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Rhino 3D
hi CGPeeps!
I am quite curious of Rhino 3D as a friend from the US mentioned it to me....meron bang training school here sa pinas that offers Rhino 3D lessons ? and what are the pros and cons of Rhino 3D versus 3D Studio Max ? Hope you could pitch in your opinions and suggestions, big big thanks
I am quite curious of Rhino 3D as a friend from the US mentioned it to me....meron bang training school here sa pinas that offers Rhino 3D lessons ? and what are the pros and cons of Rhino 3D versus 3D Studio Max ? Hope you could pitch in your opinions and suggestions, big big thanks
chieo_77- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
Hi Richie. I'm not sure kung meron training school ng rhino 3d dito.
Rhino 3d is a very powerful 3d modeling tool. It uses nurbs kaya ang ganda ng free form construction nito. I tried the old one, medyo natuto naman ako ng konti from its demo. Kaso hindi ko pa kabisado talaga ang pasikot sikot sa paggamit ng nurbs. Nurbs kasi ang gamit nya to make a surface, madaming nurbs, nurbs ay isang klaseng linya na malambot, curvey yung mga nurbs.
I think powerful lang sya in terms of modeling, I dont know kung meron na render ngayon, pero pwede mo export to 3ds if you want.
Rhino 3d is a very powerful 3d modeling tool. It uses nurbs kaya ang ganda ng free form construction nito. I tried the old one, medyo natuto naman ako ng konti from its demo. Kaso hindi ko pa kabisado talaga ang pasikot sikot sa paggamit ng nurbs. Nurbs kasi ang gamit nya to make a surface, madaming nurbs, nurbs ay isang klaseng linya na malambot, curvey yung mga nurbs.
I think powerful lang sya in terms of modeling, I dont know kung meron na render ngayon, pero pwede mo export to 3ds if you want.
Re: Rhino 3D
Rhino daw ginagamit ni Zaha Hadid sa kanyang mga free flowing at parametric designs.
kabumbayan- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
bokkins wrote:Hi Richie. I'm not sure kung meron training school ng rhino 3d dito.
Rhino 3d is a very powerful 3d modeling tool. It uses nurbs kaya ang ganda ng free form construction nito. I tried the old one, medyo natuto naman ako ng konti from its demo. Kaso hindi ko pa kabisado talaga ang pasikot sikot sa paggamit ng nurbs. Nurbs kasi ang gamit nya to make a surface, madaming nurbs, nurbs ay isang klaseng linya na malambot, curvey yung mga nurbs.
I think powerful lang sya in terms of modeling, I dont know kung meron na render ngayon, pero pwede mo export to 3ds if you want.
uy thanks for the helpful info's bokkins at natry mo rin pala siya.....curious lang rin ako what the 3d masters in cgpinoy think of this program..sige ill take note of your insights..many thanks sana marami pa magbigay ng opinions
chieo_77- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
kabumbayan wrote:Rhino daw ginagamit ni Zaha Hadid sa kanyang mga free flowing at parametric designs.
thanks kabumbayan...trivial yan ha....now we know
chieo_77- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
Nasubukan ko din itong rhino 3D. Ang naaalala ko ay, yung GUI nya ay halos kahawig sa CAD, dahil may commanline ito sa ilalim ng window. Sinubukan ko pa ngang mag issue ng LINE command by pressing L on my keybard, and narecognize niya na line command yun.
May rendering capabilities din ito. Di ko lang sya masyadong na explore, kasi 3ds viz 4 na inaaral ko nung time na yun. Sa tingin ko powerful din siya, kung mapag aaralan lang ng mabuti.
Sana nakatulong.
May rendering capabilities din ito. Di ko lang sya masyadong na explore, kasi 3ds viz 4 na inaaral ko nung time na yun. Sa tingin ko powerful din siya, kung mapag aaralan lang ng mabuti.
Sana nakatulong.
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Re: Rhino 3D
kabumbayan wrote:Rhino daw ginagamit ni Zaha Hadid sa kanyang mga free flowing at parametric designs.
No wonder ganun ang output nila. Galing! Made for rhino talaga ang mga gawa ni Zaha. Thanks for this.
Re: Rhino 3D
Rhino is very good. Kung sanay ka sa autocad halos ganon din.. but this one is in 3d. i have tried it and manage to do stuff. pero ewan ko bakit mas gusto ko parin ang SU.
