kaya sa ganitong nakalaang oras. Kahit overtime, ganito pa rin ang kakayanin.
Ilang beses ko ng ginawa yan Sir bokkins. Wala pa rin. Useless talaga ang mag-explain paulit-ulit. Ang ayaw ko lang din is yung pag hindi natapos sa akin ang din ang sisi which is so unfair. Anyway, empleyado lang naman kasi ako at sinasahuran naman. Ayun. Thanks ulit Sir bokkins!
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by lemeuix Wed Aug 29, 2012 9:53 pm
arkiangel wrote:Welcome to our world!
Tama sila lahat, take it as a challege for the meantime and "charge to experience" and learn from it ..
kapag nawili at di mo na ma-take then "quit"
Yep. Ganun na nga lang muna siguro. Pero pag di na talaga kaya, like what Sir celes said, quit na. Thanks Sir arkiangel.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by AUSTRIA Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:51 pm
Nangyayari talaga yan at madalas ko rin problema yan sa office ko dati....
Hanggang sa tagal tagalan na solve ko rin ang problema na yan. Kapag sinabi ng amo ko na isang araw
lang yan at ipapasa natin yan bukas gawin mo lang, Ang sinasabi ko ganito. "Sige magpapasa tayo bukas
pero hindi Quality work... Kung gusto mo isang oras bigyan kita eh pero quality ng pang isang oras lang
Kung pang isang araw naman gawin mo rin pero quality ng isang pang araw lang. Parang Militar ba
"Obey First before you Complain". But be sure na kilala ng Amo mo ang kalidad ng works mo kasi baka madali ka
sa huli..Ang sarap pakinggan sa huli ng "Di naman ganito ang banat mo ah" tapos sabay sagot na kung binigyan mo ako
ng oras sana maganda gawa ko. Ako nga minsan sinasadya ko talaga na pangit pakialam ko basta ang importante
alam niya na di talaga yan ang trabaho mo kapag di ka nagmamadali. Kaya ngayon natuto na sila maghihintay na siya
pero dapat huwag mo lang ipahiya si Amo mo kasi mamaya isang linggo mo ginawa pangit pa rin...Patay na hahahahah.
So sana makatulong to sa problema mo. Sometimes we need to realize na pressure din ang mga Boss kaya sa susunod
alam na nila kung papaano ipaliwanag or dumeskarte sa client. God Bless
Hanggang sa tagal tagalan na solve ko rin ang problema na yan. Kapag sinabi ng amo ko na isang araw
lang yan at ipapasa natin yan bukas gawin mo lang, Ang sinasabi ko ganito. "Sige magpapasa tayo bukas
pero hindi Quality work... Kung gusto mo isang oras bigyan kita eh pero quality ng pang isang oras lang
Kung pang isang araw naman gawin mo rin pero quality ng isang pang araw lang. Parang Militar ba
"Obey First before you Complain". But be sure na kilala ng Amo mo ang kalidad ng works mo kasi baka madali ka
sa huli..Ang sarap pakinggan sa huli ng "Di naman ganito ang banat mo ah" tapos sabay sagot na kung binigyan mo ako
ng oras sana maganda gawa ko. Ako nga minsan sinasadya ko talaga na pangit pakialam ko basta ang importante
alam niya na di talaga yan ang trabaho mo kapag di ka nagmamadali. Kaya ngayon natuto na sila maghihintay na siya
pero dapat huwag mo lang ipahiya si Amo mo kasi mamaya isang linggo mo ginawa pangit pa rin...Patay na hahahahah.
So sana makatulong to sa problema mo. Sometimes we need to realize na pressure din ang mga Boss kaya sa susunod
alam na nila kung papaano ipaliwanag or dumeskarte sa client. God Bless
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by arkiangel Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:03 am
lemeuix wrote:bokkins wrote:Dapat maexplain mo ng mabuti na ito lang ang kaya sa ganitong nakalaang oras. Kahit overtime, ganito pa rin ang kakayanin.
