Show Me Your Rig

First topic message reminder :

post your OWN RIGS here.... low-end or high-end, the most important is, you are the owner.

LWF wrote:actually that is not the case in our firm, or other firms i haved worked with, the ratio of employees to PC's is 1 employee is to 3 PC's (sometimes more). the other PC's run as render slaves so we do not pay for software licenses (free render node licenses) so your math of "1 workstation = 1 employee, and 2 workstations = 2 employees" is actually not correct in all cases. what I meant when I said that 2 cheaper wokstations is usually (not all the time) better than 1 faster worstation is that in the end, even if it is being used only by one person, it still gives you more render power for the same cost.

lastly chill out, why u mad bro?

not mad just trying to urgue the point you talking about, not very
clear to me, it looks to me that you conflict some of the things you
told earlier. most of the firms i worked on, we had 1 pc for every
employee, and a render farm.

new year naman kaya love each other...

for lwf and oby:

in our current setup we have 4 pcs/employee. this means once natapos na ang editing for 1 scene, it is thrown straight into one of the pcs/servers for rendering, then move on to the next scene. or DR to make things faster. much faster kung idle naman ung pcs. for ex kung 4 kami then we have 12 effective machines for DR.

as opposed to 1 pc - 1 employee, no matter how fast that rig is, you still end up waiting, hence lost production time. kung 4 kami, no way to do DR because everyone is using their individual editing PCs. as far as i know the topic here is individual productivity, of course more employees = more productive but like lwf mentioned, that's an additional headcount/salary to contend with.

our ideal setup is we have 1 really fast rig for editing, and lower specs for the farms.

2 months old pc, after my 1st gen i7 950, ito po ang aking bagong setup, purchased and assembled by myself.
-i7 3770
-Asrock z77 extreme 4
-Powercolor HD 7770
-FSP Aurum gold 600w
-G.skill Sniper 1600mhz 16gb
-WD caviar black
-Antec Kuhler h2O 620
-Aerocool Xpredator x1

Hi everyone! COOL rigs...!
Somebody from my FB friends requested me to post this here,so here it is. Thanks for viewing...

Specs:
My new daily companion... )))))-

-Dual Intel Xeon E5-2687W Romley 3.1 GHz Eight-Core 20MB L3 Cache
-128 GB RAM Samsung DDR3-1600
-NVIDIA Quadro K5000 4 GB 256-bit Video Card
-Dual Asus VK278Q Black 27" 1920x1080 2ms Full HD HDMI LED BackLight LCD Monitor
-480GB Mushkin Enhanced MKNSSDCR480GB-DX7 2.5" SATA III 7mm SSD -2TB Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6 HDD
-Supermicro X9DAI-O LGA2011 Extended ATX Server Motherboard
-Dual Asetek 570 LX Exreme Liquid CPU Cooler
-Razer Lycosa Mirror Edition Keyboard
-Razer DeathAdder 3500 Gaming Mouse
-Asus BW-12B1ST 12X SATA Blu-ray Internal Writer Drive
-SILVERSTONE ST1500 1500W Power Supply..
-Old mouse-Cyborg RAT 9





Old Mouse

ayun oh! pinost na yung bago!

parang transformer yung mouse mo bro!, hehehehe

whey09 wrote:ayun oh! pinost na yung bago!

parang transformer yung mouse mo bro!, hehehehe

Salamat Whey!Hindi recommended yang mouse na yan. Daming problema sa signal kse wireless. Ok lang siguro yung RAT 7 infection nila na version. ;-)

^^^ beast

Wow 128 gig!

ayos! 128gig ram 16cores 32threads,

grabe ito ba yung 16 cores with 32 threads? nagbabalak rin office namin kso ang mahal. pati ano render set up mo dyan sir? let me know sir asap. ty yung quotation sakin na halos ganyan set up eh nasa $15k sgd.