Re: Rhino 3D
This guy is Zaha Hadids Partner dahil sa kanya naging more practical ang models ni Zaha http://www.patrikschumacher.com/
jorgei2style- CGP Apprentice
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Re: Rhino 3D
am a rhino 3d user for five years na , walang training school ng rhino sa pinas, its true zaha hadid staff uses rhino 3d, but remember all of her staff have strong programming background. you cannot do manually in rhino most of her projects, if you dont know anything about programming. i can do scripting in rhino. coz if one can not, you are bound only what any software can do, always remember this guys.
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
and sori to say guys, rhino 3d is more for the intelligent modellers.
and if yuo dont know anything about programming, avoid using rhino.
panay box lang ang magagwa mo, free flowing ba, go back to school and review your geometry before stepping to rhino.
and if yuo dont know anything about programming, avoid using rhino.
panay box lang ang magagwa mo, free flowing ba, go back to school and review your geometry before stepping to rhino.
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
wag kayonh magtaka kung pareho ang interface ng autocad sa rhino,
rhino develop most of autocad's proramming, yan a ng dapat nyong malaman lahat, and wag kayo magtaka kung bakit hanngang ngayun maski may revit na hirap na hirap ang autocad sa curves, hindi ganun kabobo ang makers ng rhino para hawin lahat sa kanila. read rhino's history guys. sabi ng american staff namin dito, autocad sucks, 3d max primitive.
rhino develop most of autocad's proramming, yan a ng dapat nyong malaman lahat, and wag kayo magtaka kung bakit hanngang ngayun maski may revit na hirap na hirap ang autocad sa curves, hindi ganun kabobo ang makers ng rhino para hawin lahat sa kanila. read rhino's history guys. sabi ng american staff namin dito, autocad sucks, 3d max primitive.
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
rhino powerful program, hindi uy, ang liit nga lang ng installation files ng rhino 3d, look at all autodesk products ang laki laki. kung magaling naman ang 3d max at maya, bakit nabili ng autodesk ang copyrights diba. ang rhino up to now nakatindig magisa. because all other 3d softs really sucks. if youre a math intelligent use rhino if not use 3d max.
3d max users sucks
3d max users sucks
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
rhino user din ako. Need mo syang gamitin everyday para matandaan mo ang UI nya kasi counter productive kung sanay ka sa iba. Paiba iba din ako kaya nirereview ko sya. Natuto ako sa manuals lang and yung tutorial models na kasama sa installer. Yung help file din. Nakakapag model na rin ako ng gaya ng kay Zaha Hadid using native rhino without plugins. Kung sanay ka sa polygon modeling you can try t-splines... Kaso pinatay na sya ng Autodesk this December lang inannounce binili na sya ng Autodesk. Isa pang powerful plugin ng rhino yung Grasshopper katulad sya ng parametric modeler sa 3ds max at generative components sa Microstation...Node based ito kaya pampasakit sa ulo. Parang ICE ng XSI Softimage. Marami pang plugins like Vray Rt yes supported na ang rt sa rhino (currently on beta stage), brazil render, thea render, keyshot, fryrender, maxwell (pinakamagandang integration next to thea,vray,fryrender and brazil), at halos lahat na ata ng renderers supported ang .3dm files ng rhino. Rhino's mesh sucks yung nga lang mawawala lahat ng details na ginawa mo sa nurbs pag export at namesh mo na sya kaya you need t-splines and grasshopper for this para maganda ang pagkamesh nya...grasshopper will bake the mesh for exporting. Ang Mcneal at Autodesk ay may matagal nang hidwaan lalo na ngayon binili pa ng Autodesk yung t-splines...wala na ang rhino. Ang Mcneal din nahati may isa pang parang sketchup sa Nurbs na sobrang gaan "Moment of Inspiration| or MOI based sya sa Rhino 3.0 kaso mas gusto ko na ngayon ang Rhino 5.0 may realtime renderer din sya (viewport only), VSR realtime Renderer, tsaka pang architectural "VisualArq"...Kung imamanufacture mo ang models mo Rhino ka na kung hindi naman mas maganda sa modeling ang 3ds max/Zbrush/Modo...tsaka may mga matitinding kalaban din si Rhino like Solidworks, Form Z, Bonzai 3d, Shark Fx, Catia, Alias, Inventor, etc...pero kung rhino 50% autocad look a like na sya kaya konti na lang aaralin mo pagdating sa 3d...mas mabilis sya maghandle ng 3d compare kay sketchup at autocad kaso mabagal sya sa 2d nagfre-freeze ang viewport ko kapag maraming blocks at lines unlike in autocad kahit magpurge ka pa walang effect you need a powerful gpu card for that. Yun lang ang masheshare ko about rhino. Rhino nga pala ang ginamit ko sa pagmodel ng dslr camera na gamit sa saksi wall background at mga programs sa gma mga flying logos...need kasi nung graphic artist ng super high res daw. Umiyak ang pc ko sa pagrender ng walang kantong bilog
vuer12- CGP Apprentice
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Re: Rhino 3D
ciaoriki wrote:rhino powerful program, hindi uy, ang liit nga lang ng installation files ng rhino 3d, look at all autodesk products ang laki laki. kung magaling naman ang 3d max at maya, bakit nabili ng autodesk ang copyrights diba. ang rhino up to now nakatindig magisa. because all other 3d softs really sucks. if youre a math intelligent use rhino if not use 3d max.