Ilang beses ko ng ginawa yan Sir bokkins. Wala pa rin. Useless talaga ang mag-explain paulit-ulit. Ang ayaw ko lang din is yung pag hindi natapos sa akin ang din ang sisi which is so unfair. Anyway, empleyado lang naman kasi ako at sinasahuran naman. Ayun. Thanks ulit Sir bokkins!
Nyahaha!... natumbok mo, yan ang pinakamasakit na ending.. na ikaw pa ang may kasalanan pag hindi na-i-close ung project..ansaya-saya di ba
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by mez Thu Aug 30, 2012 12:29 am
lemeuix wrote:Salamat mga Sir. Baka hintayin ko na lang ang December para mag-resign. Medyo mahirap yung situation na ganito since wala ngang idea ang boss sa mga trabaho natin as their 3D modelers/renderers. And kahit anong ipa-intindi ko sa kanila na ganitong output lang ang kaya within the day, eh di pa rin nila ma-gets.
Ayun. Maraming salamat sa pagbigay ng mga payo niyo Sir yaug_03, Sir torvicz, Sir kurdaps!, Sir celes (QUIT talaga ako pero sa December na lang?), Sir arlodesign, Sir aesonck, Sir tutik at Sir droo.
sayang din ang bonus!
ganyan din talaga ang boss ko, just take their advise bro. kapag di mo na talaga ma handle ang pressure exit plan is the last resort
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by arkiedmund Thu Aug 30, 2012 1:07 am
Sir tutik explained it well, but if all else fails, then it's time to look for another one that would be beneficial to you. Mahirap din yung di ka masaya sa isang trabaho. Stress lang abutin mo nyan, instead na nag eenjoy ka.
Good luck sa magiging decision mo.
Good luck sa magiging decision mo.
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by cloud20 Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:13 am
Sir lemeuix, I've seen your work. And its outstanding. Set up your own studio to cater to Architects & Engineers who do not have the time to do what you excel in. Sa ganoong set-up you can dictate terms & conditions to your hearts content.
If all else fails, go FREELANCE. You'll never look back..
If all else fails, go FREELANCE. You'll never look back..
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by torvicz Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:16 am
cloud20 wrote:Sir lemeuix, I've seen your work. And its outstanding. Set up your own studio to cater to Architects & Engineers who do not have the time to do what you excel in. Sa ganoong set-up you can dictate terms & conditions to your hearts content.
If all else fails, go FREELANCE. You'll never look back..
Full time freelancer ka ba dude cloud?
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by cloud20 Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:18 am
--dude torvicz yup; di ko kaya ang may boss, & to a certain extent officemates. I hate the politics involved. Aside from the fact that I'm socially inept; anti-social (ouch)..torvicz wrote:cloud20 wrote:Sir lemeuix, I've seen your work. And its outstanding. Set up your own studio to cater to Architects & Engineers who do not have the time to do what you excel in. Sa ganoong set-up you can dictate terms & conditions to your hearts content.
If all else fails, go FREELANCE. You'll never look back..
Full time freelancer ka ba dude cloud?
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by torvicz Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:19 am
OT:
for how long na dude cloud?
malakas ba dyan satin?
for how long na dude cloud?
malakas ba dyan satin?
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Re: Is this reasonable and considerate?
by cloud20 Thu Aug 30, 2012 4:24 am
dude torvicz related naman sa topic siguro, pa-arbor mods. About 9+ years na rin akong freelance. With your talent malakas. Sa start lang ang mahirap dahil mageestablish ka ng roster of clients. Sa start ang make or break. If you wow them, you're set.
Pero.. andyan ka na eh, mas mataas pa rin naman sigurado dyan; thinking of going back?
Pero.. andyan ka na eh, mas mataas pa rin naman sigurado dyan; thinking of going back?
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