HP Z820 Workstation 1
HP Single Unit Packaging 1
HP Z820 1125W 90% Efficient Chassis 1
HP Z820 Country Kit 1
Windows 7 Professional 64bit OS 1
Intel Xeon E5-2650 2.00Ghz 20MB 1600 8C 1st CPU 1
Intel Xeon E5-2650 2.00Ghz 20MB 1600 8C 2nd CPU 1
128GB DDR3-1600 (16x8GB) 2CPU Reg RAM 1
256GB SATA 1st Solid State Drive 1
1TB 7200 RPM SATA 2nd Hard Drive 1
NVIDIA Quadro 5000 2.5GB Graphics 1
NVIDIA Quadro 5000 2.5GB 2nd Graphics 1
HP USB Keyboard 1
HP USB Optical Scroll Mouse 1
16X SuperMulti DVDRW SATA 1st ODD 1
HP 3/3/3 Warranty 1
HP Dual Processor Air Cooling Kit 1
No Factory OS Recovery Media 1

$15,500

Thanks guys!
@herald- yes its 16cores with 32threads. Sir ano pong ibig nyo sabihin about render setup??Are you asking po ba kung ano ang render settings?
Nasa ganyan din po yung price nito sir yun nga lang, hindi naka SLI like what you have in the quotation. Medyo pricey talaga ang HP dahil sa mga warranty at binabayaran mo din yung mga other services nila. Itong sa akin sir customized at ako ang nag specify kaya medyo nakatipid.
Goodluck sir sa upcoming machine nyo.!

Mini render farm ko. Laptop for on the go projects.

@ architecthura, sir tama anong render settings nyo dun? tama pwedeng dina sli yun para maging mura sya. hehe salamat sir!

tindi talaga ng workstation mo bossingarchitectura.. same na same kayu ng spec ni BB3 lamang pa kayu ng memory.........

ang galing ng dynamic memory eh 80 gig hehehee...

@architektura - Drooling, sarap amg render nyan!!!!

Just an opinion. I think investing in GPU power instead of CPU is far more better in terms of fast rendering. Xeon processors are so ridiculously expensive let alone get 2 of it. Plus you really don't need to maximize ram sizes... 24gb should be sufficient enough if you want it high. Personally, I prefer what the guy with a laptop and 3 clone render nodes did. Still the same output and time rate efficiency. But I dont mean to make you guys feel bad about your investment. Bottomline, its your money or company's money, Im just saying my opinion.

Are you referring to my setup ronski_g?
Yep those render nodes are cheap. Below 20k each.
Ivy I7 with 8-16gb ram and no gfx cards. In two years I'll change again my render nodes and expect to spend 20k each again for faster, newer render nodes.

I do envy those with super workstations but I can't afford them.
500000 pesos for dual cpu setup is a lot of money out of my own pocket.
If I had the money I would they look really cool.

Yup Im refering to you man... Even if I have the money Id still settle up for less... And besides, GPU na ang mabilis ngyon not CPU, its all over the web. As for your rigs, just try to add some more if u can in the future, no reason to change them... the more nodes the more efficient itll become. That beats any expensive setups... lol

ronski_g wrote:Just an opinion. I think investing in GPU power instead of CPU is far more better in terms of fast rendering. Xeon processors are so ridiculously expensive let alone get 2 of it. Plus you really don't need to maximize ram sizes... 24gb should be sufficient enough if you want it high. Personally, I prefer what the guy with a laptop and 3 clone render nodes did. Still the same output and time rate efficiency. But I dont mean to make you guys feel bad about your investment. Bottomline, its your money or company's money, Im just saying my opinion.

Hi Ronski- I assumed you are denoting to my rig. It seems your telling me(or other artists like Peter Guthrie, Bendrant Benoit, Walid Layouni and other big design/viz company) that I,or we made a ridiculously wrong decision going into this kind of setup. Could you enlighten me or share us some links that could explain that we should be investing in GPU power instead of CPU, as you stated its "far more better in terms of fast rendering". I am very interested. I'm hoping its the same workflow,rendering engine, and primary software.
I would like to agree about the Ram size and honestly,I haven't done a scene that needs more than 30GB but, still its good to have it.Just in case or for the what if s. This is a good example. https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.205735666165939.50774.151672278238945&type=3
After all, ram is significantly less expensive than Video cards, so I don't mind.