3d max users sucks
hehehe..
cloud20- CGP Senior Citizen
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Re: Rhino 3D
really funny ciaoriki
kabumbayan- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
Master CIAORIKI pa sample naman ng output mo using "intelligent modelling" via Rhino..
Hehe..
Hehe..
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Re: Rhino 3D
naborghsoj08 wrote:rhino user din ako. Need mo syang gamitin everyday para matandaan mo ang UI nya kasi counter productive kung sanay ka sa iba. Paiba iba din ako kaya nirereview ko sya. Natuto ako sa manuals lang and yung tutorial models na kasama sa installer. Yung help file din. Nakakapag model na rin ako ng gaya ng kay Zaha Hadid using native rhino without plugins. Kung sanay ka sa polygon modeling you can try t-splines... Kaso pinatay na sya ng Autodesk this December lang inannounce binili na sya ng Autodesk. Isa pang powerful plugin ng rhino yung Grasshopper katulad sya ng parametric modeler sa 3ds max at generative components sa Microstation...Node based ito kaya pampasakit sa ulo. Parang ICE ng XSI Softimage. Marami pang plugins like Vray Rt yes supported na ang rt sa rhino (currently on beta stage), brazil render, thea render, keyshot, fryrender, maxwell (pinakamagandang integration next to thea,vray,fryrender and brazil), at halos lahat na ata ng renderers supported ang .3dm files ng rhino. Rhino's mesh sucks yung nga lang mawawala lahat ng details na ginawa mo sa nurbs pag export at namesh mo na sya kaya you need t-splines and grasshopper for this para maganda ang pagkamesh nya...grasshopper will bake the mesh for exporting. Ang Mcneal at Autodesk ay may matagal nang hidwaan lalo na ngayon binili pa ng Autodesk yung t-splines...wala na ang rhino. Ang Mcneal din nahati may isa pang parang sketchup sa Nurbs na sobrang gaan "Moment of Inspiration| or MOI based sya sa Rhino 3.0 kaso mas gusto ko na ngayon ang Rhino 5.0 may realtime renderer din sya (viewport only), VSR realtime Renderer, tsaka pang architectural "VisualArq"...Kung imamanufacture mo ang models mo Rhino ka na kung hindi naman mas maganda sa modeling ang 3ds max/Zbrush/Modo...tsaka may mga matitinding kalaban din si Rhino like Solidworks, Form Z, Bonzai 3d, Shark Fx, Catia, Alias, Inventor, etc...pero kung rhino 50% autocad look a like na sya kaya konti na lang aaralin mo pagdating sa 3d...mas mabilis sya maghandle ng 3d compare kay sketchup at autocad kaso mabagal sya sa 2d nagfre-freeze ang viewport ko kapag maraming blocks at lines unlike in autocad kahit magpurge ka pa walang effect you need a powerful gpu card for that. Yun lang ang masheshare ko about rhino. Rhino nga pala ang ginamit ko sa pagmodel ng dslr camera na gamit sa saksi wall background at mga programs sa gma mga flying logos...need kasi nung graphic artist ng super high res daw. Umiyak ang pc ko sa pagrender ng walang kantong bilog
very good info, thanks for sharing dude!