I don't feel bad at all about my decisions or the company's investment. Some of the partners were glad that I even save them a lot of the allocated budget as they are expecting to spend more than what we have at the moment. I don't want to go further than this as we are just starting to build the office,maybe someday if we are blessed with more projects.

@Herald-Rendering was set to medium. IR + LC. Thanks.

GPU rendering is very promising, maybe in the near future, open CL, Cuda cores ang nakapag palakas sa GPU para gamitin sa rendering, exciting ang future nito sa 3d world pero it takes some time na maka fully adopt ito kaya cpu parin ang best at recommended for rendering, cpu is also evolving, ngayon quad core is just ordinary dahil may 6 core na kaya i think mahihirapan ang gpu na talunin ito sa 3d world. but who knows everything is possible, the bottom line is maganda ito, lahat tayo makikinabang sa kung sino man ang mas mag eevolve, pero kung ako mas ideal ang sa cpu ka mag invest, the more cores the better jan papunta ang future ng cpu processor, at lahat kasi kayang gawin ng cpu, rendering ,os, etc, ang gpu ginawa ito para sa 3d & games, pero pag ginamit mo na ito sa ibang load, mabagal na. sana lang maka imbento sila ng combine cpu at gpu rendering to make it more faster and have a better quality

My dear Jeff, I simply put up an opinion which doesn't suppose to ruffle any feathers from you. You even don't need too mention any big names to simply justify your beliefs. (Well I could simply say, how about the hundred more artists who can produce even better than you which has a lesser strong rig than yours, think about it) I dont have a doubt too that even for personal use, you will probably buy the exact same thing, maybe even more.

About the ram, who cares, maximize it for all you want. Lets just hope one of these days you can even reach a 60g's scene to at least get rid the over buying ram guilt trip that we did. (jus' kidding).

Then about the GPU rendering, I admit that I am not an expert on this matter yet but based upon the numerous claims I read and watched over the net (you can look it over which im sure you had), they say its the way to go.

Bottomline, Im just not a fan of expensive processors because the difference in speed is just not that significant. Instead of having few buckets which cost more, why not have more buckets which cost less - plus you have the benefit of more PC.

Perfect example would be Archithekthura's 32buckets vs Learn3d's 32 buckets (if my math is correct-3pc/8buckets ea. + 1 laptop/8bucket = 32). Difference is the huge price gaps - maybe around 85k php vs 500k php.

awwwww.....

my share on this naman if my boss will fund my workstation... why not go for xeon based setup... (makaramdam naman ng 30+cores) lalo na kung still images lang ang project, nakakatamad mag on ng distributed rendering kada pc, pero kung may animation project with 500k budget id go for 3930 12 core cpu x 6 pcs..regarding memory for me,
kung kaya lang ng pc ko mag 60gb, gagawin ko agad eh (and kung my funds)

kinakapos na kasi ako sa 16gb while simulating water in realflow, hindi ka makakalagpas sa 1-2 million particles and 3-5 million rfmesh sa max pag 16 gb lang and memory... pero siguro pag for rendering vray i doubt na makalagpas ka ng 30 gig, ilang poly na kaya ang 30 gig mem sa max,

ronski_g wrote:Yup Im refering to you man... Even if I have the money Id still settle up for less... And besides, GPU na ang mabilis ngyon not CPU, its all over the web. As for your rigs, just try to add some more if u can in the future, no reason to change them... the more nodes the more efficient itll become. That beats any expensive setups... lol

I used to have quadcore rendernodes. Super lakas sa kuryente. Grabe naman kasi electric bills sa Philippines compared sa ibang bansa ang mahal dito.
Some statistics on my setup measured by a power meter sa outlet

core I7 3770
Idle 38-40 watts
Load 120 watts

Previous quad q6600
Idle 75-80 watts
load 130-140 watts

Core I7 3770 is nearly 2 times faster than my previous quad. Temps are also lower. Efficiency is very good. I'm trying to lower my electric bills so medyo OC about efficiency. I only turn on the rendernodes when I need them.