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Re: Rhino 3D
hehehe 3rd year college pa lang ako gumagamit na ako ng rhino eh...oh ha advance sa mga classmate ko. kaya di ako bias magbigay ng info kasi nagtry ako ng iba't ibang software bago ako nagsettle. Hindi totoong di mo kayang magmodel sa rhino kapag di ka marunong ng programming kaya na yun ng sweep, loft, revolve, cage editing, history etc kung nurbs. Kanya kanyang diskarte na yan. Tsaka may readily available downloads na ng rhino scripts na shineshare sa community kaya you don't need to worry. Tsaka grasshopper na talaga ang nagdadala ngayon sa rhino parametric modeling...pwede din yung native rhnoyung Armadillo another great plugin, Rhino Parametrics, Rhiknowbot, paneling Tools, Rhino Cam, Rhno art, Rhino jewel...hay walang katapusan hahaha kung madaming ruby scripts at plugins for sketchup ganun din si rhino hehehe....ito naman si kuya kung maka sucks wagas.
Maganda nga din kay rhino ay maliit lang ang installation file. kaya nga lang kung sa visualization ka nakalinya mas ok ang ibang 3d softwares pero kung sa manufacturing like jewelry design, furniture design, naval architecture, cam, etc...rhino ka na. kung paliitan din lang usapan ay Blender na. Ang blender ang pinakakumpleto sa lahat, modeler, renderer, game engine, animation, post processing etc. Nag-update na ang blender at maganda na ang ui nya parang Cinema 4d at Luxology Modo may cycles na sya, unbiased gpu renderer developed by man behind octane render and lux render but this time cycles is free and will support both cuda and opencl.
Maganda nga din kay rhino ay maliit lang ang installation file. kaya nga lang kung sa visualization ka nakalinya mas ok ang ibang 3d softwares pero kung sa manufacturing like jewelry design, furniture design, naval architecture, cam, etc...rhino ka na. kung paliitan din lang usapan ay Blender na. Ang blender ang pinakakumpleto sa lahat, modeler, renderer, game engine, animation, post processing etc. Nag-update na ang blender at maganda na ang ui nya parang Cinema 4d at Luxology Modo may cycles na sya, unbiased gpu renderer developed by man behind octane render and lux render but this time cycles is free and will support both cuda and opencl.
vuer12- CGP Apprentice
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Re: Rhino 3D
kaya nga ang sabi ko, if one cant do programming, you are bounded to what only a software can do, youre actions are still limited.
i write a script, for the framework, run the script, given the parameters, thats it.
scripting is a step further in modelling. i dont see a diferrence between a 3d done manually and a dwg done by hand. you make the framework and let the computer design for you. like bentley it is a false parametric. parametric or generative modeling becomes one, only if it uses artificial intelligence. so if one has to use a computer, galingan nyo na rin guys. generative modelling are reserved only for not the commoners.
i write a script, for the framework, run the script, given the parameters, thats it.
scripting is a step further in modelling. i dont see a diferrence between a 3d done manually and a dwg done by hand. you make the framework and let the computer design for you. like bentley it is a false parametric. parametric or generative modeling becomes one, only if it uses artificial intelligence. so if one has to use a computer, galingan nyo na rin guys. generative modelling are reserved only for not the commoners.
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
mmm, maglabas man ako ng output is not the issue, the issue is the way of doing things. what about doing a million triangle surface in a fixed bound of space, which no surface is intersecting. or floor plan generator, given the archl program, limits, codes and etc.
plugins magdownload ka man kung hindi rin naiintidihan wala rin. kung camera lang ang imo-model, marami dyan sa internet, dont sate time making those. hindi na titignan ng tao yan. dont do senseless stuff.
plugins magdownload ka man kung hindi rin naiintidihan wala rin. kung camera lang ang imo-model, marami dyan sa internet, dont sate time making those. hindi na titignan ng tao yan. dont do senseless stuff.
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
grasshopper ginawa yan sa hindi marunong mag script, alam mo naman si david rutten maunawain sa mga taong mahihina ang ulo.
ciaoriki- CGP Newbie
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Re: Rhino 3D
I say put up or shut up.
cloud20- CGP Senior Citizen
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Re: Rhino 3D
@ciaoriki - suck pala ko? 3dsmax user ako eh... you could browse for my output here.. how about yours?
Re: Rhino 3D
Uy maganda to. I like ciaoriki's ideas, kaso puro negative. Any suggestions that you want to share with us? Why so mad about the discussion? We hope that we get something from this.
Any good thing in mind ciaoriki? A concrete non-floating idea to share?
Any good thing in mind ciaoriki? A concrete non-floating idea to share?
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