I haven't invested in gpu rendering yet. I do own a license of Octane render but I'm waiting for it to mature and include render buffers and passes before I could use it in my production. Pero ok ang bruteforce unbiased renderer nito.

crayzard wrote:awwwww.....

my share on this naman if my boss will fund my workstation... why not go for xeon based setup... (makaramdam naman ng 30+cores) lalo na kung still images lang ang project, nakakatamad mag on ng distributed rendering kada pc, pero kung may animation project with 500k budget id go for 3930 12 core cpu x 6 pcs..regarding memory for me, kung kaya lang ng pc ko mag 60, gagawin ko agad eh (and kung my funds) kinapos na kasi ako sa 16gb while simulating water in realflow.. hindi ka makakalagpas sa 1-2 million particles and 3-5 million rfmesh sa max pag 16 gb lang and memory... pero siguro pag for rendering vray i doubt na makalagpas ka ng 30 gig, ilang poly na kaya ang 30 gig mem sa max,

Makiki-off topic muna ako:
Hi sir Cray! Speaking from experience ha, now alam ko na kung anong instances lang tatakaw ng ram ang isang scene.

Pero teka, puro kayo off topic, ronski_g, learn3d, oby20, crayzard. Show me your rig ang thread na ito, kung gusto niyo discuss kung practical ba gumastos sa rigs eh gawa kayo ng separate topic. ok ba mga pare?

First and last warning.

My dear Jeff, I simply put up an opinion which doesn't suppose to ruffle any feathers from you.

My dear Ronald, no, you didn't annoyed me at all. I don't get easily tick with this kind of conversation. I'm just asking you to give me some links to back up your theory as you mentioned "its all over the web",but it seems your having hard time doing it so.

You even don't need too mention any big names to simply justify your beliefs.

It's not a belief, its a fact and a lot of people are using it.I'm no expert like you so I go with the flow. I think its smart thing to do especially if your not knowledgeable(like me) and your going to spend that amount of money.Same set up as HPZ800 series or Dell7500 series but less expensive
and better specs.

(Well I could simply say, how about the hundred more artists who can produce even better than you which has a lesser
strong rig than yours, think about it)

I don't have to think about it, i know my place in this world and know where to stand but,do you? Think about it...
Well, its good to know only hundreds of them(i thought its more than that)but how about you?I'll simply say,thousands? Think about it again... Not getting any younger ei?. (just kidding)lol!

About the ram, who cares, maximize it for all you want. Lets just hope one of these days you can even reach a
60g's scene to at least get rid the over buying ram guilt trip that we did. (jus' kidding).

I do care and will definitely use it by all means.

Then about the GPU rendering, I admit that I am not an expert on this matter yet but based upon the numerous
claims I read and watched over the net (you can look it over which im sure you had), they say its the way to go.

Now you admit you're not an expert..but hold on,, NOT YET...I'll wait and see when you become one. Katakot takot cguro na insulto ang aabutin namin sayo.I thought I found an expert who can help me or a lot of people yun pala, he just "read and watched over the net" and no real experience.
I'm just hoping bro you don't jump off the bridge to solve your problems cause somebody say, "its the way to go".

Bottomline, I'm just not a fan of expensive processors because the difference in speed is just not that significant.
Instead of having few buckets which cost more, why not have more buckets which cost less - plus you have the benefit of more PC.

So, saan na napunta yung usapang "GPU na ang mabilis ngyon not CPU"? Still waiting for you to send me some links for comparison. Again,same workflow,rendering engine,and primary software.You can take your time but i hope its not in 3 years or so...

I rest my case and apologies sir Ed and Admin for a lengthy discussion.

@ronski- if you have more issues, feel free to send me a personal message. Like what the admin had mentioned,this is not the place for us to discuss this. thank you.